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BonJovi100 03-30-2016 09:10 PM

Anyone else see any similarities betwen these songs:
1) BJ - Kidnap An Angel
https://youtu.be/aQ6W2mKyXmk?t=5m1s
2) T.Swift - Out Of The Woods
https://youtu.be/JLf9q36UsBk?t=2m33s

;> When I first listened Taylor Song I was like hmm I know that bridge!

jovifan93 03-31-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BonJovi100 (Post 1199908)
Anyone else see any similarities betwen these songs:
1) BJ - Kidnap An Angel
https://youtu.be/aQ6W2mKyXmk?t=5m1s
2) T.Swift - Out Of The Woods
https://youtu.be/JLf9q36UsBk?t=2m33s

;> When I first listened Taylor Song I was like hmm I know that bridge!

I neither see the similarity not the point, since this thread is about Jon stealing from others and Kidnap An Angel was probably written when Taylor Swift was in diapers ;-)

Old Joysey 10-26-2016 03:50 AM

Just read a comment signaling similarities between LOAP and Candy's Going Bad by Golden Earring (a band from the early 60s still in action today)


soundfire624 10-26-2016 04:14 AM

I think it'd be harsh to say he stealing..
if he steal it how come no body sued him?Bon Jovi is a rich band they can get money from Bon Jovi..I am sure they didnt break any rules of copyright n stuff..

similarity ? maybe..but stealing it..no F way

how many chords we have in music..and how many songs that spreads in this universe...i'm pretty sure it doesnt take a genius to see that.. :p

Old Joysey 10-26-2016 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by soundfire624 (Post 1211645)
similarity ? maybe..but stealing it..no F way

You obviously never heard Jon say he stole a song from Brooooooce?! :lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7G1...youtu.be&t=32s

Captain_jovi 10-26-2016 05:22 AM

Jon has said in interviews, jokingly, that he's stolen from songs. He does it. It's not coincidence. Obviously with so many chords overlaps will happen but it's clear as day when some songs are inspirations for Bon Jovi songs.

soundfire624 10-26-2016 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1211669)
Jon has said in interviews, jokingly, that he's stolen from songs. He does it. It's not coincidence. Obviously with so many chords overlaps will happen but it's clear as day when some songs are inspirations for Bon Jovi songs.

i think i understand what he meant by "stole it" but it's not in exact copy and stuff...and i'm sure the original one also has the idea from another song also..i am a song writer also..and sometime some chords from another song speaks to you and we can write it in different music...

if he did that there's no way you can be sued coz it's not illegal...unless you copy them exactly like the original..it's different case..IMO

Captain_jovi 10-26-2016 01:30 PM

There are just too many examples of songs being a little TOO similar in order for us to believe that (My Chemical Romance's I'm Not Okay vs Novocaine, the demo of Someday I'll be Saturday Night vs Soul Asylum's Runaway Train in which case the engineer said Jon brought in a copy of that song and asked for it to sound like that). Some Bon Jovi songs sound a LOT like other songs, it's how okay you are with that, thats the thing.

Stranger11 10-26-2016 03:33 PM

Whenever I hear this song on the Radio i have to think of You really got me
now



Rdkopper 10-26-2016 07:32 PM

I don't think listens to or ever heard half the shit you'll accuse him of stealing...

bounce442 04-22-2017 04:21 AM

I've been on a big Tom Petty kick lately. The more I listen, the more I hear where Jon gets a lot of his influence. Last Man Standing (2004) vs The Last DJ (2002). It's good... we both love Tom Petty.

The following is not at all completely stolen but the music and melody in the verses are the same. And for those who think all of these songs are coincidences, listen to the first line. It's clear what he was listening to when he sat down to write Blind Love. If I could just give him a bit of advice. If you're going to rip off a portion of a song, you gotta change the first line and if not, move it to the 2nd verse.

Blind Love Vs. Tom Petty - You Can Still Change Your Mind

jovifan93 04-23-2017 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bounce442 (Post 1223965)
I've been on a big Tom Petty kick lately. The more I listen, the more I hear where Jon gets a lot of his influence. Last Man Standing (2004) vs The Last DJ (2002). It's good... we both love Tom Petty.

The following is not at all completely stolen but the music and melody in the verses are the same. And for those who think all of these songs are coincidences, listen to the first line. It's clear what he was listening to when he sat down to write Blind Love. If I could just give him a bit of advice. If you're going to rip off a portion of a song, you gotta change the first line and if not, move it to the 2nd verse.

