Jon had said everything he was going to say by age 35
After Destination Anywhere Jon never wrote a song that really said anything. The themes were largely recycled and even though some really good songs came after that point, nothing was lyrically original.
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Rubbish.
The themes of IML and Just Older had not been written before. Themes on songs like Last Man Standing, Whole Lot of Leaving, Brokenpromiseland, I'm With You, Room at the End of the World, This House is not for Sale, and Lower the Flag were never touched on pre Destination Anywhere. |
Lower the Flag? American Reckoning?
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Honestly, just sounds more like you stopped paying attention to the lyrics after 1997...
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Without wanting to be a dick, this is demonstrably false lol
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Nope. No bias here folks. The band stopped evolving when rockingguy82 stopped caring.
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This reminds of this thread:
https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-j...e-quit-t70710/ |
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Lower The Flag, American Reckoning, Do What You Can, Blood In The Water, Story Of Love, This House Is Not For Sale/Come On Up To Our House, Living With The Ghost, I Will Drive You Home... that just to mention the last two records. This board has no sense it all. |
This could go down as one of the stupidest threads on JT.
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*these are extremely accurately deduced percentages, please don't question them. |
It's kinda refreshing to see the whole pessimist nostalgia angle being called out. For all the shit you could give Jon (who isn't the sole lyricist in BJ anyway), Bounce with its overtly political lines as well as 2020 (same) were unheard of from Jon in 1997.
And Just Older, and to an even greater extent, God Bless This Mess, showed a lot of realness and mortality in the JBJ universe. Certainly no song from the 90s talked about his voice being shot! |
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But other than that, yeah. Nostalgia is a dangerous drug. I certainly fear how I might idolize the things happening today in 15-20 years from now, because when I see people online doing that (usually in music, but also other forms of entertainment I follow like sports, films, etc.), it looks pathetic. I don't think Jon changed much as a lyricist over the years. He always had some great catchy lyrics and some absolute cringy ones. The topics change, but not the quality. Difference is, he just that he had a much better instrument (his voice) to deliver the passion in those lines. |
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Well, I do love both albums and lyrics but not all that glitters is gold. "These days, the stars ain't out of reach These days, there ain't a ladder on the streets" "I can't write a love song the way I feel today I can't sing no song of hope, I've got nothing to say" "Hey God, tell me what the hell is goin' on It seems like all the good shit's gone It keeps on gettin' harder hangin' on" Of course those were better than what the rock fan was used to. But still those lyrics are far away from being the new Dylan or Bruce. I think Bon Jovi's success always was about the performance. Like you said, In These Arms has cheesy lyrics as well, but Jon performs it like it's a masterpiece. But the more his voice declined, the less he could do new songs justice performance-wise. And that's why we're sitting here for decades saying "that new song xy is terrible but just imagine the 80s/90s Jon singing it - it would've been a hit!". |
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