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Hardly anyone completely sells out a venue these days.
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http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=805893
Bon Jovi's average ticket price is less than Bruce's and Fleetwood Mac's and a fraction of the Stones' average ticket price. |
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Jovi's biggest tour only grossed 210 million (Lost Highway Tour). |
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I'm a Bruce fan too, don't get me wrong, I'm just really sick of you choosing to use the numbers that comfort your thoughts and arguments rather than provide facts. |
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for Bon Jovi Live Tour that started in 2011 The 2 tours had different names so for ticketing gross they cant be added |
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Bon jovi have biggest tour. If you don't like it then tough |
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Pollstar numbers are just an estimate They get data
from band management cos and if they don't have full data they estimate the numbers based on past performances Actual numbers are reported to Billboard prob in few weeks Pollstar is reported Springsteen 2013 gross as $103 million while actual data reported to Billboard by his promoters is about $93 million Full pollstar Midyear report http://www.pollstarpro.com/files/cha...dwideTours.pdf |
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oranges His maximum tkt is about $105 and maximum tkt for Bon Jovi is prob $500 if you disregard VIP packages |
I never expected to see people arguing about Bon Jovi vs. Bruce, who's the best live act. How retard some people are? Anyway, so far regarding to Wiki's data/Billboard's data all shows of Bon Jovi were sold out.
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this whole springsteen comparison is getting reaaly old and boring...i wonder if there is any other band forum where the fans consistently bring up the same "other" artist to put down "their" band...why should springsteen come up in every chance???for gods sake...it ends up look like trolling to me...
the guys are a real force in the touring industry, like it or not. they may not sell many cds now but they keep selling tickets year after year, with all this overtouring, lower new material quality and really high prices... the numbers arenot lying, i m not talking about sold out shows, but the attendance shows the truth... 1.if bj had managed some things better the last decade they would rival u2 touring wise... 2.i was looking into the latest rolling stones tour,50&counting, the guys are in a league of their own...but their north america tour didnt sell as good as everyone expected...high ticket prices and many empty seats in an arena tour...compare the attendances between bj and rolling stones for the same arenas...(althougm i m not sure if rolling stones fans sit behind the stage...) 3.bruces tour reports sound exactly like bjs...bragging about the sold out shows and multiple nights etc...only the names change...so trying to convince us that only bj care about stats doent hold any water... 4. like it or not bj touring wise are on the higher level, up there with the stones madonna u2 and ac dc , acts like metallica, springsteen or coldplay for example are not in the same level. they are able to play stadiums around the world, charging as much as they charge and that speaks volumes... i am not a fan of this band because of the stats but because of the music, having said that i dont get why some people try to put them down with every chance... i dont like wan, i dont like the richie fiasco, philx/bobby, i dont like jons attitude sometimes BUT because we can tour is number one...why should we try to belittle it? |
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**** Springsteen this is a Bon jovi forum.
I like Springsteen ...a lot but **** me shut up about him here!!!! |
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I love both of them too, for different reasons. They can co-exist in the same world... really ;) Both equally awesome for what they do. |
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BTW i admire and love Boss little less than Jovi, but these two are my fav. all time artists :cool: |
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I am not going to go into this much because I am not even sure, but aren't Bruce's tickets more expensive than Bon Jovi's? There are a few praising Springsteen for low prices and I always thought they were higher. Yay or nay? |
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The only reason Springsteen gets compared is to show that Jon Bon has no excuse for his lazy changes and mediocre shows. Springsteen sets the bar, and Jon Bon is nowhere near.
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EDIT - Jovi's ticket's are a lot cheaper in Europe, so maybe the difference isn't as dramatic. I've never bought Bruce tix over there, so I don't know how they compare. |
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It's stupid comparing tours half way through the year anyway. Bon Jovi have played 60 shows and Bruce 31 shows. So it's obvious who would have grossed more. |
MetallicA not as big as Jovi,someone having a laugh here,you try getting a Jovi ticket,dead easy,even Diamond circle,MetallicA,no chance.When did Jovi last sell out the Stade de France,did they even fill Bercy .. ? Just one example .. Plus they don't charge the stupid prices that Jon charges and yes that we are even stupider to pay.