Blind Love Vs. Tom Petty - You Can Still Change Your Mind
Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - You Can Still Change Your Mind - YouTube

Ouch. Probably why he left it on his computer to re-appear much later on BB...

Thomas S 04-23-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1224015)
Ouch. Probably why he left it on his computer to re-appear much later on BB...

Yeah, even some of the lyrics are the same. :(

Walleris 04-23-2017 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bounce442 (Post 1223965)
I've been on a big Tom Petty kick lately. The more I listen, the more I hear where Jon gets a lot of his influence. Last Man Standing (2004) vs The Last DJ (2002). It's good... we both love Tom Petty.

The following is not at all completely stolen but the music and melody in the verses are the same. And for those who think all of these songs are coincidences, listen to the first line. It's clear what he was listening to when he sat down to write Blind Love. If I could just give him a bit of advice. If you're going to rip off a portion of a song, you gotta change the first line and if not, move it to the 2nd verse.

Blind Love Vs. Tom Petty - You Can Still Change Your Mind
Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - You Can Still Change Your Mind - YouTube

Totally! Great find!

Panda 04-24-2017 03:05 AM

Sing the chorus of this song:


Over top of this song:


DryCounty 04-24-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bounce442 (Post 1223965)
I've been on a big Tom Petty kick lately. The more I listen, the more I hear where Jon gets a lot of his influence. Last Man Standing (2004) vs The Last DJ (2002). It's good... we both love Tom Petty.

The following is not at all completely stolen but the music and melody in the verses are the same. And for those who think all of these songs are coincidences, listen to the first line. It's clear what he was listening to when he sat down to write Blind Love. If I could just give him a bit of advice. If you're going to rip off a portion of a song, you gotta change the first line and if not, move it to the 2nd verse.

Blind Love Vs. Tom Petty - You Can Still Change Your Mind
Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - You Can Still Change Your Mind - YouTube

Oh boy that's a great find. Pretty much a copy-paste verse.

Alphavictim 04-25-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1224042)

Eh.


CaptainKiddOnSunset 04-25-2017 04:35 AM

Forgive if I've missed this one being posted already...U2 Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses- Bon Jovi Superman Tonight... Heard it the other day first time in a while instantly thought of Superman.

https://youtu.be/lA0krVJeszE

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Nige 04-25-2017 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1224042)

100% agree with you on this...first listen of Rollercoaster I found myself singing The Middle over the top of it.

GabrielC 04-28-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1224058)

Oh man, it's really similar.

Alphavictim 11-05-2017 11:13 PM

Intro & verses remind me of You Had Me From Hello quite a bit

Alphavictim 12-16-2017 04:09 AM

sounds quite a bit like It's Hard Letting You Go's instrumentation. Curious that two tracks from These Days actually somewhat resemble absolute 80s pop (the other being Something To Believe In) moreso than anything else, just with a 90s production.

BJFan99 11-17-2020 10:21 AM

Beautiful Drug = (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone by the Monkees:

https://youtu.be/nCM7qcRyfKo

Simply can't be accidental.

Alphavictim 11-17-2020 12:50 PM

LMAO, that is uncanny. Three writers to steal the entire hook; nice catch.

rolo_tomachi 11-17-2020 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1270184)
Beautiful Drug = (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone by the Monkees:

https://youtu.be/nCM7qcRyfKo

Simply can't be accidental.

having something inspired or stolen from a song from the sixties is better than stealing from current artists. This makes me like Beautiful Drug even more.

Seaborn 02-11-2021 10:02 AM

Dyin' Ain't Much Of A Livin'
 
This will sound strange but there is a Bulgarian song from 1985 which sounds identical to Dyin' Ain't Much Of A Livin', which was released in 1990.

Here is a little mix between the two songs which I made:
https://soundcloud.com/karen-manuelyan/jovi-lz

Here is a link to the full Bulgarian song:

Faceman 02-11-2021 10:18 AM

Well, there are some similarities in the chorus' melody - which are partly caused by the same, common rhyme scheme. But I wouldn't go that far to say they sound identical.

Seaborn 02-11-2021 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1272363)
Well, there are some similarities in the chorus' melody - which are partly caused by the same, common rhyme scheme. But I wouldn't go that far to say they sound identical.

Sorry, you're right, they are not identical of course, but the whole structure, transitions and chorus sound really similar. :)

Dave 1986 02-23-2021 11:51 PM

Jon Bon Jovi and the songs he cleverly stole from others.
 
It's just occurred to me that "Misunderstood" sounds quite similar to The Calling's "Final Answer".


