"New Music Friday" has been created in 2015, that's why.

Actually THINFS was played on BBC radio2 a day earlier (Augsut 11), but we already got a teaser 15 seconds four days before (Tuesday 9). Jon made a countdown with photos, therefore, we knew that single was going to be released that week. Also the tracklist of the album was filtered but without order.

Because We Can premiere was from streaming on the official BJ web site (January 7 /2013)

Yep, that's what I meant. Like it was the case with BBC radio, there's often an exclusive deal with some radio station that plays it earlier or with WWWU, where Jon promoted it on Howard Stern and told him to play it in full. So I guess we'd be knowing about the upcoming single earlier than Friday. Be it either some teaser, snippet or a radio station announcing it.

It's not going to come out when this promo is still running and the fact that a full version was on the server means more and more is going to be released without vocals. There's zero reason to hope for it to come out until this promo is done and reaches it's peak.

Ngl the guy who entered the competition whilst doing bicep curls cracked me up

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8ZQwSCn_Cz/
If you read, it says:
"BEFORE YOU HEAR
HOW JON DID IT"
but I would'nt be surprised if they lie to us... right in our faces >_< jaja

HEAVY METAL

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8d2mIch...=13w6c9tg9oume

Well... actually that was the best video until now >_< jajajaja
So sweet dreams... I mean Jovi dreams >_< Jajajajaja or Ha Ha Ha! >_< jajajaja

End of Feb! Thanks!

Ronan Keating (Boyzone twat) is also releasing an album called 2020.

... and Richard Marx's new album, released last week, is called Limitless.

Was it around this time last week Jon posted the competition video? I wonder if we'll hear something else shortly

Exactly one week ago


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This acoustic cover sound cool

Gotta say I'm REALLY impressed with this idea to get fans involved in how they think the song goes.

I was thinking the same thing today. I haven't seen a stunt like this before from any other artist. This may be the first good social media idea from the Jovi camp.

another pretty cover

This one, come up with the lyrics in the 1st verse... trying to predict the kind of lyrics that they would write given the title.

Not to my taste, way too much horrendous Limitless's at the end.
I think the idea is very fun, 'cause the videos are entertaining; but I really hope JBJ comes and sings a proper vocals like the cool rock star sometimes he is.
And of course those videos of fans will go straight to the trash hihi.

That one's pretty decent. His lyrics aren't half-bad.

Jon dyed his hair. Back to being blonde again.

https://www.facebook.com/thehowardst...xMTY3NTUzOTMz/

Anyway, really looking forward to the new album and to the 2020 tour. Hopefully it hits Europe next year and not in 2022.

That was 2014.


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Going to Europe only two years after the last time would be bad business. It was the oversaturation that diluted the demand for Bon Jovi in the 2000s, I don't think they will repeat the same mistake again. 2022 is the earliest possible date, I wouldn't mind it even later, to be honest.

I don't think Jon will be able to get any voice out in 2022 anymore, judging by the progress of his vocal decline...

I can't see them being able to fill big stadiums in the next 1 or 2 years either. Even with the 6-year break, only half of the shows were selling out nicely and the other half wasn't. Now keep in mind that this band hasn't had proper radio exposure to the average Joe in the last decade, so they're not really in the public eye anymore and on top of that, they alienated quite a chunk of the crowd on the last tour with Jon's voice, so I'm not sure they'd be coming back either.

All of what you said here is true, but I didn't say if they take more years they will fill the stadiums like it's 2001 again or something. My point is that whatever is their drawing ability now, it will go down the more frequently they come to a specific market (in this case, Europe). 2023 or 2022 might be worse ticket-wise than in 2019, but it will certainly be better than coming back in 2021.

True. My point was that the strong ticket sales in some cities in 2019 (like Munich or London) actually camouflaged a bit of what their current drawing ability is due to their long abscence prior.

I feel like if they want to come back any time soon it'll need to be arenas in most if not all areas. Nothing wrong with that, not many rock bands so stadia over here. Slipknot are way more relevant these days than BJ but they only do festivals and arenas, and they had an actual number 1 album last year.

What makes you say that? I disagree.

