Realistically speaking, which Bounce song should have been on the Greatest Hits album
I say Misunderstood. Jon seems to like it, it was a single, they played it live (even acoustically during promo appearances) and it is a good song. Everyday was tailored to be a hit, sure, but it wasn't one, and All About Loving You... while it's okay, it has super dated production and they've got many better ballads (which would have been apparent on a greatest hits set).
I mean, yes, none of these songs were as big as It's My Life or Prayer, but neither was friggin When We Were Beautiful, and that one made the record. I guess Bounce was the first time the band did not sell a ton and thus have come to associate the record with unpleasant memories? Of course, Undivided should have been a single and on a greatest hits album, too, but since it wasn't really (promo stuff maybe, but eh), it rightfully was not. Too bad. |
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Talking regionally, how well did Something for the Pain do? For sure tanked North America side but not as knowledgeable on if it was the bigger of the TD songs in Europe. But I've always always always said the greatest hits should have been done differently in each larger territory. Probably would have costed twice as much to produce and distribute but I feel like it would have sold more.
To the original question: Misunderstood. |
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Everyday should've been on the Greatest Hits record. It was a big hit, was broadcast on MTV and VH1 quite often and the promo for the Bounce record was huge. I'd say the reason it's not on there is considering how much promo the band did there was little in return. Ticket sales were slow and the album got lukewarm reviews compared to Crush. The fourth single, Bounce, was cancelled after All About Lovin' You was pushed to May instead. Originally, All About Lovin' You was supposed to be released with Christmas and Bounce was supposed to be released in March to give ticket sales an extra push. Quote:
I thought Misunderstood was, after Say It Isn't So, the worst single they'd ever released. Back then every die hard on this board hated it and despised it making the live shows. I also remember the song going over really well in Germany yet going over like a lead balloon in Hyde Park a month later. Yet everyone knew the words to Undivided. Oh well. Salaam Aleikum, Sebastiaan |
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Were there any album tracks on the 2CD version of the Greatest Hits? I guess Tokyo Road sorta counts, but then again, that was not on the Western version. Also, was Lost Highway (the song) a hit ANYWHERE? I know Jon likes the song, but goddamn, it has no business being on that compilation. |
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Everyday for sure,not only on GH but staple in every setlist on every tour,it is great rock song,not hard to sing and gives variety on playing solo in it.
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I think Undivide should have been there. It wasn't a single but Blood On Blood wasn't one too (ok, it's got a video..). It would perfectly fit the second disc of GH.
If we speak about singles - definitely Everyday. It was on the radios even in my country. I remember hearing it for the first time at an outdoor swimming pool in summer of 2002. |
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For a greatest hits, it has to be either Everyday or Misunderstood. I'd personally vote for the former. It was quite a big hit in Ireland/UK/Europe so I'm surprised it didn't make it on to Disc 2. It's a pity that all albums weren't represented.
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Clearly Everyday.
If you take chart position as an important criteria, Greatest Hits should have included: You Give Love A Bad Name Livin’ On A Prayer Wanted Dead Or Alive Bad Medicine Born To Be My Baby I’ll Be There For You Lay Your Hands On Me Keep The Faith Bed Of Roses In These Arms Always Someday I’ll Be Saturday Night This Ain’t A Love Song Something For The Pain Lie To Me These Days It’s My Life One Wild Night Everyday Have A Nice Day Who Says You Can’t Go Home (You Want To) Make A Memory We Weren’t Born To Follow Runaway [because of the band’s history] This makes 24 songs. And possibly: Living In Sin Never Say Goodbye Dry County Hey God Say It Isn’t So Thank You For Loving Me All About Loving You Source (creates an North America, Europe+UK, Australia view on this): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Jovi_discography Personally I don't have a problem with Something For The Pain missing. |
Easy... Undivided! Which was "something that's universal" (as always).
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Undivided wasn't a single and has no business being on this release but then again so does a good chunk of disc 2.
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Bounce is one of their better album (in my opinion), it was also influenced in part from 9/11 and there isn't songs from that album in the GH...., I can't realize that, not even after 9 years...
