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Captain_jovi 03-18-2021 07:36 PM

New Jon Interview - AXS
 
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/jo...-and-recorded/

Hoo boy, where to begin.

""Let's pretend that on an average night, there's 23 or 24 songs. 15 of 'em are gonna have to be the hits, which leaves me eight songs to play with. Four are probably gonna be new songs, which is gonna make the artist happy, and then two of 'em get to be the crazy album track or cover song that you just feel like getting your jukebox on. And that's pretty much what you're relegated to — simply because if I come to your town and I don't play 'Livin' On A Prayer' or 'It's My Life' or '[You Give Love A] Bad Name' again, you're gonna be disappointed. I don't wanna disappoint you."

This sums up why this is a band I don't really have a desire to pay $100+ to see again. To put cover songs in the same category as album cuts is really strange. Not to mention they have plenty of album cuts in the show, it's just the same album cuts from tour to tour they've somehow convinced themselves are hits. Lost Highway, Whole Lot of Leavin, We got it going on, Sleep when I'm dead could all be swapped out by this point.

""So, [fans] wanna hear 'Prayer' and 'It's My Life' and 'Bad Name' and 'Wanted [Dead Or Alive]' the way they were written and recorded.""

He didn't have that problem in 2006 when most of the ballads were the TFLR-hybrids.

steel_horse75 03-19-2021 05:41 PM

I think the set for the next tour will be same as the last tour with a few from 2020 replacing a few from THINFS.

The set is dictated by Jon's voice.
Even in interviews his voice has changed so much. Was listening to the Rockenteurs interview and it doesn't sound like Jon. That may be down to recording stuff used of course.

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JoviForever 03-19-2021 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1272935)
I think the set for the next tour will be same as the last tour with a few from 2020 replacing a few from THINFS.

The set is dictated by Jon's voice.
Even in interviews his voice has changed so much. Was listening to the Rockenteurs interview and it doesn't sound like Jon. That may be down to recording stuff used of course.

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I listened to that one and I don’t think I’ve heard him sound so animated. He almost sounded a bit hyper! I don’t know if it was because he was talking to other musicians and not just another journalist but he was unusually enthusiastic!

liljovi93 03-19-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviForever (Post 1272936)
I listened to that one and I don’t think I’ve heard him sound so animated. He almost sounded a bit hyper! I don’t know if it was because he was talking to other musicians and not just another journalist but he was unusually enthusiastic!

Yeah, that's what I put it down too. I just thought he was a bit giddy and you could tell it was an interview that he was looking forward too more than others he's done for a long time.


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steel_horse75 03-19-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviForever (Post 1272936)
I listened to that one and I don’t think I’ve heard him sound so animated. He almost sounded a bit hyper! I don’t know if it was because he was talking to other musicians and not just another journalist but he was unusually enthusiastic!


I think he said at the end it’s good to talk to musicians and people who have lived and breathed the industry (or words to that effect). I listened to the Jonny Marr one today and he said the same kind of thing At the end.


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Captain_jovi 03-19-2021 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1272937)
Yeah, that's what I put it down too. I just thought he was a bit giddy and you could tell it was an interview that he was looking forward too more than others he's done for a long time.


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Just listening to it now. Holy heeeeell. This is great to hear him talk like this. Openly admitting the song failed at country radio while still in the same promo cycle is pretty weird to hear him talk about.

liljovi93 03-19-2021 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272939)
Just listening to it now. Holy heeeeell. This is great to hear him talk like this. Openly admitting the song failed at country radio while still in the same promo cycle is pretty weird to hear him talk about.

100%! I was actually on a jog listening to the podcast and that almost took me off my stride! He sounded quite hurt about what got sent to him too.

It did make me think that this may be the last time he tries that route now, though. Hopefully anyway, in my opinion.

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Captain_jovi 03-19-2021 09:50 PM

Woah woah woah, did we just get official confirmation from Jon that Hugh played on Prayer?

Supersonic 03-20-2021 11:03 AM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272914)
""Let's pretend that on an average night, there's 23 or 24 songs. 15 of 'em are gonna have to be the hits, which leaves me eight songs to play with. Four are probably gonna be new songs, which is gonna make the artist happy, and then two of 'em get to be the crazy album track or cover song that you just feel like getting your jukebox on. And that's pretty much what you're relegated to — simply because if I come to your town and I don't play 'Livin' On A Prayer' or 'It's My Life' or '[You Give Love A] Bad Name' again, you're gonna be disappointed. I don't wanna disappoint you."

Jon's pretending a lot here so it fits the bullshit excuses he's made for himself. The last leg in South America had no 24-song setlists with most shows having just under 20 songs. The last time the band played 24 songs was halfway through their European leg. Longer shows were impossible with him nearly dying on stage.

