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Mrs.Sambo 03-22-2006 01:44 AM

sex sells demos vs. crush demos
 
could someone tell me please if they are the same demos or itīs difference between both. I found a website it says
Sex Sells Demo's – Jon Bon Jovi (1998)
Even Bad Times Are Good Times
Even In Your Imagination
Gimme Some
Good Ain't Good Enough
Hush
I Can Save The World
I Got The Girl
Life's Too Short For Days Like These
Older
Rich Man Living In A Poor Man's House
Real Life
Shadow Dancing
Someday You'll Ride Wild Horses
Stay
These Arms Are Open All Night
You Can't Lose At Love

and then
Crush Outtakes (2000)
Ain't No Cure For Love
Hush
I Don't Wanna Live Forever
Life's Too Short For Days Like These
Neurotica
Ordinary People
Sex Sells
Stay
Temptation
Welcome To The Good Times
You Can't Lose At Love

specially hush, you canīt lose at love and stay

I think itīs the same, but Iīm not sure...tnx

Captain_jovi 03-22-2006 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs.Sambo
could someone tell me please if they are the same demos or itīs difference between both. I found a website it says
Sex Sells Demo's – Jon Bon Jovi (1998)
Even Bad Times Are Good Times
Even In Your Imagination
Gimme Some
Good Ain't Good Enough
Hush
I Can Save The World
I Got The Girl
Life's Too Short For Days Like These
Older
Rich Man Living In A Poor Man's House
Real Life
Shadow Dancing
Someday You'll Ride Wild Horses
Stay
These Arms Are Open All Night
You Can't Lose At Love

and then
Crush Outtakes (2000)
Ain't No Cure For Love
Hush
I Don't Wanna Live Forever
Life's Too Short For Days Like These
Neurotica
Ordinary People
Sex Sells
Stay
Temptation
Welcome To The Good Times
You Can't Lose At Love

specially hush, you canīt lose at love and stay

I think itīs the same, but Iīm not sure...tnx

Hush, Stay, and you can't lose at love are the exact same versions, just repackaged as band songs.

I Can Save The World
I Got The Girl
Older
Real Life

were recorded with the band.

Mrs.Sambo 03-22-2006 01:58 AM

tnx and whatīs about gimme some? itīs not played with all band?

Captain_jovi 03-22-2006 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs.Sambo
tnx and whatīs about gimme some? itīs not played with all band?

Oh sorry, Gimme some is the exact same as the sex sells version. Jon Solo.

Mrs.Sambo 03-22-2006 02:19 AM

Only Jon?pity, good song, I didnīt know this, thanks....and my really last question about this...whatīs about sex sells in Crush Outtakes 2000?

Captain_jovi 03-22-2006 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs.Sambo
Only Jon?pity, good song, I didnīt know this, thanks....and my really last question about this...whatīs about sex sells in Crush Outtakes 2000?

Sex Sells was recorded by Jon and then again by the band. For awhile, it was in the running for being the title track of what became crush but as soon as the track didn't make the final tracklisting, the album title was changed, to One Wild Night, and then Crush.

ugly_queen_from_mars 03-22-2006 03:49 AM

you mean you have all these songs? :/

bejt 03-23-2006 04:30 AM

Just Older
 

Just Older- the sex sells version had slightly different lyrics to it


JBJ solo version of "Just Older", as performed during 1998 JBJ tour

Baby it has been a while
Do you remember me?
I'm 36, I was 17
A little wild, a little green
I've been up and down and in between
It's been 18 years, can you believe that I'm still chasing that dream?
But I ain't looking over my shoulder

I like the bed I'm sleeping in
Just like me it's broken in
It's not old, just older
Like a faded pair of torn blue jeans
This skin I'm in is alright with me
It's not old, just older

It's good to see your face
It ain't no worse for wear
I know what you mean and I do care
She's doing ok, seen her last year
She got married and don't live too far from here
Sometimes I wish that I told her...

But I like the bed I'm sleeping in
Just like me it's broken in
It's not old, just older
Like a faded pair of torn blue jeans
This skin I'm in is alright with me
It's not old, just older

But I'm not old enough to sing those blues
But I've worn a hole in the soles of these shoes
You roll the dice and I call your bluff
But you can't win until you're not afraid to lose

Well I've got to run, you take care
If you see Coach T, tell him I've cut my hair
In all these years, can you believe that I'm still chasing dreams?
But I ain't looking over my shoulder

I like the bed I'm sleeping in
Just like me it's broken in
It's not old, just older
Like a faded pair of torn blue jeans
This skin I'm in is alright with me
It's not old, just older

When I look in the mirror I don't hate what I see
Just a few more lines staring back at me
And I'm not old, just ...

Captain_jovi 03-23-2006 04:37 AM

I REALLY really prefer

"It's good to see your face
It ain't no worse for wear
I know what you mean and I do care
She's doing ok, seen her last year
She got married and don't live too far from here
Sometimes I wish that I told her... "

to the original lyrics.

bejt 03-23-2006 12:23 PM

I guess we have a some sort of "privilage" to select what we prefer... ;)
one usually dosen't get the chance to peak in and see the first versions of things.

I'm kinda glad Jon changed the first verses here- It's a bit harder to connect to a line dealing with Vietnam,and I LOVE just older, so it works better for me.

Another example is the HAND demo- it's sound all messed up- cause Jon took the song and changed the lines to how we know it
I personally prefer the end of the demo choures
"it might save your life"

dcote76 03-23-2006 03:10 PM

Is there a demo call Sex Sells? Who've heard it?

Captain_jovi 03-23-2006 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bejt
I guess we have a some sort of "privilage" to select what we prefer... ;)
one usually dosen't get the chance to peak in and see the first versions of things.

I'm kinda glad Jon changed the first verses here- It's a bit harder to connect to a line dealing with Vietnam,and I LOVE just older, so it works better for me.

Another example is the HAND demo- it's sound all messed up- cause Jon took the song and changed the lines to how we know it
I personally prefer the end of the demo choures
"it might save your life"

I prefer the first verse of Just Older in the final version and the second verse in the old version.

I didn't like the "It might save your life" line because it just made no sense to me. WHAT might save your life? Saying have a nice day?

Captain_jovi 03-23-2006 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcote76
Is there a demo call Sex Sells? Who've heard it?

Unreleased, unpreviewed, unheard. :(

Bongo VII 03-23-2006 08:04 PM

standing on a ledge might save your life

as in, it takes being at the absolute end of your rope to get you going again

I like that chorus better, personally. Not a lot, though.

Captain_jovi 03-23-2006 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bongo VII
standing on a ledge might save your life

as in, it takes being at the absolute end of your rope to get you going again

I like that chorus better, personally. Not a lot, though.

OH. I think I was interpretting it wrong. I always thought it was like saying Have a nice day will get you off the ledge and I just never got that. Okay.

Alphavictim 03-23-2006 11:06 PM

I liked the original vocal of the HAND chorus line better - not much different, but a bit better. Why didn't they just stick to "believe", it would have fit with the new lyrics and kept the original number of sylklables. Oh well. The "a capella" part of the original was GREAT, the new riff is simpler but catchier, and the new solo is also better, even though a Bad Name-ish, classical 80s run-up of the scales at the end would have truely been the cream on the top of it.
And if only they'd combined the best of the two songs into one ultimate version... oh well.


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