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José Antonio 05-30-2004 10:04 PM

Hugh McDonald and Alec John Such
 
Hi everyone!

I was checking out hueymcdonald.com and corfirmed something that a friend of
mine told me: Hugh McDonald has played in all of the Bon Jovi albums (Except
in "7800° Fahrenheit").Unfortunate his work wasn't recognized until 1995
in "These Days", in the previous albums he didn't appear on the credits,
just in the "Thanks" section, Why? I don't know, but I think it was unfair,
'cause, yes he was payed for, but in this life the money ain't everything,
he should be recognized as a player in those albums as another ones
were in "Bon Jovi" and "New Jersey" for example.Obviously when he played
in the studio recording Alec John Such didn't, so I'd say the "bass work"
in those albums was made 50% by Alec John Such and 50% by Hugh McDonald.
Yes, it's true that in all of the concerts and shows since 1984 to 1995
Alec John Such was the only one who played the bass,but in studio he wasn't.
In addition Huey wrote some bass lines and arranges, and (as I know) Alec
never wrote an arrange or bass lines.What am I trying to say? Simple, Huey
McDonald must be recognized as an official member.Maybe you're thinking:
Alec John Such were with the band 10 long years, but Huey has played with BJ
13 LONG years and since 1995 he is in the shows, Huey HAS DONE MORE
for BJ than what Alec John Such did. JBJ said once Huey is MUCH BETTER than
Alec, and it's true; he said too: Alec John Such was a great friend, and a
friend can never be replaced, but we don't want Jon Bon Jovi to replace his
friendship with AJS, just to recognize HM as a member.It's true that Huey
plays with another bands, but I think when Huey become a Bon Jovi
Official Member he'll know he should not play anymore with those bands, just
with Bon Jovi.And if Jon wants to, not to take pictures of Huey alone, like
the pictures of Richie, David & Tico in "This Left Feels Right" for example,
I think it be... ok.But take pictures and photos with him (I mean that in
the cd covers should appear photos of Jon, Richie, David, Tico and Huey
together, but not of Huey alone if Jon doesn't want to).Personaly I think
Huey is better than Alec, so all this would be fair.I know that this depends
on Jon and not on Huey, but if we ALL let know Jon we want Huey to become an
offical member he will recognize him, I'm sure of that, after all to Jon we
are the most important after his family.I invite you to join that idea
by making big posters of "HUEY FOR MEMBER", "BON JOVI: JON BON JOVI,
RICHIE SAMBORA, DAVID BRYAN, TICO TORRES & HUGH MCDONALD" or something like
that and take them to the BJ shows, other idea is to send an e-amil to
bonjovi.com asking Huey for member, signed for ALL of us.I know it sounds
impossible and hard to do but it is not, TOGETHER NOTHING'S IMPOSSIBLE.
Well, I hope you understood my message and join me.

Your friend José Antonio.

P.S. I'm sorry about my english, but it is not my first language and I'm
still learning.I'm from Mexico (Where the main language is the Spanish)

P.S. 2 If you couldn't understand what I tried to say and speak spanish,
send me an e-mail (joseavm87@hotmail.com) or a private message and I'll
explain it to you in spanish.

P.S. 3 Don't forget visit: http://www.bonjovi.com
http://www.richiesambora.com http://www.davidbryan.com
http://www.ticotorres.com http://www.HUEYMCDONALD.com and
http://www.drycounty.com . THANKS :)

Keeper 05-30-2004 10:12 PM

Erm... I was going to show you the link to a similar discussion we had recently and saw that you had started it!

Here's the link to your own topic :?

http://drycounty.com/jovitalk/viewtopic.php?t=26080

Javier 05-30-2004 10:37 PM

This discussion is burnt out, but anyways, good luck with your erm..
Huey for membership in BJ campain.

Sambo-Chris 05-31-2004 12:18 AM

Re: Hugh McDonald and Alec John Such
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by José Antonio
that and take them to the BJ shows, other idea is to send an e-amil to bonjovi.com

What has the record company to do with this? Absolutely nothing. It is a contract between Jon and Hugh and not with the record company.

And if Hugh was unhappy with the situation he had stopped making contracts with Jon long ago. And who cares what stands in their contract? It's absolutely not our business but only and absolutely only theirs. What would be the difference if they would make a contract in that stands that Hugh is official member? The only difference is that Hugh would have more work for BJ with photo shoots and would have to sit in interviews as decoration like David and Tico do. Probably not very interesting. He wants to have time to work with other artists.

I don't understand why it is THAT important for so many fans what stands in Hugh's and Jon's contract.

Captain Walrus 05-31-2004 01:26 AM

Dude, its not like Hughs gonna be a more recognised member just cos your a little angry about it. Besides, to me he's an official member, and thats all that matters really

Keep On Rockin'

ps. Thanks for the links. www.drycounty.com? Never heard of it

Jim Bon Jovi 05-31-2004 02:50 AM

He got paid, he's a session muso that's what he does.

He may not be on the playing credits on the sleeve but he sure as hell will be on the ASCAP form and if Alec is on it then Hugh will have been paid much more as a result.

No one signs a contract that they don't want to so why start bitching?


and who cares if he;s officially regarded as a member or not? again he wouldn't be there if he didn't want to b. It would probably go against him cos as it stands: he's still a session player that can will get alot of work. if he's officially part of Bon Jovi i'd put money ont he work trailing off cos he'd be too busy and he wouldnt be regarded as a proper session guy either anymore.

Richie does sessios, so does noel gallagher, so do many guys in full time bands but they're not regarded as full sessioners and dont get called up as often.

Twister 05-31-2004 08:13 AM

First of all, bienvenido, José Antonio

It's good to have some compatriots here... If you want, you can add me at MSN (twistercorp@hotmail.com)

I know your intention is good... but learn that you alone cannot do anything against this rotten machinery that our world has become....

But still, congratulations for the initiative!!

thesedays2003 05-31-2004 12:37 PM

Something else that I don't think has been mentioned... if Hugh wrote the bass line to LOAP then surely he should be one of the writers of the song, coz the bass line and vox is the main riff to the song. Any ideas? :D

Sambo-Chris 05-31-2004 01:21 PM

It was the Keep the faith bassline but anyway. I wonder, too, esp. since Jon said once that everyone who is somehow involved in a song is mentioned as the writer. Hugh isn't on KTF.

thesedays2003 05-31-2004 01:35 PM

A year later, Slippery When Wet, the band's third album, transformed Bon Jovi into superstars and MTV favorites, thanks in part to the memorable McDonald bass hook that opens the smash hit "Livin' on a Prayer". "That bass line went through a lot of changes," recalls McDonald. "Originally, it sounded like the intro to the Four Tops' 'I Can't Help Myself (Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch)'. Bruce Fairbairn, who produced the album, noticed the similarity, and so did everyone else. So Richie, Jon and I worked until we came up with the line you hear on the record."
Off his website


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