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Johny 11-08-2010 10:39 PM

Special Editions 2010 - origins of the live songs
 
Hi all,
I'd like to compile all the information and guessing on when and where the particular songs were played. I hope you can help me.
Here is a list of what I have, some are my tips, some are tips from wikipedia. Yellow songs are the ones I need help with, the red ones I have no clue of where and when. I'll update the list based on your tips and the discussion.

The list:
Bon Jovi (the album)
10. Runaway - 1985-04-28 Tokyo
11. Roulette - BBC Friday Rock Show
12. Breakout - 1984-08-11 Super Rock '84, Tokyo
13. Get Ready - 1985-04-28 Tokyo

7800° Fahrenheit
11. In And Out Of Love - intro 1986 Japan, the rest 1985-04-28 Tokyo
12. Only Lonely - soundcheck, most likely 1986
13. Tokyo Road - most likely 1985

Slippery When Wet
11. You Give Love A Bad Name - maybe 1993?
12. Livin' On A Prayer - 2008-07-12 Central Park, NYC
13. Wanted Dead Or Alive (acoustic) - maybe 1992 promo tour

New Jersey
13. Blood On Blood - most likely European leg of the tour - 1989-12-??
14. Born To Be My Baby - 1988-12-02 Glasgow (up to solo)

Keep The Faith
13. Keep The Faith - most likely 1995
14. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead - most likely 1992/1993

These Days
13. This Ain't A Love Song - 1995-05-27 Bremen
14. Diamond Ring - 1995-05-23 Milan

Crush
13. It's My Life- most likely 2007 - 2008
14. Just Older - most likely 2008
15. Captain Crash & The Beauty Queen From Mars- most likely 2007 - 2008

Bounce
13. The Distance - 2002 promo tour
14. Joey - soundcheck
15. Hook Me Up - 2002-08-23 Hammerstein Ballrom, NYC
16. Bounce

Have A Nice Day
13. Have A Nice Day
14. Last Man Standing
15. Story Of My Life
16. Who Says You Can't Go Home (duet; feat. Jenniffer Nettles) 2006-02-14 Nashville

Lost Highway
13. Lost Highway
14. We Got It Going On - 2008-07-12 Central Park, NYC
15. Any Other Day- most likely 2008-07/06-??
16. I Love This Town

The Circle
13. We Weren't Born to Follow - 2010-02-27/26 Anaheim
14. When We Were Beautiful - 2010-02-27/26 Anaheim
15. Superman Tonight - 2010-02-27/26 Anaheim
16. Love's the Only Rule - 2010-02-27/26 Anaheim

Walleris 11-08-2010 10:45 PM

We Got It Goin On is also from Central Park :) 100%

TwinFan 11-09-2010 12:23 AM

KTF is definitely from the 95-96 era.
IML and Captain Crash are from the Lost Highway Tour definitely. Maybe even Just Older too. What a ripoff.
Hook Me Up is definitely from Hammerstein Ballroom. 2002-08-23 is the date.
I remember hearing that The Circle tracks are all from Anaheim. 2010-02-26/27
I also remember hearing that Blood on Blood is from Wembley 1989.
The Distance sounds like either a soundchek or a promo show.
Joey is a soundcheck.
Any Other Day is from near the end of the Lost Highway Tour, as there isn't a Richie solo, which they retardedly stopped including in June.

As for the others, I'm not sure. I really want to know where Story Of My Life is from with the Hugh mistake. And ISWID, by far the best version I've found. And the EXACT date of KTF.

Pstmatt 11-09-2010 01:14 AM

I was severly dissappointed in the SP's. Basically we were lied to, these songs are not all from the era of each album, not even close! I am convinced the reason early on in the "circle" tour they played "Roulette", "Shot Through The Heart" and other early tracks is so they could potentially get a good version to use on the SP's and NOT use an actual "From The Era" live recording. After the SP's were realeased they basically stopped playing the early songs on tour.

Also, did you download the extra tracks from the "Vault". I did! How about this...after the song download edthe song title included the year of recording, and most were not even close to from "The Era"! IBTFY was this..."I'll Be There For You/2001", that's how it appeared! "Raise Your Hands/2005". I love this band, but it was a flat out lie.

This is probably old news to most of you however.