Similar sounding acoustic intro, guitar solo and outro and generally hits a lot of the same beats musically. It's fairly plausible as their debut album Camino Palmero was released the previous year and it produced their biggest hit "Wherever You Will Go". Though it was only an album track and most of the album was quite generic, of it's time and generally forgettable so I'm not sure if it would have caught Jon's attention. The Calling did cite Bon Jovi as one of their influences though.

For some reason I've decided to revisit The Calling lately and only noticed this now.

Captain_jovi 02-24-2021 12:27 AM

Hmm I don't hear too much similarity melodically but stylistically for sure this was the sound they were going after. I know Jon touted The Calling as the next big thing during promo for Crush.

The sound of this song reminds me so much of high school, wow.

Alphavictim 02-24-2021 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave 1986 (Post 1272677)
It's just occurred to me that "Misunderstood" sounds quite similar to The Calling's "Final Answer".


The Calling - Final Answer

Similar sounding acoustic intro, guitar solo and outro and generally hits a lot of the same beats musically. It's fairly plausible as their debut album Camino Palmero was released the previous year and it produced their biggest hit "Wherever You Will Go". Though it was only an album track and most of the album was quite generic, of it's time and generally forgettable so I'm not sure if it would have caught Jon's attention. The Calling did cite Bon Jovi as one of their influences though.

For some reason I've decided to revisit The Calling lately and only noticed this now.

The whole style was basically just 90s alternative through an early 2000s pop/rock filter. That is to say, it was Dizzy Up The Girl and Gutterflower-era Goo Goo Dolls. They also toured with BJ around that time, no?

Captain_jovi 02-24-2021 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1272680)
The whole style was basically just 90s alternative through an early 2000s pop/rock filter. Or, it was Dizzy Up The Girl and Gutterflower-era Goo Goo Dolls. They also toured with BJ around that time, no?

Goo Goo Dolls, Vertical Horizon, The Calling, Matchbox 20, Lifehouse, yeah. A lot of that "sound" was lifted by the band on Bounce and HAND a little bit. The jangly electric with an acoustic tucked lower in the mix. That sound is pretty prevalent in the middle-of-the-road Bounce b-sides. From what we heard of Mona Lisa, hoo boy. That has 2001/2002 written all over it.

Dave 1986 02-24-2021 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272679)
Hmm I don't hear too much similarity melodically but stylistically for sure this was the sound they were going after. I know Jon touted The Calling as the next big thing during promo for Crush.

The sound of this song reminds me so much of high school, wow.

Yeah you’re right. Particularly with Misunderstood, I don’t think they were targeting one specific band or song there. But that song just jumped out at me a being very similar in structure.

I agree with what you say about some of the Bounce b-sides being very derivative of that era. Very late 90s/early 2000’s American teen radio rock and could have been on an American Pie soundtrack. Nothing wrong with that. It just is what it is.

Alphavictim 02-24-2021 02:09 AM

American Pie was more mall pop punk, so a little more cheeky than this. This sounds more like Dawson's Creek.

liljovi93 02-24-2021 02:27 PM

I really like The Calling but you can definitely tell the influences.

The lead singer modelled himself on Jon a bit and I think the drummer looked the spit of David Bryan if I remember right. Well, the hair at least.

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James_86 03-07-2021 07:39 AM

I like The Calling, Final Answer is their best song IMO. Shame they split after only two albums.

Pretty sure the singer was involved in some crazy hostage situation a few years ago that only he claimed happened lol.

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Captain Walrus 03-23-2021 09:00 PM

It may have been mentioned before, but Do What You Can sounds a lot like Caution by The Killers

BJFan99 03-29-2021 09:23 AM

The More Things Change sounds suspiciously like Room Service by Bryan Adams. The verses legitimately have a very similar melody, close to the same chord progression, and the same "feel". Also, "it's the same damn song with a different melody" (JBJ) / "it's a different melody but the same old song" (Adams)... ouch.

https://youtu.be/d9-C85muwqo

BJFan99 04-26-2021 12:30 PM

Say It Isn't So = When I Come Around (Green Day):

https://youtu.be/i8dh9gDzmz8

rickysambo 05-10-2021 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1273323)
Say It Isn't So = When I Come Around (Green Day):

https://youtu.be/i8dh9gDzmz8

As someone who heard (& loved) When I come around way before I got to Say it Isn't so, I don't think there's are any similarities apart from the main riff (G-D-C-Em vs G-D-C but the riff structures aren't identical at all). The lyrical content are pretty dissimilar as well.


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