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liljovi93 01-17-2023 09:04 PM

1 Billion Streams On Spotify - Living On A Prayer
 
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jovifan85 01-18-2023 01:35 PM

Amazing Achevement! Could "It's My Life", "Always" reach this target?

Nice to see JBJ say thank you to the fans! And Spotify for the award.

Thinny 01-18-2023 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan85 (Post 1283751)
Amazing Achevement! Could "It's My Life", "Always" reach this target?

Judging by current stats Bad Name will get there first (796mill), It's My Life is on 628mill. Always 396mill and Wanted just behind with 332mill.

The rest of the top ten is Bed Of Roses (275mill), Runaway (195mill), I'll Be There For You (162mill). Bad Medicine (143 mill) and suprsingly Thank You For Loving Me (77mill)

Walleris 01-19-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1283753)
...and suprsingly Thank You For Loving Me (77mill)

It's not surprising to me. Say It Isn't So was a total flop, so that extra attention gathered from It's My Life needed to go somewhere. And I think with time it's legacy probably increased, given how they never really did another big power ballad like this ever since. Plus, I think the music video in Venice was quite a good one, by their standards. When I first switched from casual to a diehard around 2008, I couldn't understand why Jon completely ignored it on the setlist, especially given how the more popular ballads were more vocally challenging.

I just think, much like with the Bounce era songs, he completely underestimated the local element of songs popularity and not playing the European or South American hits even in those markets, just because those songs were not popular in US.

bonjovi90 01-19-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1283758)
It's not surprising to me. Say It Isn't So was a total flop, so that extra attention gathered from It's My Life needed to go somewhere. And I think with time it's legacy probably increased, given how they never really did another big power ballad like this ever since. Plus, I think the music video in Venice was quite a good one, by their standards. When I first switched from casual to a diehard around 2008, I couldn't understand why Jon completely ignored it on the setlist, especially given how the more popular ballads were more vocally challenging.



I just think, much like with the Bounce era songs, he completely underestimated the local element of songs popularity and not playing the European or South American hits even in those markets, just because those songs were not popular in US.

The music video was shot in Rome, at the Trevi fountain [emoji6]

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Captain_jovi 01-19-2023 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1283758)
And I think with time it's legacy probably increased, given how they never really did another big power ballad like this ever since.

OOOH explain this thought please so I can see if I agree haha. All About Loving You felt like a carbon copy, I feel like there's been some songs in a very similar style and structure. It for sure kicked off the trend of their power ballads really lighter on guitars.

nikos greece 01-19-2023 04:13 PM

Good achievement for sure... Loap will very soon reach 1 billion vies on you tube as well!!

Faceman 01-19-2023 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1283758)
It's not surprising to me. Say It Isn't So was a total flop, so that extra attention gathered from It's My Life needed to go somewhere. And I think with time it's legacy probably increased, given how they never really did another big power ballad like this ever since.

While you are not wrong at all I don't think this relates too good to spotify since Crush was already 8 years old when Spotify started and it took another couple of years until the user figures really went through the roof. So at that point of time there was no attention for Crush or It's My Life anymore from which any song could have gathered.

Thinny 01-19-2023 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1283758)
I just think, much like with the Bounce era songs, he completely underestimated the local element of songs popularity and not playing the European or South American hits even in those markets, just because those songs were not popular in US.

I can only go from the UK and Thank You For Loving Me is not a song that most people here know. Stuff not in the Spotify top ten like Keep The Faith, Someday I'll be Saturday Night, In These Arms, Lay Your Hands On Me (pretty much anything that is on Cross Road) are much more popular and well known here than Thank You is here. Hence my surpise. I don't recall Thank You being much of a hit anywhere, but I could be wrong. The rest of the top 10 I expected.

Captain_jovi 01-19-2023 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1283763)
While you are not wrong at all I don't think this relates too good to spotify since Crush was already 8 years old when Spotify started and it took another couple of years until the user figures really went through the roof. So at that point of time there was no attention for Crush or It's My Life anymore from which any song could have gathered.

Oh man, this is such a good point. For it to do that well, so far past when it came out is curious. Weddings maybe?

JoviForever 01-19-2023 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1283760)
OOOH explain this thought please so I can see if I agree haha. All About Loving You felt like a carbon copy, I feel like there's been some songs in a very similar style and structure. It for sure kicked off the trend of their power ballads really lighter on guitars.

