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bonjovi90 05-04-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1187421)
Some French guy also told me that a song from WAN sounded very similar to this French hit song but I don't have enough time on my hands now to compare and not enough courage to listen to the whole WAN album - dinner time! :D

Yves Duteil - Prendre un enfant par la main (1979)
https://youtu.be/nuaNqlFdFSs

It's very similar to one of the slow songs...haven't listened to the album for so long that I find it hard to say which one sicne they were so interchangeable, but I guess it was either The Fighter or Not Running Anymore...

Old Joysey 05-05-2015 12:17 AM

Yep! "The Fighter" wins! The first 5 or 7 first notes (the basic melody) are the same, well, that's not much, it could be incidental.

A more obvious ripp-off that I mentioned months ago but I don't remember if it was in this thread:
Big Country - King Of Emotion - 1988
https://youtu.be/7_P0s-yICcE

Bon Jovi - Because We Can
https://youtu.be/chXJFjrl-Q4

Actually, all the rockers on the WAN album including WAN are reminiscent of Big Country songs because of the E Bow (the electronic lighted device that you can see in Bobby's right hand during the live shows). That gizmo made BC's signature sound, this stuff makes guitars sound like bagpipes or violins.

Matrix15 05-06-2015 05:03 PM

Because we can reminds me of Fun's Some nights. Buts its probably just the singing in the chorus.

Old Joysey 07-21-2015 03:20 AM

Updating time! :)

We Don't Run / Gotta Be Somebody by Nickelback

bonjovi90 07-21-2015 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1189799)
Updating time! :)

We Don't Run / Gotta Be Somebody by Nickelback

You surely mean Satuday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning / Gotta Be Somebody :D

Old Joysey 07-21-2015 03:42 AM

errr... Yes! So many songs sound alike that I'm losing track!
Actually it was a test just to see if my post would be read! :p

nikos greece 08-08-2015 12:26 PM

i dont think its mentioned all i want is everything - sign o' the times by prince...
the verses are identical and probably thats the reason why this song was only a bonus track...listen to it...i was in a bar yestaerday and princes song started playing and it hit me...
i am not one of the guys that tries to find a resemblance between every song and i realise as a musician my self that certain chords and chords progressions dont belong to anyone but this is the same...anyway nice song from prince..
https://youtu.be/gE14j7M1JCw

Old Joysey 08-08-2015 04:30 PM

Last night I was listening to some David Bowie live when it suddenly hit me! :o

David Bowie "Heroes" - Bon Jovi "That's What The Water Made Me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYjB...=RDAsNTmjlf1vI


It's even more obvious live when Bobby B. is allotted more space to play the solo with the E-bow.
https://youtu.be/p2q4COA1qnU?t=19m33s

rolo_tomachi 08-17-2015 11:12 PM

Mana - Clavado en un bar (Intro) // Have A Nce Day (Intro)

Seems Have A nice Day Intro. In 2002-2003, Jon in a promo interview spoke about Mana music. Interesting.

liljovi93 08-17-2015 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Joysey (Post 1191390)
Last night I was listening to some David Bowie live when it suddenly hit me! :o

David Bowie "Heroes" - Bon Jovi "That's What The Water Made Me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYjB...=RDAsNTmjlf1vI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrV9ZnVIXBo

It's even more obvious live when Bobby B. is allotted more space to play the solo with the E-bow.
https://youtu.be/p2q4COA1qnU?t=19m33s

I don't hear this one. Where exactly in the song does it sound like Bowie? I listen to Bowie a lot and 'Heroes' is one of my favs as is 'That's What The Water Made Me' but I have never thought of them two being alike in any way.

Bon Jovi have copied some bits from Bowie in other songs, though.

Rolo, that's a good one.

Old Joysey 09-02-2015 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1084814)
I'm quite sure there's more out there. To this day I swear I recognize the riff from Naked, along with the drum loop, from another song but I can't say which one. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Or come up with more examples of songs they stole from others? I'm sure there's more out there of bands I rarely listen to. I'll edit the list once the suggestions start to come. :)

Swallowed by Bush (chorus)?
https://youtu.be/Qc4SE7o9Zts

TwinFan 09-03-2015 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1192088)
Mana - Clavado en un bar (Intro) // Have A Nce Day (Intro)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLNdTLlJqi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzWO7O-qHWI

Seems Have A nice Day Intro. In 2002-2003, Jon in a promo interview spoke about Mana music. Interesting.

This one is REALLY pushing it...

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ezearis 09-03-2015 09:05 PM

I thought the purpose of this thread was commenting on songs that are really similar, not to overthinking in what little piece of a song resembles to another.

liljovi93 09-03-2015 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1193799)
I thought the purpose of this thread was commenting on songs that are really similar, not to overthinking in what little piece of a song resembles to another.

Yeah, completely agree with this.

The odd chord can't be counted as 'stealing' .. It's highly unlikely that Jon purposely done that on most songs.

Becky 09-03-2015 10:59 PM

I heard the creator of this site on Entertainment Weekly radio this afternoon.