On Spotify, Bon Jovi currently has 15.5m monthly listeners, Slipnot has 7.1m and their number is a bit skewed by the fact that their new album you mentioned is only a few months old.

Additionally, I compared their google trends and, while Slipknot does seem to get more traction on their new releases, Bon Jovi seems to trend a bit higher.
https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...not,bon%20jovi

That's no knock on Slipknot, they are doing extremely well for the genre they're in. But Bon Jovi still occupies a larger piece of mainstream (due to their music being more suitable to masses), even if it's much lower than it used to be.

If they want to regain that stadium touring status, 2 things (really 3 things) need to happen...

1. Richie needs to come back. Phil is a great guitar player but that's where it ends... Richie is a missing void. His overall presence is missing as the second face of the band but he's also the second voice that just completes the songs... Jon could get away with so much more vocally if Richie was there filling his gaps... Ditch Shanks, move Phil over, and bring back Richie... That would be awesome and they would actually look like a rock band again.

2. Jon needs to completely restructure their live shows and regain some of his vocals back. Every trick in the book is being used and it's very noticeable. Terrible set lists with flat songs, the songs are slowed down and Jon still sings behind them, the way he dodges notes with horribly pronounced wording. You're waiting for those little moments to happen and they are just not there anymore.

3. Jon should work on his look a little. As an entertainer who built his image for 30 plus years being a sex symbol, it's definitely hurting him. When you combine Jon looking like a homeless guy with the above two points, it definitely doesn't help things. It makes people think, what the hell happened to them? A guy who looks 70 pulling a 20 year old on stage during bed of roses is not coming across cute anymore either. He could go in the opposite direction and take 10 years off. He's still in great shape and his face isn't old... I feel like I'm looking at a 50 year old Jon, wearing a bad Halloween wig to look like he's 70.

I've actually spoken to multiple people who have attended shows and they all give that same feedback... They just shake their heads and give that nah look. It's not how they remember it and that is now their last show.

I remember complaining back in 2013 and I just recently watched San Jose with Phil. I almost passed out, Jon was so great even back then... but that was also 7 years ago. A lot has definitely changed.

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I just listened to a couple of these fan videos of Limitless to get a sense of the song. Holy shit. This could be the worst song of all time. Those lyrics read like what somebody would write if they were trying to parody the worst elements of Bon Jovi.

Today is the last day of the contest, so we can soon find out what the new single is like.

I guess I meant within the sphere of rock and metal, not pop culture as a whole. I always forget quite how much songs like Prayer still permeate culture. The reason I referenced Slipknot is that the music they release now is still widely acclaimed and relevant, however clearly not to the extent that it surpasses bands like BJ even now.

Theoretically Limitless should come out at the end of this month.

Haven't logged in on the forum for ages, but now I have to.
Regarding points 2 and 3, guys, people do get older, people age, just accept it.

I agree with most of point 3 though. Mainly the 'Bed Of Roses' part. It's creepy, cringe and a bit disgusting. That's all down to how he looks now, though. He looks like a creepy old man but he won't stop that part of the song as it's probably the only reason he plays it now...

In regards to point 2. I mean, yeah, but none of that will change.

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Is Jon’s voice beyond repair? This is the main sticking point here. You fix the voice you fix the problem. Can anyone with any knowledge ascertain for me if this is fixable with surgery?


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Yes, it is. You can see him going through hell up there since at least the mid of 2013 and if it was something he could've gotten fixed, he'd probably have done it by now.
In fact, there are theories floating around here that he had something (similar to Paul Stanley) done to his pipes in late 2016 (after the promo shows) that ****ed it up even more because his overall tone has been very unnatural ever since they went on tour in early 2017.

To be honest I don't get how the vocal issue is still discussed these days. Jon's voice 's been on the downside for 15 years now. Back in 2005 it was barely noticeable (in my non expert opinion) but as a fan used to watching live shows you saw the flaws. But Jon's looked in such pain while singing (for beyond poor results) over the last 5 years that I can't believe there's something to do to to fix that he wouldn't have tried.

Poison, Motley Cruel, Def Leppard, Guns N Roses, Aerosmith, Metallica have all aged as rock stars and most have lost something vocally but still somehow managed to keep it real.

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