Johny 11-09-2010 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1024914)
We Got It Goin On is also from Central Park :) 100%

Thanks. What makes you think so? :) not that I don't believe you I just don't want to listen to it ;)

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024943)
KTF is definitely from the 95-96 era.

Yep, I know. It is because of the wah wah Richie uses.

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024943)
IML and Captain Crash are from the Lost Highway Tour definitely.

Definitely? I can only hear that Jon doesn't sound like in 2000/2001

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024943)
Maybe even Just Older too. What a ripoff.

Just Older is 2006 - listen to what Jon says at the beginning and then count :D

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024943)
Hook Me Up is definitely from Hammerstein Ballroom. 2002-08-23 is the date.

I know this date but I remember Seb saying something that there was another show there from which this version actually is. I don't remember it correctly

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024943)
I remember hearing that The Circle tracks are all from Anaheim. 2010-02-26/27

Ok, do you know who said it? I think I can't compare them. Maybe youtube might help me.

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024943)
I also remember hearing that Blood on Blood is from Wembley 1989.

That's nonsense. They did not play any Wembley venue in 1989. They didn't play UK in 1989 at all apart from the Milton Keynes Festival on 1989-08-19

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024943)
The Distance sounds like either a soundchek or a promo show.
Joey is a soundcheck.

Thanks. I didn't check them properly.

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024943)
Any Other Day is from near the end of the Lost Highway Tour, as there isn't a Richie solo, which they retardedly stopped including in June.

I'll try to compare it with what I have. Unfortunatly, there isn't much to concentrate on in the songs from recent years. They don't make them any special or if they do, it is always the same every show.

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024943)
As for the others, I'm not sure. I really want to know where Story Of My Life is from with the Hugh mistake. And ISWID, by far the best version I've found. And the EXACT date of KTF.

Actually, it wasn't a mistake. His string broke.
I agree on ISWID, it sounds fresh and entertaining. Nothing you can say about it now. It even sounds like from early KTF days to me, according to Jon's intro but none of my versions agree. I've listened to some live versions of this song and I must say that eg the one from Rotterdam 1993-04-23 is really cool. It sounded worse even in 1995.

Thanks for you help. I'll change the first post later.

TwinFan 11-09-2010 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1024959)
Definitely? I can only hear that Jon doesn't sound like in 2000/2001

Haven't listened to these in a while, and Captain Crash does sound more like HAND tour. IML is definitely LH Tour, because the end of the solo is a bit different, which he started doing on that tour.

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Just Older is 2006 - listen to what Jon says at the beginning and then count :D
"24 years later, and the same smile on my face..."
1984+24=2008

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I know this date but I remember Seb saying something that there was another show there from which this version actually is. I don't remember it correctly
Same version musically. But the speech at the beginning of this version and the version on the record are different.
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Ok, do you know who said it? I think I can't compare them. Maybe youtube might help me.
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8204589

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That's nonsense. They did not play any Wembley venue in 1989. They didn't play UK in 1989 at all apart from the Milton Keynes Festival on 1989-08-19
Whoops. I just checked, and it must be from Wembley 1988 or 90. Don't remember the date, but Wembley stuck with me.
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Actually, it wasn't a mistake. His string broke.
Jon sure treats it like a mistake. But that makes more sense, Hugh doesn't make mistakes often, if ever. He just sits there, groovin' and playin' his bass. And no photoshoots and interviews (very often), and getting to play with Bon Jovi, this man has an enviable job.
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I agree on ISWID, it sounds fresh and entertaining. Nothing you can say about it now. It even sounds like from early KTF days to me, according to Jon's intro but none of my versions agree. I've listened to some live versions of this song and I must say that eg the one from Rotterdam 1993-04-23 is really cool. It sounded worse even in 1995.
For sure it is from that era. It sounds like some sort of a promo show, like 1992. The SE version has all the right vocals, and a good solo. Some of the versions now just seem to drag on and on and on. And the lower vocals in the chorus make it really sound tired. They need to do something to spice it up, or drop it altogether.

Crushgen24/88 11-09-2010 02:07 AM

I'm pretty Captain Crash is earlier than the HAND Tour.

Captain_jovi 11-09-2010 05:42 AM

Are you sure about the string break? You can still hear him playing. It almost sounds like he started "Radio..." instead. I'd assume from the similar intros.