But, yeah, let's say there's 24 songs. Let's say 15 of them are their biggest hits. It still doesn't make sense as he's ignoring about 5 of their biggest hits on a steady basis. Based upon what their biggest hits in the U.S.A. are here's your list:
  1. You Give Love A Bad Name
  2. Livin' On A Prayer
  3. Wanted Dead Or Alive
  4. Bad Medicine
  5. I'll Be There For You
  6. Born To Be My Baby
  7. Lay Your Hands On Me
  8. Living In Sin
  9. In These Arms
  10. Bed Of Roses
  11. Always
  12. This Ain't A Love Song
  13. It's My Life
  14. Who Says You Can't Go Home
  15. (You Want To) Make A Memory

Sure, that's 15 hits. But the 6 songs listed in red are ignored close to every show.

Of these 6 hits, 3 get replaced by smaller hits. Keep The Faith, Have A Nice Day and Runaway are pretty much well known. So now there's 3 other big hits which get ignored and are replaced by other "hits" like Lost Highway, Whole Lot Of Leavin' and We Weren't Born To Follow.

So sure, in a way you get to 15 hits. Sure, it's 15 songs of which 3 are completely irrelevant and result into your typical bathroom-break songs, but sure, 15 hits.

To get to your 24 song setlist there's now room for 9 other songs. Let's say 4 of them are new songs. Then there's 5 songs that could be wildcards. Let's say 2 are covers, there's now room for 3 other songs. And what does Jon Bon Jovi play?


Raise Your Hands
Captain Crash & The Beauty Queen From Mars
Blood On Blood
I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
Because We Can
Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
Amen

For every relatively good song in that list there's one no one cares for (anymore).

But maybe, maybe if you are really lucky, you heard either Always, I'd Die For You, I Got The Girl or These Days.

Considering how the set is now 20 songs long there's just no way you'll ever, ever hear something rare again. This setlist is set in stone. He has no desire and ability to mix things up ever again and unless you're that moron who signs up for "The Experience" and get your kicks out of another rendition of Livin' On A Prayer there's just no reason to go see another Bon Jovi show. Bon Jovi have become the epitome of a weaker Hollywood Remake.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

semigoodlooking 04-05-2021 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1272946)
Aloha !



Jon's pretending a lot here so it fits the bullshit excuses he's made for himself. The last leg in South America had no 24-song setlists with most shows having just under 20 songs. The last time the band played 24 songs was halfway through their European leg. Longer shows were impossible with him nearly dying on stage.

But, yeah, let's say there's 24 songs. Let's say 15 of them are their biggest hits. It still doesn't make sense as he's ignoring about 5 of their biggest hits on a steady basis. Based upon what their biggest hits in the U.S.A. are here's your list:
  1. You Give Love A Bad Name
  2. Livin' On A Prayer
  3. Wanted Dead Or Alive
  4. Bad Medicine
  5. I'll Be There For You
  6. Born To Be My Baby
  7. Lay Your Hands On Me
  8. Living In Sin
  9. In These Arms
  10. Bed Of Roses
  11. Always
  12. This Ain't A Love Song
  13. It's My Life
  14. Who Says You Can't Go Home
  15. (You Want To) Make A Memory

Sure, that's 15 hits. But the 6 songs listed in red are ignored close to every show.

Of these 6 hits, 3 get replaced by smaller hits. Keep The Faith, Have A Nice Day and Runaway are pretty much well known. So now there's 3 other big hits which get ignored and are replaced by other "hits" like Lost Highway, Whole Lot Of Leavin' and We Weren't Born To Follow.

So sure, in a way you get to 15 hits. Sure, it's 15 songs of which 3 are completely irrelevant and result into your typical bathroom-break songs, but sure, 15 hits.

To get to your 24 song setlist there's now room for 9 other songs. Let's say 4 of them are new songs. Then there's 5 songs that could be wildcards. Let's say 2 are covers, there's now room for 3 other songs. And what does Jon Bon Jovi play?


Raise Your Hands
Captain Crash & The Beauty Queen From Mars
Blood On Blood
I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
Because We Can
Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
Amen

For every relatively good song in that list there's one no one cares for (anymore).

But maybe, maybe if you are really lucky, you heard either Always, I'd Die For You, I Got The Girl or These Days.

Considering how the set is now 20 songs long there's just no way you'll ever, ever hear something rare again. This setlist is set in stone. He has no desire and ability to mix things up ever again and unless you're that moron who signs up for "The Experience" and get your kicks out of another rendition of Livin' On A Prayer there's just no reason to go see another Bon Jovi show. Bon Jovi have become the epitome of a weaker Hollywood Remake.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Do you mean the 2017 South American leg? That leg did have shows with 24 songs, I was at one (Velez 2017, 25 songs). Chile a couple of days before, 25 songs. Brazil a couple of days later, 23 songs. Even the Rock in Rio set was 20 songs.

Or, am I missing a leg that happened after?

Agree about the song choices and this interview though. He's making excuses for why can only "sing" certain songs these day.


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