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rocknation 03-22-2020 01:08 AM

Dave Says He's got the Corona Virus!!!
 
DavidBryanMusic on Instagram:
I just got my results back today and tested positive for corona virus. I’ve been sick for a week and feeling better each day. Please don’t be afraid!!! It’s the flu not the plague. I’ve have been quarantined for a week and will for another week. And when I feel better I’ll get tested again to make sure I’m free of this nasty virus. Please help out each other. This will be over soon... with the help of every American !!

TheseDaysEra 03-22-2020 02:06 AM

just saw this. hope he gets over it. He's not a kid anymore but he hardly falls in the 'risk' group either, I reckon, unless he has any health issues we're not aware of ? Anyways, hope not. Get better soon Dave.

angelsambo 03-22-2020 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1262502)
[B]. Please don’t be afraid!!! It’s the flu not the plague

what an irresponsible comment

Walleris 03-22-2020 08:34 AM

I'm sure he will manage. If this was Tico I'd be a lot more worried.

richiefan95 03-22-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1262509)
what an irresponsible comment

Can fully agree. Italy has the biggest crisis since the world war. 800 people died only yesterday. In my home in Austria everybody has to stay home and is only allowed for work and shopping to go out and Dave puts out such a stupid statement.

JoviForever 03-22-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by richiefan95 (Post 1262511)
Can fully agree. Italy has the biggest crisis since the world war. 800 people died only yesterday. In my home in Austria everybody has to stay home and is only allowed for work and shopping to go out and Dave puts out such a stupid statement.

I think that’s a bit harsh. He’s not telling people to carry on as normal like some stupid celebrities. I think he’s trying to stop people from panicking. Of course there are people not as lucky as him as he must have relatively mild symptoms but I wouldn’t call him stupid.

NicoRourke 03-22-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1262509)
what an irresponsible comment

Yes, it made me react as well, it's even more irresponsible considering his platform.

JackieBlue 03-22-2020 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoviForever (Post 1262515)
I think that’s a bit harsh. He’s not telling people to carry on as normal like some stupid celebrities. I think he’s trying to stop people from panicking. Of course there are people not as lucky as him as he must have relatively mild symptoms but I wouldn’t call him stupid.

I agree. There's a big difference between saying "Don't be afraid" and saying "Don't be cautious". People seem to forget that for the vast majority of those who get the virus, the symptoms are mild. With the media primarily focusing only on the worst case scenarios, people are panicking. According to the medical experts (when their comments aren't filtered through the press), if people exercise normal health precautions, the majority will be fine.

semigoodlooking 03-23-2020 02:15 AM

I took it to mean he was telling fans not to be afraid on his behalf. Like, "Don't worry, I am recovering". Either way, who's looking to their rockstars for responsible comments?

TheseDaysEra 03-23-2020 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1262509)
what an irresponsible comment

I know what he meant. It was probably just a poor choice of words but he oughta be careful, he's a celebrity and words influence people. Or it could have been the case that Dave's just another one of THOSE who claim Covid19 is 'just another flu' - it's not. Either way, he oughta rectify that post.

rocknation 03-24-2020 09:01 PM

3/24/20 update
 
https://rocktivity.com/bj/daveSick2020.jpg
A pale, thin-looking Dave talks with Dana Perino:
https://rocktivity.com/bj/daveSick2020.webm

Remember back when he had that parasitic infection, was bedridden for four months, and had to be treated with a drug containing arsenic? I hope it didn't compromise his immune system...

YOVANAfromPeru 03-24-2020 11:18 PM

Oh My God! David looks very thin...

rocknation 03-25-2020 05:55 PM

3/25/2020 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1262599)
Oh My God! David looks very thin...

In a subsequent Instagram, which he claims was taken BEFORE the interview, Dave looks a little healthier:

https://rocktivity.com/bj/daveSick02_2020.jpg

angelsambo 04-03-2020 09:47 PM

Bon Jovi's David Bryan talks surviving coronavirus, upcoming tour

https://nj1015.com/bon-jovis-david-b...upcoming-tour/

rocknation 04-03-2020 10:36 PM

4/2/2020 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1262938)
Bon Jovi's David Bryan talks surviving coronavirus, upcoming tour
https://nj1015.com/bon-jovis-david-b...upcoming-tour/

Here's a direct link to the video:


rocknation 04-05-2020 12:25 AM

4/4/20 Tweet From Dave
 
https://twitter.com/dbdavidbryan/sta...2809020448772/
Thanx!!!
Day 20...Feeling better...(N)ot 100%...But getting there :-)

rocknation 04-05-2020 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1262596)
Remember back when (Dave) had that parasitic infection, was bedridden for four months, and had to be treated with a drug containing arsenic? I hope it didn't compromise his immune system...