Johny 11-10-2010 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024962)
Haven't listened to these in a while, and Captain Crash does sound more like HAND tour. IML is definitely LH Tour, because the end of the solo is a bit different, which he started doing on that tour.

Ok, thanks, didn't notice it before

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024962)
"24 years later, and the same smile on my face..."
1984+24=2008

:D now I look like idiot :D why on earth did I think it was 2006? I was thinking about HaND tour because they played bunch thematically similar songs together. Runaway, The Radio Saved My Life Tonight, Just Older - all of them refer to the very beginnings, well Jon makes them refer.
Question is whether he thinks about 1984 as the beginning. When he did the timewarp in 2005 and 2006, he usually stopped in 1984, then he changed it to 1983 or 1982 when Runaway was written.
However, most likely you right :)

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024962)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFYdelZw8SE Same version musically. But the speech at the beginning of this version and the version on the record are different.

Well, there is nothing to change musically, I think. They played the same each show. But you might be correct that Obie put together two different recordings. I just can't see why. In And Out Of Love is the very same as in Tokyo 1985 but the intro is different and sounds like the one they did in 1986... just an example

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024962)

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024962)
Whoops. I just checked, and it must be from Wembley 1988 or 90. Don't remember the date, but Wembley stuck with me.

It is not. I have them all apart from one. So there is a very little chance. They played it differently in 1988 and in 1990 the version was similar but the middle part was different and I don't think he would go back at one show to what he did a month ago when he does the same on the previous night and the night after.

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024962)
Jon sure treats it like a mistake. But that makes more sense, Hugh doesn't make mistakes often, if ever. He just sits there, groovin' and playin' his bass. And no photoshoots and interviews (very often), and getting to play with Bon Jovi, this man has an enviable job.

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1024984)
Are you sure about the string break? You can still hear him playing. It almost sounds like he started "Radio..." instead. I'd assume from the similar intros.

I'm not sure but heard Obie saying it was a broken string.. he might be wrong, we know who he is.
I' surprised that we don't know about it. It is only four or five years ago, I think the pbps were done at that time? And some of the people here must have been there....

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1024962)
For sure it is from that era. It sounds like some sort of a promo show, like 1992. The SE version has all the right vocals, and a good solo. Some of the versions now just seem to drag on and on and on. And the lower vocals in the chorus make it really sound tired. They need to do something to spice it up, or drop it altogether.

YES

Thanks for help, I hope others would join.

TwinFan 11-10-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1025144)
:D now I look like idiot :D why on earth did I think it was 2006? I was thinking about HaND tour because they played bunch thematically similar songs together. Runaway, The Radio Saved My Life Tonight, Just Older - all of them refer to the very beginnings, well Jon makes them refer.
Question is whether he thinks about 1984 as the beginning. When he did the timewarp in 2005 and 2006, he usually stopped in 1984, then he changed it to 1983 or 1982 when Runaway was written.
However, most likely you right :)

I was wondering that, too. I've heard that Runaway was even written in 1980. But I believe the band officially formed in 1983, which would make that 2007, which isn't out of question, with the Prudential shows and the Canada tour. I think that Jon usually refers to 1984 as the beginning of their career, with their first record, and when they started doing live.

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Well, there is nothing to change musically, I think. They played the same each show. But you might be correct that Obie put together two different recordings. I just can't see why. In And Out Of Love is the very same as in Tokyo 1985 but the intro is different and sounds like the one they did in 1986... just an example
I have listened VERY carefully, and I can conclude that it is the same. Trust me.
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It is not. I have them all apart from one. So there is a very little chance. They played it differently in 1988 and in 1990 the version was similar but the middle part was different and I don't think he would go back at one show to what he did a month ago when he does the same on the previous night and the night after.
You're probably right. I don't think where I saw that from was too reliable of a source, but it is from the NJ tour for sure. That doesn't narrow it down a bit, though.

dcj28 11-10-2010 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1024959)


That's nonsense. They did not play any Wembley venue in 1989. They didn't play UK in 1989 at all apart from the Milton Keynes Festival on 1989-08-19
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Dont believe all you read on the internet.
Bon Jovi played at Birmingham nec around christmas of 1989 (between Xmas and new year) . I know I was there and I think Eddie73 can confirm it as he was too. They were supported by Dan Reed Network. I went to 3 shows iirc and it was the first I heard Prayer and I,ll be there for you done acoustically.
There was a review of one of the shows a few years ago in Classic Rock.