There was a period when they were trying to replicate the success of Always and failed miserably.

bonjovi90 01-19-2023 09:58 PM

Bounce (the finished product) was overall just a miserable attempt at copying own or someone else's success. From the nu metal-like guitars to the Creed-influence to basically trying to copy the success of IML and TYFLM with their two ugly little brothers, it just went off the rails.
There's a reason why it was left out of the GH compilation and Richie being quoted saying: "Bounce wasn't much fun, but we shoved it down everyone's throats anyway..."

Butters 01-19-2023 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1283769)
Bounce (the finished product) was overall just a miserable attempt at copying own or someone else's success. From the nu metal-like guitars to the Creed-influence to basically trying to copy the success of IML and TYFLM with their two ugly little brothers, it just went off the rails.
There's a reason why it was left out of the GH compilation and Richie being quoted saying: "Bounce wasn't much fun, but we shoved it down everyone's throats anyway..."

You are entirely right, and I do believe Bounce is the least artistically interesting and unique records they made in their pomp, BUT there are some fantastic songs on that album (and even better songs that were left off the album).

Captain_jovi 01-20-2023 01:54 AM

I think it's a valid point to make. But a part of me thinks it's funny we can't accept All About Loving You for being a true power ballad of theres because it was made to sound like the past when Thank You For Loving Me is just as guilty, even down to rehashing "These five words". Both, to me, felt very forced and calculated but I guess the band post 1992 can be guilty of that.

Javier 01-20-2023 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1283774)
I think it's a valid point to make. But a part of me thinks it's funny we can't accept All About Loving You for being a true power ballad of theres because it was made to sound like the past when Thank You For Loving Me is just as guilty, even down to rehashing "These five words". Both, to me, felt very forced and calculated but I guess the band post 1992 can be guilty of that.

The amount of people that lists Thank you for loving me as one of their favorite Bon Jovi songs would surprise you. It's aged extremely well and is still being played at weddings, and graduations (as a dedication to the parents). Music really hasn't evolved that much since then so stuff released in 2000 (which is already 22 years old) is still pretty relevant within the landscape of music as a whole. Which is really weird when you think about it....

Walleris 01-20-2023 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1283763)
While you are not wrong at all I don't think this relates too good to spotify since Crush was already 8 years old when Spotify started and it took another couple of years until the user figures really went through the roof. So at that point of time there was no attention for Crush or It's My Life anymore from which any song could have gathered.

Yes, Spotify would not reflect the song's popularity at the time (because of timing as you said), but it still reflects the songs' overall longstanding popularity, especially in the context of Bon Jovi top 10 songs, because other songs it "competes" against were also released way before Spotify. So my point was more about why Thank You was more popular in general than some people realize, and Spotify is simply one metric to track / prove that.

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1283759)
The music video was shot in Rome, at the Trevi fountain [emoji6]

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Yes, obviously! I should have double-checked this before my comment. It is quite embarrassing given how I have visited both cities!

Faceman 01-20-2023 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1283769)
Bounce (the finished product) was overall just a miserable attempt at copying own or someone else's success. From the nu metal-like guitars to the Creed-influence to basically trying to copy the success of IML and TYFLM with their two ugly little brothers, it just went off the rails.
There's a reason why it was left out of the GH compilation and Richie being quoted saying: "Bounce wasn't much fun, but we shoved it down everyone's throats anyway..."

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Originally Posted by Butters (Post 1283772)
You are entirely right, and I do believe Bounce is the least artistically interesting and unique records they made in their pomp, BUT there are some fantastic songs on that album (and even better songs that were left off the album).

I still don't get the hate for that album. Maybe it's because, while knowing the band and their music long before, that album finally turned me into a fan.
To me it is one of their most consistent albums. It is one of only a few Bon Jovi albums in which you can clearly hear the musical leitmotif. While there are (as usual) quite some outtakes that are better songs, the song selection as a whole fits much better together than the songs on Crush or even on Keep The Faith. Bounce has a flow that Crush and Keep The Faith are missing (both great albums in their own right, but as mentioned by many of you in a lot of threads before, Keep The Faith has very strong and perfectly fitting first 6 songs while afterwards the flow drops).

At the end of the day it's probably just a matter of taste.

JoviForever 01-20-2023 08:26 PM

Bounce is as masterpiece compared to What About Now!🤣

liljovi93 01-21-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1283778)
I still don't get the hate for that album. Maybe it's because, while knowing the band and their music long before, that album finally turned me into a fan.