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I mean, do you guys make a difference if the album is The Greatest Hits or The Best Of? I don't. Even though I know that GH should be compiled of songs that charted the best. In such case, it definitely should reflect the markets. A bunch of songs will be same everywhere. And also - do you the charts dictate it all? Because it might happen that there will be no new song because the old ones all did much better. On the other hand The best Of should be a compilation of just the best song, meaning not only singles but also fan favourites and live favourites? |
"Best of" is completely subjective. Best of to who? The label? The fans? The people who hate ballads? The people that hate the rock songs? At least Greatest Hits has quantifiable data to back it up. Most of the songs on both discs were physically released with promo videos so it's easier to give it a pass. For as much as it tanked I still feel like more people would know Lost Highway over Undivided and it deserves to be there versus songs on albums not released at all.
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Lost Highway doesn't deserve to be anywhere - neither setlists nor GH tracklists :mrgreen:
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Okay... I might agree that it could take a break from setlists; but that's just because Jon ain't got good quittin' sense when it comes to wearing some songs out. Especially when they include perhaps his favorite of all the lines he's ever written. Maybe if the Patron Saint of Lonely Souls would tell that boy which way to go, he'd temporarily lose it on the way. :D |
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Lost Highway just sucks. |
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Maybe I just didn't really like it from the beginning since I can live easily with Whole Lot of Leavin' which roughly gets the same treatment in terms of being put onto setlists. |
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What makes me angry is that he replaced Just Older for Lost Highway. That sucks, because I never got tired of listening to Just Older during 2000-2006 and Jon stopped playing it because of the fault of Lost Highway. I could be happy with Just Older into the set list for life.
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Hah, I guess I never really....picked up on that! I don't think it was quite that intentionally linked but they're both mid tempo songs with a lot of acoustic guitar so maybe! I could never blame that song for taking away JO. Just feel like they got tired of it. Especially without Richie there.
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The last time Just Older got played was in Barcelona, Spain on July 27, 2011. |
While it is not one of my absolute favs, I like Just Older. Lost Highway is... well it's not great at all. It's better than stuff like The More Things Change, but I'd much rather have Just Older.
By the way, I feel like The Circle is when they really started releasing the "radio pop rock stuff" as actual singles. Stuff like Just Older might have been just that, but it was not a single. But What Do You Got? was one. Born To Follow was one. Saturday Night Gave Me... was one (written during the TC timeframe, and it shows). Although I guess Someday I'll Be Saturday Night also has a pretty adult contemporary Bryan Adams-ish soft rock sound to it. Still, curious thing. Misunderstood too, but that wasn't the first single. |
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In the last 10 years, Just Older has been played with drops, and is no longer a basic song of the setlists. Maybe it had to happen, but damn it, this one was so great at shows... and before was basic on the setlists. |
To get some figures around here:
Bounce Tour: 83 Shows / 72 times played - number of different songs played (incl. covers): 61 Have A Nice Day Tour: 88 / 47 - 73 Lost Highway Tour: 99 / 34 - 100 The Circle Tour: 83 / 5 - 95 Live 2011: 59 / 9 - 102 Because We Can Tour: 103 / 0 - 90 I think it's a mix of different reasons. First of all the number of albums to pick the songs for the setlist raised each tour (of course). With the Lost Highway tour the band started to vary the setlists much more than the tours before. And I also think that it's a vocal issue as well. Just listen to the early versions and compare it to the latest versions. Jon struggles with the chorus and uses a different kind of emphasis to make it through the chorus. On the studio and early live versions he sings the way it's supposed to be: "It's noooooot ooooold" with the long note on the "not" and a slightly longer note on the old. On later version he sang "It's not ooold" with only a slightly longer note on the old so that he had more breathe for "just ooooooldeeeerrr". And later on even left out the "just" and only sang "oooldeeeer". So I think that might be one of the main reasons to get rid of it more and more. I don't think it has something to do with Richie. There'd be a whole lot of other songs he wouldn't play for that reason either (Blood On Blood, Whole Lot Of Leavin', I'll Be There For You [ok, at least a hit]...). |
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