Roulette was recorded at Ipswich Gaumont Theatre on Oct 11TH 1984. They were supporting KISS and both groups shows were recorded and played on The Friday Rock Show.

Johny 11-10-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dcj28 (Post 1025149)
Dont believe all you read on the internet.
Bon Jovi played at Birmingham nec around christmas of 1989 (between Xmas and new year) . I know I was there and I think Eddie73 can confirm it as he was too. They were supported by Dan Reed Network. I went to 3 shows iirc and it was the first I heard Prayer and I,ll be there for you done acoustically.
There was a review of one of the shows a few years ago in Classic Rock.

Yes, you're right. They played in Birmingham on 1989-12-27, that's almost 1990 :D I skipped a line when reading it. I have this show too.
But Prayer was done the normal way and I'll Be There For You wasn't played at all. They played Living In Sin at every show at that time - it was the current single. I'll Be There For You was done sometimes as a second ballad of the show, opening the encore. But not that often.

dcj28 11-10-2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1025151)
Yes, you're right. They played in Birmingham on 1989-12-27, that's almost 1990 :D I skipped a line when reading it. I have this show too.
But Prayer was done the normal way and I'll Be There For You wasn't played at all. They played Living In Sin at every show at that time - it was the current single. I'll Be There For You was done sometimes as a second ballad of the show, opening the encore. But not that often.

Johny, I,ve already said they played 3 nights there .The final night they started with Raise Your Hands(as opposed to LYHOM) and played two acoustic songs Prayer and I,ll Be there for you. They also had the lowered platform during Let it rock and JBJ and RS were right above our heads when they came out into the audience.
Without sounding patronising I,m 42 and remember it well. you are 22 and taking your info from the internet I would imagine.
I still cant understand why these shows arent listed on a lot of archive sites, but the same sites state Queensryche supported BJ in the uk in 86. It was in fact a group called FM. There are quite a few mistakes on these archive sites but for some reason when I point them out I seem to be ignored despite the fact I was at these shows. And while I,m still moaning Crown of Thorns, Thunder and Van Halen supported BJ at Sheffield on the Crossroads tour in 95. Not Ugly Kid Joe.

Johny 11-10-2010 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dcj28 (Post 1025154)
Johny, I,ve already said they played 3 nights there .The final night they started with Raise Your Hands(as opposed to LYHOM) and played two acoustic songs Prayer and I,ll Be there for you. They also had the lowered platform during Let it rock and JBJ and RS were right above our heads when they came out into the audience.
Without sounding patronising I,m 42 and remember it well. you are 22 and taking your info from the internet I would imagine.

Yes but now you are speaking about the Wembley shows, right? Or there were three night in Birmingham? If so, which dates? 1989-12-27,28 and 29 and then three nights in Wembley 1990-01-02,03,04.
They did acoustic Prayer at the first Wembley show, along with acoustic jam, Love For Sale and Ride Cowboy Ride. But no I'll Be There For You.
The last show in Wembley started with Raise Your Hands, they also played Social Disease and Seven Days. Only Without Love and Never Say Goobye missed to make it a SWW night :D

I'm taking my info from what I hear ;) I have those shows as bootlegs and the bootlegs were labelled by people who recorded them, which means they were there, just like you :) this is not a question of age ;) I really appreciate people like you remembering those days. I love the New Jersey era everything included, so any new info is precious to me :)

As for Roulette - I've compared them and they are not the same :(

dcj28 11-10-2010 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1025156)
Yes but now you are speaking about the Wembley shows, right? Or there were three night in Birmingham? If so, which dates? 1989-12-27,28 and 29 and then three nights in Wembley 1990-01-02,03,04.
They did acoustic Prayer at the first Wembley show, along with acoustic jam, Love For Sale and Ride Cowboy Ride. But no I'll Be There For You.
The last show in Wembley started with Raise Your Hands, they also played Social Disease and Seven Days. Only Without Love and Never Say Goobye missed to make it a SWW night :D

No mate I,ve only been to Wembley once and that was KISS in 1999. They definitely played 3 nights at Birmingham. I honestly cant remember the dates but know it was between Xmas and New Year. I remember well that I saw them 3 times at Birmingham in 1988 and 3 in 89. Plus the MK Bowl show in August 89.