To me it is one of their most consistent albums. It is one of only a few Bon Jovi albums in which you can clearly hear the musical leitmotif. While there are (as usual) quite some outtakes that are better songs, the song selection as a whole fits much better together than the songs on Crush or even on Keep The Faith. Bounce has a flow that Crush and Keep The Faith are missing (both great albums in their own right, but as mentioned by many of you in a lot of threads before, Keep The Faith has very strong and perfectly fitting first 6 songs while afterwards the flow drops).



At the end of the day it's probably just a matter of taste.

It's mad because the flow of Bounce is something I'm not particularly a fan of.

I really like Everyday but I feel most of the 'even songs' (tracks 4,,6,8...) Are boring or poor whereas the odd number title tracks are heavy or some of my favourite by the band.
Undivided
The Distance
Not so much Misunderstood for me but it's ok
Hook Me Up
Love Me Back To Life
Bounce

All songs I strongly like ^


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Alphavictim 01-21-2023 02:19 PM

Undivided, Misunderstood and the title track are great. Crush has about as many genuinely good tracks as well (IML, Thank You, One Wild Night) - interestingly enough, they were all released as singles, too. Two Story Town is cool, same for Just Older - I guess the b-tier stuff is better on Crush?

Rdkopper 01-24-2023 06:52 PM

Jon ages 3 years for every year that goes by. What is that weird pointing / smile thing he does at the end?

My mother must have stumbled upon this and texted me asking if Jon had an English accent. I didn't even know how to respond.

BJFan2021 01-28-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1283836)
Jon ages 3 years for every year that goes by. What is that weird pointing / smile thing he does at the end?

My mother must have stumbled upon this and texted me asking if Jon had an English accent. I didn't even know how to respond.

I think of it as the cameraman dragging it on for way too long, creating an awkward scenario that everyone has experienced at least once in their lives.

Nothing noteworthy or of importance to mention

Litneg 01-28-2023 03:45 PM

And now Prayer just passed 1B views on Youtube!

GabrielC 01-28-2023 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1283758)
It's not surprising to me. Say It Isn't So was a total flop, so that extra attention gathered from It's My Life needed to go somewhere. And I think with time it's legacy probably increased, given how they never really did another big power ballad like this ever since. Plus, I think the music video in Venice was quite a good one, by their standards. When I first switched from casual to a diehard around 2008, I couldn't understand why Jon completely ignored it on the setlist, especially given how the more popular ballads were more vocally challenging.

I just think, much like with the Bounce era songs, he completely underestimated the local element of songs popularity and not playing the European or South American hits even in those markets, just because those songs were not popular in US.

Thank You For Loving Me is HUGE in Brazil. Probably their second biggest ballad, behind Always. I think this affects the numbers, as Spotify is the most popular streaming service in Brazil as well.

Litneg 01-29-2023 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1283857)
Thank You For Loving Me is HUGE in Brazil. Probably their second biggest ballad, behind Always. I think this affects the numbers, as Spotify is the most popular streaming service in Brazil as well.

Not to mention Misunderstood. To this date it still one of Bon Jovi's most popular songs round here.

steel_horse75 01-30-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1283870)
Not to mention Misunderstood. To this date it still one of Bon Jovi's most popular songs round here.

that song flopped in Uk. I dont think theyve had what you call a big single in UK since then

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Butters 01-30-2023 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1283877)
that song flopped in Uk. I dont think theyve had what you call a big single in UK since then

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Have a Nice Day did pretty well.

Thinny 01-30-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Butters (Post 1283878)
Have a Nice Day did pretty well.

Who Says actually did better than Have A Nice Day as far as chart positions go (HAND got to 6, Who Says 5). but that was there the hits ended...

liljovi93 02-02-2023 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Butters (Post 1283878)
Have a Nice Day did pretty well.

Yeah, HAND and Who Says done well charts wise.

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Butters 02-02-2023 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1283881)
Who Says actually did better than Have A Nice Day as far as chart positions go (HAND got to 6, Who Says 5). but that was there the hits ended...

Yep. I was just looking up how songs like Memory and Born To Follow did in the UK charts and they were total bombs. Funny that Who Says was the last 'hit' the band had in THE UK.

Malachy 03-02-2023 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Butters (Post 1283891)
Yep. I was just looking up how songs like Memory and Born To Follow did in the UK charts and they were total bombs. Funny that Who Says was the last 'hit' the band had in THE UK.

A lot bigger, it got a lot of radio play back in the day particularly in Ireland.

Cameronjm 10-09-2023 09:39 AM

It's incredible to think about the journey of this iconic song, from its initial release to now, where it continues to be a staple in the playlists of fans young and old. The fact that it resonates with new generations is a testament to the band's incredible talent.

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