Newsweek:
Researchers at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia have discovered that the antiparasitic drug Ivermectin can inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2, the virus the causes COVID-19, according to a study published (4/3/2020)...

"Ivermectin is very widely used and seen as a safe drug. We need to figure out now whether the dosage you can use it at in humans will be effective—that's the next step," said the study's leader..."We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA by 48 hours, and that even at 24 hours, there was a really significant reduction..."

jazzsta 04-05-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by richiefan95 (Post 1262511)

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1262509)

Quote:

Please don’t be afraid!!! It’s the flu not the plague.
what an irresponsible comment


Can fully agree. Italy has the biggest crisis since the world war. 800 people died only yesterday. In my home in Austria everybody has to stay home and is only allowed for work and shopping to go out and Dave puts out such a stupid statement.


Why are you people so afraid of words ?? Let everybody say what he thinks and each person can draw their own conclusions.

In support of David Bryan, here is a list of distinguished academics that share a similar view and moreover think that the shutdown can be worse for public health:


Dr John Ioannidis, professor of Medicine, of Health Research and Policy and of Biomedical Data Science, at Stanford University School of Medicine and a Professor of Statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences. He is director of the Stanford Prevention Research Center, and co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS).

Dr. David Katz is an American physician and founding director of the Yale University Prevention Research Center.

Dr Sucharit Bhakdi, specialist in Microbiology. He was a professor at the Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz (Germany) and head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology and Hygiene and one of the most cited research scientists in German history.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor of Epidemiology at the University of Oxford. She is a recipient of the Sahitya Akademi Award

Dr Michael Levitt, is Professor of biochemistry at Stanford University. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society (FRS), a member of the National Academy of Sciences and received the 2013 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for the development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems.

Frank Ulrich Montgomery, German radiologist, former President of the German Medical Association and Deputy Chairman of the World Medical Association.

Dr Didier Raoult, director of the Research Unit in Infectious and Tropical Emergent Diseases in Marseille (France), collaborating with CNRS (National Center for the Scientific Research), IRD (Research for the Development Institute), INSERM (National Institute of Health and Medical Research) and the Aix Marseille University.

Prof. Hendrik Streeck, German HIV researcher, epidemiologist and clinical trialist. He is professor of virology, and the director of the Institute of Virology and HIV Research, at Bonn University.

Dr Pablo Goldschmidt, Argentine-French virologist specializing in tropical diseases, and Professor of Molecular Pharmacology at the Université Pierre et Marie Curie in Paris.

Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, German physician specializing in Pulmonology, politician and former chairman of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. In 2009 he called for an inquiry into alleged conflicts of interest surrounding the EU response to the Swine Flu pandemic.

Dr Joel Kettner, professor of Community Health Sciences and Surgery at Manitoba University, former Chief Public Health Officer for Manitoba province and Medical Director of the International Centre for Infectious Diseases.

Dr Eran Bendavid and Dr Jay Bhattacharya, professors of medicine and public health at Stanford University.

Dr Yoram Lass, Israeli physician, politician and former Director General of the Health Ministry. He also worked as Associate Dean of the Tel Aviv University Medical School.

Dr Pietro Vernazza, Swiss physician specializing at Infectious Diseases at the Cantonal Hospital St. Gallen and Professor of Health Policy.

Dr Peter Goetzsche, professor of Clinical Research Design and Analysis at the University of Copenhagen (Denmark) and founder of the Cochrane Medical Collaboration.

Dr Karin Mölling, German virologist whose research focused on retroviruses, particularly human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). She was a full professor and director of the Institute of Medical Virology at the University of Zurich from 1993 until her retirement in 2008 and received multiple honours and awards for her work.

Dr Anders Tegnell, Swedish physician and civil servant who has been State Epidemiologist of the Public Health Agency of Sweden since 2013. Dr Tegnell graduated from medical school in 1985, specializing in infectious disease. He later obtained a PhD in Medical Science from Linköping University in 2003 and an MSc in 2004.

Dr Knut M. Wittkowski, professor at the Center for Clinical and Translational Science of the Rockefeller University, New York.

Supersonic 04-05-2020 10:34 AM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzsta (Post 1262982)
Why are you people so afraid of words ?? Let everybody say what he thinks and each person can draw their own conclusions.

