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danfan 08-10-2018 03:16 PM

MSG Show 2008 Audio
 
Has there ever been a soundboard quality MP3 of this show? I ripped the audio from the DVD but it sounds like crap. I'd love to have this show with good sounding quality.

bonjovi90 08-10-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1243918)
Has there ever been a soundboard quality MP3 of this show? I ripped the audio from the DVD but it sounds like crap. I'd love to have this show with good sounding quality.

Then the way/settings you've used to rip it has been crap. You can have it in the quality it is on the DVD when extracting the audio.

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bonjovi90 08-10-2018 04:57 PM

Btw you've had this thread before:
https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-j...ard-cd-t69981/

Dave 1986 08-11-2018 07:21 PM

I posted a few tips on this thread here;

https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-j...ty-mp3-t70336/

-Get DVD Audio Extractor. (http://www.dvdae.com/)
-Rip to WAV first, keeping settings (such as sample rate) "same as source" anywhere possible.
-Convert to MP3 at 320kbps (I use dBpoweramp for this personally (https://www.dbpoweramp.com/)) which pretty much preserves DVD Audio quality
-Delete original WAV files if you want
-Job done

Sometimes the volume varies on many DVD's but that can be fixed very quickly with MP3Gain (http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/) which doesn't require any re-encoding or loss of quality. It just boosts the volume on your existing mp3s and any changes can be undone.
Or if you use Audacity (https://www.audacityteam.org/), it has an "Amplify" option which does basically the same thing.

bonjovi90 08-11-2018 07:31 PM

Very well written!

But, if I remember correctly, DVD Audio Extractor lets you choose conversion to mp3 directly, so you can skip that wav conversion step.

And for volume gain, Mp3 Gain is really the easiest solution and much faster than doing that in Audacity.

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Rdkopper 08-12-2018 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1243932)
Very well written!

But, if I remember correctly, DVD Audio Extractor lets you choose conversion to mp3 directly, so you can skip that wav conversion step.

And for volume gain, Mp3 Gain is really the easiest solution and much faster than doing that in Audacity.

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The only problem with MP3 gain is, if there is something driving the audio level high such as a clap, it will use that as the highest indicator... When you do it manually, you can work around that.

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Dave 1986 08-12-2018 12:17 AM

MSG Show 2008 Audio
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1243932)
Very well written!

But, if I remember correctly, DVD Audio Extractor lets you choose conversion to mp3 directly, so you can skip that wav conversion step.


Thank you very much. :)

I know it does, but I seem to remember about 12 years ago when I first started doing this that converting straight from DVD to MP3 didn’t give very good results. Sounding rather watery and compressed from what I remember. It’s probably not an issue now with later versions but I seem to remember reading online at the time about converting to WAV first to preserve the quality before re-encoding. In fact, I seem to remember people suggesting to burn to Audio CD first the re-rip to MP3. I know it’s a bit more hassle doing this but it guarantees quality results. But once you’ve converted to MP3, you can do away with the WAVs.

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1243935)
The only problem with MP3 gain is, if there is something driving the audio level high such as a clap, it will use that as the highest indicator... When you do it manually, you can work around that.

Thats a good point but if you really want to, you can turn the “no clipping” option off but then you risk compressing the dynamics and ruining the listening experience.

Like you say, if you use a program like Audacity, you can work around it.

Dave 1986 09-21-2018 12:09 AM

Just remembered, when ripping DVD Audio, avoid using any volume-normalizing. Try and keep the audio as pure as possibly when ripping. I don't know if you've been maxing out the volume when you've tried it yourself (I don't know what your rips sound like) then that could contribute to poor sound quality due to possibly crushing the dynamics (the louder and quieter downs) flat.

bonjovi90 09-21-2018 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave 1986 (Post 1244689)
Just remembered, when ripping DVD Audio, avoid using any volume-normalizing. Try and keep the audio as pure as possibly when ripping. I don't know if you've been maxing out the volume when you've tried it yourself (I don't know what your rips sound like) then that could contribute to poor sound quality due to possibly crushing the dynamics (the louder and quieter downs) flat.

Basically correct, but in recent Bon Jovi releases you basically don't have dynamics to crush anyway [emoji23]

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Dave 1986 09-21-2018 12:28 AM

MSG Show 2008 Audio
 
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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1244690)
Basically correct, but in recent Bon Jovi releases you basically don't have dynamics to crush anyway [emoji23]

Very true when it comes to CD's and digital albums but some Music DVD's can be very dynamic. Then others are just as maxed-out and compressed-sounding as CD albums.

The This Left Feels Right Live DVD stereo track, for example, is great in terms of sound quality/dynamics. I can't speak for MGS 2008 as I've only ever owned the Blu Ray and have never has any means of ripping BD audio.


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