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Bruce's Wrecking Ball tour is still going on, there are few more shows in this month so he'll gross 325 million at least. Imagine if he played another 33 shows.. he would make more money than The Circle Tour and the Bon Jovi Live Tour together. |
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Secondly, usually a band/artist does shows in places where they are demanded. Especially on such massive tours as Wrecking Ball and The Circle/Jovi live, they usually try visiting every place possible. So maybe more shows on a tour just means that the demand was bigger, don't you think? You can say "well, if Bruce had done more shows, then for sure...", who says Jovi couldn't have done the same and had even more shows with more revenue? Not every market is as oversaturated as Europe or US. |
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Lets not fool ourselves into thinking there was much demand for Bon Jovi shows on this tour. Apart from American arenas I can't think of many places that sold particularly well. Bruce has toured for two years and can still sell out two huge London dates within the space of a few weeks. That's demand. I think we should all wait until full tour figures come out to start comparing too much though. |
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Jon knew beforehand though that there's no way he'd have been able to sell as many tickets or promote it the way he did without a Greatest Hits to promote the tour, especially considering how poorly The Circle was received in Europe with it being the first Bon Jovi record that actually really tanked compared to albums before. A band doesn't need to change the name of a tour just because a Greatest Hits was released, but the 2011 performances were billed that way just so people knew Greatest Hits and more would get played. In the end though, Bon Jovi fans seem to be brainwashed by the Bon Jovi number 1 tour propaganda nonsense. Bruce, among other artists, don't have the ridiculous VIP Diamond Circle packages. It'd be a lot more interesting to see who played for the most people in every area. Considering how Bruce did 3 in Italy while Bon Jovi couldn't sell out San Siro and Bruce did 9 shows in Scandinavia where Bon Jovi could barely do 4 in much smaller venues I'd say all this number 1 tour isn't showing who's the biggest act out there anymore. It's merely the one who's best at milking money out of their fanbase in the best way possible. The only way Bon Jovi would be able to do more shows in Europe would be if they'd actually lower their fee, which would in return would mean a lower profit and numbers closer to the ones from Bruce. And even then I don't think Bon Jovi are actually capable of doing 9 shows in Scandinavia. This tour has been a cluster**** saleswise, and Jon knows it all too well. Also, I think you're seriously underestimating Metallica's popularity in Europe. The difference is that they actually play the venues they can sell out, hence them playing stadiums with a capacity of 30.000 peope and not needing to rely on Groupon deals and the likes. Bon Jovi sells the same amount of tickets per show, yet plays in venues holding 50.000 people, thus not selling out any show at all anymore. Sure, they make more money, but the atmosphere at a Metallica show is very much like the atmosphere at a Bon Jovi show 10 years ago, when Bon Jovi did the same. Salaam Aleikum, Sebastiaan |
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I think it's close enough...
Bon Jovi Concerts: 60 North America: 36 South Africa: 2 Europe: 22 Total = 1,486,726 tickets sold North America and Africa = 657,318 tickets sold Europe = 829,408 Tickets sold Total Gross 74.0 million > 22 concerts Average Price = 89,2 USD Average crowd per concert = 37,700 Bruce Springsteen Concerts: 31 Australia: 10 Europe: 21 Total = 969,504 Tickets sold Australia = 153,144 Tickets sold Europe = 816,360 Tickets sold 78.6 million > 21 concerts Average Price = 96,2 USD Average crowd per concert = 38,874 -d21336e6285d5c69.JPG |
Bruce sold out his shows in Australia and everyone I spoke to who went said it was one of the best concerts they had been to.
I hate the highest grossing comparison stuff. $ and more shows doesn't always equal quality. |
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And if I'm honest it was really hard not to sit there afterwards and compare it to what Jon does. But honestly, they are two very different people. I'm more than happy for them to co-exist in the same world and enjoy both acts. |
I don't need to go to a Bruce website, I learn everything about him on this forum!
A positive article about the band, can we enjoy? of course not, here comes the comparisons. |
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