In support of David Bryan, here is a list of distinguished academics that share a similar view and moreover think that the shutdown can be worse for public health:

Dr John Ioannidis, professor of Medicine, of Health Research and Policy and of Biomedical Data Science, at Stanford University School of Medicine and a Professor of Statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences. He is director of the Stanford Prevention Research Center, and co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS).

Dr. David Katz is an American physician and founding director of the Yale University Prevention Research Center.

Dr Sucharit Bhakdi, specialist in Microbiology. He was a professor at the Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz (Germany) and head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology and Hygiene and one of the most cited research scientists in German history.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor of Epidemiology at the University of Oxford. She is a recipient of the Sahitya Akademi Award

Dr Michael Levitt, is Professor of biochemistry at Stanford University. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society (FRS), a member of the National Academy of Sciences and received the 2013 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for the development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems.

Frank Ulrich Montgomery, German radiologist, former President of the German Medical Association and Deputy Chairman of the World Medical Association.

Dr Didier Raoult, director of the Research Unit in Infectious and Tropical Emergent Diseases in Marseille (France), collaborating with CNRS (National Center for the Scientific Research), IRD (Research for the Development Institute), INSERM (National Institute of Health and Medical Research) and the Aix Marseille University.

Prof. Hendrik Streeck, German HIV researcher, epidemiologist and clinical trialist. He is professor of virology, and the director of the Institute of Virology and HIV Research, at Bonn University.

Dr Pablo Goldschmidt, Argentine-French virologist specializing in tropical diseases, and Professor of Molecular Pharmacology at the Université Pierre et Marie Curie in Paris.

Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, German physician specializing in Pulmonology, politician and former chairman of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. In 2009 he called for an inquiry into alleged conflicts of interest surrounding the EU response to the Swine Flu pandemic.

Dr Joel Kettner, professor of Community Health Sciences and Surgery at Manitoba University, former Chief Public Health Officer for Manitoba province and Medical Director of the International Centre for Infectious Diseases.

Dr Eran Bendavid and Dr Jay Bhattacharya, professors of medicine and public health at Stanford University.

Dr Yoram Lass, Israeli physician, politician and former Director General of the Health Ministry. He also worked as Associate Dean of the Tel Aviv University Medical School.

Dr Pietro Vernazza, Swiss physician specializing at Infectious Diseases at the Cantonal Hospital St. Gallen and Professor of Health Policy.

Dr Peter Goetzsche, professor of Clinical Research Design and Analysis at the University of Copenhagen (Denmark) and founder of the Cochrane Medical Collaboration.

Dr Karin Mölling, German virologist whose research focused on retroviruses, particularly human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). She was a full professor and director of the Institute of Medical Virology at the University of Zurich from 1993 until her retirement in 2008 and received multiple honours and awards for her work.

Dr Anders Tegnell, Swedish physician and civil servant who has been State Epidemiologist of the Public Health Agency of Sweden since 2013. Dr Tegnell graduated from medical school in 1985, specializing in infectious disease. He later obtained a PhD in Medical Science from Linköping University in 2003 and an MSc in 2004.

Dr Knut M. Wittkowski, professor at the Center for Clinical and Translational Science of the Rockefeller University, New York.

Cool. Great list. Besides copying the list of names, have you read what they've said? There's a bit of subtlety in between a yes for a shutdown and a supposedly no, it's not as black and white as you make it out to be. And no, that list is not "in support of David Bryan". In the end it's not got much with this not calling it the flu though and why it's an idiotic statement to make. Besides half of the world currently disagreeing with your list here's an image that shows why "We're so afraid of words" and why they're wrong.

https://i.imgur.com/NjWql93.jpg

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

jazzsta 04-05-2020 12:37 PM

I will not further derail the discussion.

I just point out that yes there is a lot of subtlety to discuss about the actual threat that the virus poses and the actual consequences of our responses.

But this discussion is not taking place. 95% of people take for granted a certain kind of black and any argument towards something more ... grey, is instantly perceived as white.

The meme which you provided attests for this mono-dimensional understanding of the situation.

We shall not discuss further here, but I urge the people to be informed about different opinions on this (and any) subject. Even more-so when they come from people that are recognized as "experts" (since we value expertise that much in our current culture).

Cheers everyone and be well :)


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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1262983)
Aloha !