Johny 11-10-2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1025147)
I was wondering that, too. I've heard that Runaway was even written in 1980. But I believe the band officially formed in 1983, which would make that 2007, which isn't out of question, with the Prudential shows and the Canada tour. I think that Jon usually refers to 1984 as the beginning of their career, with their first record, and when they started doing live.

So we are still at the beginning :D It is Lost Highway tour, that narrows it to only 99 shows :D

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1025147)
I have listened VERY carefully, and I can conclude that it is the same. Trust me.

Ok, I'll trust you ;) Obie is idiot then, changing the intro to a song.

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1025147)
You're probably right. I don't think where I saw that from was too reliable of a source, but it is from the NJ tour for sure. That doesn't narrow it down a bit, though.

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Now trust me :) I've listened to so many BOB as possible and this is definitely the December of 1989.

dcj28 11-10-2010 12:46 AM

The Roulette thing surprises me because I used to have a recording of both KISS' s and Bon Jovi from the Ipswich show.

TwinFan 11-10-2010 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1025161)
So we are still at the beginning :D It is Lost Highway tour, that narrows it to only 99 shows :D

I think you will run yourself ragged trying to figure out the EXACT show for every performance. It's kinda interesting having the mystery.

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Ok, I'll trust you ;) Obie is idiot then, changing the intro to a song.
This has been established multiple times. It's either that, or the intro on the song was edited out of the video. I thought it was cool to hear how the song originated. It is one of my favorites off of that album, but I'm one of the black sheep who love most of the album.

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Now trust me :) I've listened to so many BOB as possible and this is definitely the December of 1989.
I will trust you, because I can understand why you've listened to so many versions. Blood on Blood is an amazing song.

Johny 11-10-2010 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dcj28 (Post 1025159)
No mate I,ve only been to Wembley once and that was KISS in 1999. They definitely played 3 nights at Birmingham. I honestly cant remember the dates but know it was between Xmas and New Year. I remember well that I saw them 3 times at Birmingham in 1988 and 3 in 89. Plus the MK Bowl show in August 89.

Thanks. That's great, we have new dates added to the Jersey tour, if you are really sure.
1989-12-27 exists as bootleg. I don't remember Jon saying whether it is first or which night. I'll listen to it again. I suppose it is the first, it would be logical that they were home or at least didn't play during holiday.

dcj28 11-10-2010 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1025165)
Thanks. That's great, we have new dates added to the Jersey tour, if you are really sure.
1989-12-27 exists as bootleg. I don't remember Jon saying whether it is first or which night. I'll listen to it again. I suppose it is the first, it would be logical that they were home or at least didn't play during holiday.

I know I didnt go on Boxing Day or New Years Eve so it would probably be between 27/28/29 and 30. So just one of these dates to cancel out.

Found a ticket stub for sale online:
Birmingham Nec 29/12/89 - Ticket - UK - 1989
Used Ticket Stub For Concert Fri 29 Dec 1989, /EX

Johny 11-10-2010 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dcj28 (Post 1025162)
The Roulette thing surprises me because I used to have a recording of both KISS' s and Bon Jovi from the Ipswich show.

I only have the Bon Jovi show. Most notable difference is the Richie's counting "one, two, three, four" which he does not do at the Ipswich show for some reason. Another is that we can hear Jon saying "This is for you guys, it is called Roulette" and the song starts immediately. There is some audience noise before it on the SE.

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1025164)
I think you will run yourself ragged trying to figure out the EXACT show for every performance. It's kinda interesting having the mystery.

I'm information hunter :)

I'm just pissed off that they dare to say the songs are from eg SWW albums and put there a recording 22 later.

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Originally Posted by twinfan (Post 1025164)
This has been established multiple times. It's either that, or the intro on the song was edited out of the video. I thought it was cool to hear how the song originated. It is one of my favorites off of that album, but I'm one of the black sheep who love most of the album.

It is definitely one of the better songs on Bounce. Unfortunately it is too overproduced and too dependent on the loops and samples. Ehm sampled second guitar is not a good thing.

