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rolo_tomachi 04-15-2018 08:40 PM

Box Set (commemorative for HOF) ???
 
There would be some possibility of it happening a Box Set commemorative taking advantage of the Hall of Fame.

If all the fans agreed to make some noise on social networks, maybe they could give us some from the vault on Christmas.

thoughts?

NicoRourke 04-15-2018 09:26 PM

I wouldn’t mind getting of few additional studio tracks (like a proper version of “Nothing”) and a glorious live from the KTF and TD tours.

ksanova 04-15-2018 10:01 PM

They should release historic shows like springsteen are doing every first friday

Kathleen 04-15-2018 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ksanova (Post 1239203)
They should release historic shows like springsteen are doing every first friday

This is absolutely what they should be doing.

Walleris 04-15-2018 10:43 PM

I think releasing new stuff (When We Were Us and Walls) at this time to re-release an album instead of wait a year or two to include them in a proper new album was Jon's idea of capitalizing on commercial momentum from the HOF induction. The chip on Jon's shoulder still wants to prioritize new stuff and be 'relevant'.

I hate to be saying this, but I think it will take for Jon's death or retirement (if he ever choses to retire) for us to get something old and really cool like old demos or classic live shows. Even at this stage of Jon's career, that just doesn't strike me as something he's interested in.

rolo_tomachi 04-15-2018 10:44 PM

It would be great if Jon and Richie recovered some friendship and ended up recording a studio version of Cadillac Man for the occasion. I would not even care if it was produced by John Shanks.

Thomas S 04-16-2018 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1239210)
It would be great if Jon and Richie recovered some friendship and ended up recording a studio version of Cadillac Man for the occasion. I would not even care if it was produced by John Shanks.

It would also be great if Jon and Richie could team up and use their music to destroy terrorism, cure cancer, and end poverty.

That doesn't mean that there's any chance in hell of it happening.

Rdkopper 04-16-2018 02:01 AM

This is going to (and already had) turn into a hypothetical thread of things that will never happen.

steel_horse75 04-16-2018 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1239188)
There would be some possibility of it happening a Box Set commemorative taking advantage of the Hall of Fame.



If all the fans agreed to make some noise on social networks, maybe they could give us some from the vault on Christmas.



thoughts?



Nope.
There’s no way the label would waste their money on it.
Box sets don’t sell.

rolo_tomachi 04-16-2018 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1239240)
Nope.
There’s no way the label would waste their money on it.
Box sets don’t sell.

Ok. maybe some commemorative? digital downloads? various Eps ...

What can we ask for and what can they easily give us?

Captain_jovi 04-16-2018 09:17 PM

They're not going to give us anything because this stuff doesn't sell and the audience that does want it is so small. There's no demand worth the effort to put out old, rare stuff as much as it sucks to say/hear.

symbeline 04-16-2018 10:40 PM

Even if they wanted to release something, I don't think they could get away with keeping Richie out of it somehow, especially after having kissed and made up (for the cameras at least), so another reason to leave this behind as soon as possible.

But *if* they wanted to treat the fans with something special HOF-related, wouldn't it be AWESOME if they released a limited special (studio) version of WWWU with Richie on it??? :-D:-D

Thinny 04-16-2018 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1239240)
Nope.
There’s no way the label would waste their money on it.
Box sets don’t sell.

They do if they a promoted right. The recent Def Leppard re-release of Hyseria did very well...and had about 1000% more promotion than the New Jersey re-issue.

Captain_jovi 04-16-2018 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1239283)
They do if they a promoted right. The recent Def Leppard re-release of Hyseria did very well...and had about 1000% more promotion than the New Jersey re-issue.

True point but what could the band really put out at this point. If we're talking re-releasing classic albums with a bunch of extras, that's one thing. We're talking live concerts and unreleased songs. NJ already had a package put out, Slippery would probably sell well but I can't see an unreleased demox box set selling no matter how good the marketing is, there's just no audience for it.

Thinny 04-16-2018 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1239286)
True point but what could the band really put out at this point. If we're talking re-releasing classic albums with a bunch of extras, that's one thing. We're talking live concerts and unreleased songs. NJ already had a package put out, Slippery would probably sell well but I can't see an unreleased demox box set selling no matter how good the marketing is, there's just no audience for it.

That's why you don't market it as a Rarities Box Set. You do expanded versions of the albums with a bonus disc of unreleased demos, a bonus full live show on 2 x CDs, another show on DVD, a DVD with all the videos from that album and new interviews with the band about the album and the songs....I personally would be salivating over them!

the Hysteria box set was 7 discs long and they didn't really even give us much that hadn't already been released in some form. Expanded version of Slippery/Jersey/Faith/TD/Crush could all include some very welcome material...even the first 2 records

The fact that NJ has already been done is irrelvant as no one but the hardcore fans knew it was out, it was such a wasted opportunity! But I guess the timing wasn't great with Richie's exit so recent.

Captain_jovi 04-17-2018 03:46 AM

I don't think it's an irrelevant fact, no label will see a failed project and say "well let's try it again". The few fans that bought it won't re-buy it and if it's not hitting that audience it's not really for the casuals. You can only dig out a bunch of era specific songs that didn't make the album. I agree with what you're saying, go big with it and throw as much as you can at it but they blew their wad putting it out and not promoting it already.


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