Cool. Great list. Besides copying the list of names, have you read what they've said? There's a bit of subtlety in between a yes for a shutdown and a supposedly no, it's not as black and white as you make it out to be. And no, that list is not "in support of David Bryan". In the end it's not got much with this not calling it the flu though and why it's an idiotic statement to make. Besides half of the world currently disagreeing with your list here's an image that shows why "We're so afraid of words" and why they're wrong.

https://i.imgur.com/NjWql93.jpg

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan


JackieBlue 04-05-2020 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzsta (Post 1262984)
...I just point out that yes there is a lot of subtlety to discuss about the actual threat that the virus poses and the actual consequences of our responses.

But this discussion is not taking place. 95% of people take for granted a certain kind of black and any argument towards something more ... grey, is instantly perceived as white... I urge the people to be informed about different opinions on this (and any) subject...

Cheers everyone and be well :)

For the record, I'm with you. :cool:

I would only add that people who are truly concerned should probably look to sources other than mainstream news broadcasts for information. Those outlets are geared toward sensationalism, and typically present only the facts (often taken out of context) that support their agendas. They tend to downplay, or totally disregard, anything that might shine a different light on the subject.

I see nothing irresponsible in what David has said to date. I'm still not sure why people object to comments that offer some reassurance, but don't deny the seriousness of the situation or the need for caution. IMO, we need to be reminded that not everyone will be infected; not everyone who is infected will die; and, in the vast majority of cases, those who are infected will experience mild symptoms, if any.

Captain_jovi 04-05-2020 07:52 PM

I agree in that it's not about whether or not you'll get it and the symptoms, it's if you will pass it to someone who is unable to take it on with weaker immunities. That's the real fear.

JackieBlue 04-05-2020 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1262988)
I agree in that it's not about whether or not you'll get it and the symptoms, it's if you will pass it to someone who is unable to take it on with weaker immunities. That's the real fear.

Agreed; and that's why people are encouraged to stay home, practice social distancing, self-quarantine, and self-isolate. David clearly says he followed the guidelines. He cautions that it's not something to be taken lightly, and tells everyone to stay home. I don't see how that translates to being irresponsible. To me it seems more like he's just letting people know there's a middle ground that lies somewhere between panic and blowing it all off as nonsense or pretending it doesn't exist.

But then, as jazzsta indicated, a lot of people wouldn't recognize "middle ground" if they walked on it for days. :)

YOVANAfromPeru 04-06-2020 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1262983)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-cyBZdBWE7/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-dIKh_hNWX/

rocknation 04-15-2020 08:22 PM

4/15/20 Instagram Update
 
https://scontent.fewr1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...16&oe=5EBB7F24
Today is one month and 3 days of Corona! Finally feeling great again. Thanks for all your well wishes and especially thanks to all the doctors, nurses, first responders, grocery workers and all on the front lines! The true rock stars! ��
What a relief!

rocknation 04-20-2020 01:04 AM

Dave Bryan Update 4/19/2020
 
Quote:

Instagram:
Got my test back today. Thankfully I’m Covid-19 negative!

5 weeks to the day that I got sick... I’m a very lucky guy! ⭐️ There are people who have no symptoms, people who got sick (like me), people fighting for their lives and people who sadly have lost their lives. This is a nasty virus BUT science/medicine will conquer all.

Thank you to all for your well wishes. Thank you to all the Doctors and Nurses and all on the front lines. You are the true heroes! ✨

Thank you for the official closure, Lemma -- but just a precaution, you should test at least twice more over the next four to six weeks!

Here's why: Recovered and negative-tested people have re-tested as positive; and, as you said, you can be contagious without experiencing any symptoms. There's no telling how many others you and your wife have helped infect BEFORE you actually started feeling sick. Without a vaccine, medication, or a cure available, the only way to "conquer" this virus is to find and quarantine the people who are in the earliest stages of infection -- and the only way to do that is to test EVERYONE (social distancing started four months too late).

Fortunately, a mass testing method that is inexpensive to reproduce and simple to administer has just been granted U.S. government approval. Its rollout has begun in New Jersey, of all places, and if it can be rolled out fast enough nationally, the spread of the virus could be halted in plenty of time for a vaccine to deliver the knockout punch!

rocknation 04-23-2020 03:22 AM

4/22/2020 Update
 
Closure accomplished: The Joker is definitely alive and well and out of his sick bed LOL

https://rocktivity.com/bj/daveXcorvid.jpg

rickysambo 04-27-2020 03:24 PM


David Bryan shows up at 11 minutes in.
[His daughter Gabby {seen here} is a sidekick on the YWKD podcast]


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