TwinFan 11-10-2010 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1025169)
I'm information hunter :)

I'm just pissed off that they dare to say the songs are from eg SWW albums and put there a recording 22 later.

Me too, but when you think about it, how many soundboard recordings of those songs do they have from that era that we don't? Nowadays they keep every show (I assume), back then they didn't. At least they kept it unreleased. It would've been better if it didn't say "Live from the Slippery When Wet Era" in bold lettering on the back.
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It is definitely one of the better songs on Bounce. Unfortunately it is too overproduced and too dependent on the loops and samples. Ehm sampled second guitar is not a good thing.
When it comes to studio recordings, I don't mind the loops and samples. I just figure that they can program it into Dave's keyboard. It makes the song complete, no matter how some would disagree. However, this song is quite dependent on it. What I don't like is when they make Jon's voice sound like an AM Radio or really far away. That's pushing it to the limit.

Avantasian 01-11-2011 06:22 PM

Sorry to push this discussion again, but I got my Crush, New Jersey, Keep The Faith and These Days Special Editions this week, cause they were 5€ each on Amazon.de.

Well, what I wanted to say is that I really think Just Older is from 2005-2006 time. Although Jon's vocals seem to be a bit too strong for this time I thought it's gotta be from there cause you can clearly hear Dave and Jeff Kazee play Keys.

There's a piano (both handed) and an organ playing simultaneously, which is clearly an indication for the HAND tour, or was Kazee still with them on the LH tour?

Or is it even from 2004 Borgata show? (Wonder if it was played there?)

Captain_jovi 01-11-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Avantasian (Post 1035071)
Sorry to push this discussion again, but I got my Crush, New Jersey, Keep The Faith and These Days Special Editions this week, cause they were 5€ each on Amazon.de.

Well, what I wanted to say is that I really think Just Older is from 2005-2006 time. Although Jon's vocals seem to be a bit too strong for this time I thought it's gotta be from there cause you can clearly hear Dave and Jeff Kazee play Keys.

There's a piano (both handed) and an organ playing simultaneously, which is clearly an indication for the HAND tour, or was Kazee still with them on the LH tour?

Or is it even from 2004 Borgata show? (Wonder if it was played there?)

Isnt Older one of those songs where Dave does both? I know there are some songs where Dave is able to play two parts at once and stand awkwardly. Sleep when Im dead being one of them.

Avantasian 01-11-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1035079)
Isnt Older one of those songs where Dave does both? I know there are some songs where Dave is able to play two parts at once and stand awkwardly. Sleep when Im dead being one of them.

Yeah that's true. He does that again since the Hand tour.

But there are two reasons I thought this can't be Dave only:

a) the organ in this version is quite prominent in the mix and sounds different to the organ-sound Dave uses usually.
b) in the calm part of the song you can hear Dave clearly play piano both handed. He wouldn't be able to play these organ licks while doing this. He'd need a third hand :)

Captain_jovi 01-12-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Avantasian (Post 1035081)
Yeah that's true. He does that again since the Hand tour.

But there are two reasons I thought this can't be Dave only:

a) the organ in this version is quite prominent in the mix and sounds different to the organ-sound Dave uses usually.
b) in the calm part of the song you can hear Dave clearly play piano both handed. He wouldn't be able to play these organ licks while doing this. He'd need a third hand :)

Just listened to the version we're talking about. You're clearly correct, my bad.

Emisambora 01-12-2011 01:59 AM

Just finished to register all albums in the vault.

I got to say, this time I really like what Obie did with this songs.
Richieīs guitar on Raise your hands itīs on the top of the mixing, itīs on vocals level.
And the same to Hey God, itīs one of the most powerfull version that I got and the mix is great again.

Good job this time

The Northern Cowboy 01-12-2011 05:31 PM

A question about the live version of Any Other Day. Did they edit it out, or did Richie not play the a solo during the "jam" during some of the shows? It just seems odd that Bobby, Lorenza, and David would get turns but not Richie.

Thierry 01-12-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Northern Cowboy (Post 1035147)
A question about the live version of Any Other Day. Did they edit it out, or did Richie not play the a solo during the "jam" during some of the shows? It just seems odd that Bobby, Lorenza, and David would get turns but not Richie.

Later on in the tour Richie's end solo was cut out - he simply didn't play it anymore.

The Northern Cowboy 01-13-2011 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1035156)
Later on in the tour Richie's end solo was cut out - he simply didn't play it anymore.

Ahh ok. I wonder why? :(

sc3lj 01-18-2011 09:34 PM

just had a quick look through some press cuttings i've got, listed below are the UK tour dates from Dec '88 & Dec'89/Jan '90. taken from press ads at the time:

1988:

2/3 Dec - Glasgow S.E.C.C.
5/6 Dec - Birmingham N.E.C.
8/9 Dec - Wembley Arena
11 Dec - Birmingham N.E.C.
12/13 Dec - Wembley Arena

1989/90:

27/28/29/30 Dec - Birmingham N.E.C.

2/3/4 Jan - Wembley Arena
6 Jan - Belfast King's Hall
7 Jan - Dublin The Point

I'm sure they played Dublin in '88 as well. I'll check it out

hope this helps

sc

MartinTexas 06-10-2011 02:36 AM

Hi! I know it's a topic with no new posts for a long time. But I bought some times ago my first CD from Special Edition (Bounce).

Thanks for great work for recognition some of Live Bonus Tracks. It's a shame that the Live songs aren't labeled/named precisely (by place and date). It's not hard for singles why it was so hard for albums? Maybe becouse some aren't from rigth tour? :confused:

I have a question about of rest of the Bonus tracks (from vault.bonjovi.com). Is there a list of all of them? (1 per album?) It would be nice to get them listed all alonside CD tracks. And if anyone could say from which show are they? :rolleyes:

Any info about Bounce (Live) or Everyday (Live "from vault")? And from what exactly promo concert The Distance is? :rolleyes:

BJdavidLS 06-11-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinTexas (Post 1054097)
I have a question about of rest of the Bonus tracks (from vault.bonjovi.com). Is there a list of all of them? (1 per album?) It would be nice to get them listed all alonside CD tracks. And if anyone could say from which show are they?

The list is here:
http://www.bjaidb.com/album_info.php?album_ID=315
maybe Johny could add them to the list on post #1

bonjovi821 06-11-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BJdavidLS (Post 1054543)
The list is here:
http://www.bjaidb.com/album_info.php?album_ID=315
maybe Johny could add them to the list on post #1

"Raise Your Hands 5'35'' (recorded live during the Slippery When Wet tour)"

Hahahahaha I don't think so. It's really sad how a lot of the songs in these Special Editions were claimed to be from their respective tours when they're so obviously not, Raise Your Hands and Livin' On A Prayer being the very very obvious ones.

MartinTexas 06-29-2011 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BJdavidLS (Post 1054543)
The list is here:
http://www.bjaidb.com/album_info.php?album_ID=315
maybe Johny could add them to the list on post #1

Thanks for reply! :) It's crazy that after buying another verion of album I have to pay for extra song, as it should be gratis for this Special Versions :rolleyes:

efiste2 07-17-2011 06:27 PM

please excuse my noob question, but all these SOUNDBOARD recordings, how does the "recorder" get access to the sound board:confused:

TwinFan 07-17-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by efiste2 (Post 1065596)
please excuse my noob question, but all these SOUNDBOARD recordings, how does the "recorder" get access to the sound board:confused:

Well, the recorder is usually someone in band management, and they already have access to the soundboard.

eddie73 12-13-2018 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dcj28 (Post 1025149)
Dont believe all you read on the internet.
Bon Jovi played at Birmingham nec around christmas of 1989 (between Xmas and new year) . I know I was there and I think Eddie73 can confirm it as he was too. They were supported by Dan Reed Network. I went to 3 shows iirc and it was the first I heard Prayer and I,ll be there for you done acoustically.
There was a review of one of the shows a few years ago in Classic Rock.

Roulette was recorded at Ipswich Gaumont Theatre on Oct 11TH 1984. They were supporting KISS and both groups shows were recorded and played on The Friday Rock Show.


yup confirmed, think was from December 27th from memory ( sorry for late response ) haha

mo_rizwan 01-31-2019 05:43 AM

Livin' On A Prayer is from X-Factor 2010 LOL


Thinny 01-31-2019 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mo_rizwan (Post 1250484)

I don't think I've ever seen that before, but the band are clearly miming to a live version of the track! Watch Richie's hands at the end of the Solo......


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