He said the songwriters who were the worst offenders (though he didn't phrase it that way) were the main writer for One Republic and Avril Lavigne.


www.samethattune.com


What Is Same That Tune?

As a musician and composer, I’m often struck by similarities between pop songs. If you’ve ever listened to a tune on the radio and thought to yourself, “this sounds really familiar,” or “what does this melody remind me of,” (or more bluntly, “this song is a rip-off of …”) then you have shared in the experience. SAME THAT TUNE recognizes musical similarities between songs as a matter of opinion, and provides an informal referendum on whether or not the resemblance to an earlier work is: COINCIDENTAL (original and second may share musical influences, instrumentation, etc.), a TRIBUTE (second intentionally honors/references original), DUBIOUS (second is highly derivative of original), or NON-EXISTENT (original and second do not sound similar).

To paraphrase Pete Townshend, all songwriters are magpies and thieves, owing either to the limited number of chord/melodic progressions and variations in contemporary western music or simply to limited creativity. Or perhaps, as neuroscientist Daniel Levitin describes in his fascinating book This Is Your Brain On Music, our inherent need to “categorize” leads us to group various musical works together (or form mental prototypes, subsequently used for comparison purposes).

Please note this site will not delve into the subject of “subconscious plagiarism” (SEE George Harrison, My Sweet Lord legal controversy or Men At Work, Down Under legal controversy). Likewise, we will try to avoid instances in which a songwriter has created a work similar to his/her very own catalogue (SEE John Fogerty, Old Man Down The Road legal controversy). Everything else, is fair game and open to critical analysis. Let’s make this a fun, connect-the-dots musical collective (keep it honest, clean and insightful). Media clips (hosted elsewhere) have been displayed on this site (via links) strictly for illustrative purposes and to elicit critical discourse. SAME THAT TUNE does not wish to affect or diminish the market or potential market for musical works. Furthermore, statements and observations made by the members of this site are merely their expressed opinion and hyperbole. SAME THAT TUNE does not contain any uploading functionality.

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life_of_agony 09-05-2015 09:14 AM

There are some big similarities between "Always" and "Meat Hook Sodomy" by Cannibal Corpse.

Faceman 09-05-2015 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1192088)
Mana - Clavado en un bar (Intro) // Have A Nce Day (Intro)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLNdTLlJqi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzWO7O-qHWI

Seems Have A nice Day Intro. In 2002-2003, Jon in a promo interview spoke about Mana music. Interesting.

Well, the Mana intro to me sounds more like Good Loving than HAND.
The last chord doesn't fit to HAND.

Matrix15 09-06-2015 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by life_of_agony (Post 1193854)
There are some big similarities between "Always" and "Meat Hook Sodomy" by Cannibal Corpse.

I know, right?!

The album version of always is 5.54.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always_(Bon_Jovi_song)

And Meat Hook Sodomy is 5:46.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butchered_at_Birth

The length of both songs is with 8 seconds of each other. Pretty suspicious IMO.

Tiggerbeast 09-07-2015 07:28 PM

It goes the other way to. Ellen Shipley and Rick Nowels wrote Belinda Carlisle's hit 'Heaven Is A Place On Earth'. I has the same chord structure (a different melody) but essentially its the same song. I recall Jon once said 'That b***c stole our song'.

Alphavictim 09-07-2015 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiggerbeast (Post 1193916)
I recall Jon once said 'That b***c stole our song'.

I'd hope he knows better than that.

rolo_tomachi 09-08-2015 05:24 PM

She Don't Know Me, okay, not composed by Jon, but is other case of Rip off in a bon jovi song.

It's my faith 09-08-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1193942)
She Don't Know Me, okay, not composed by Jon, but is other case of Rip off in a bon jovi song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL204jQT73c

I don't think this is a "rip off". It's the same music and same lyrics. Maybe there was some kind of agreement betweem them before releasing it on BJ? You can't just "cover" someone and put it on your disc!

rolo_tomachi 09-08-2015 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by It's my faith (Post 1193943)
I don't think this is a "rip off". It's the same music and same lyrics. Maybe there was some kind of agreement betweem them before releasing it on BJ? You can't just "cover" someone and put it on your disc!

True. But it's so funny. Here other version.

John Bongiovi And The Wild Ones- She Dont Know Me (Demo)

Bounce7800 09-08-2015 05:52 PM

This one doesn't really apply as its the one song Jon didn't write! It may be a cover or stolen by Avsec, but Jon is not guilty on this one.

It's my faith 09-11-2015 07:36 PM

https://youtu.be/SWV12Pg2gZk Chapel Song by We are Augustines

VS

Beautiful Day by JBJ

Haha, even the key is the same :P

Becky 09-11-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by It's my faith (Post 1194293)
https://youtu.be/SWV12Pg2gZk Chapel Song by We are Augustines

VS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJt1EUcnK8o Beautiful Day by JBJ

Haha, even the key is the same :P


Jon didn't write this song.

rolo_tomachi 09-11-2015 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1194319)
Jon didn't write this song.

But it sounds so JBJ, right?. It could have been included in BB. ;)

bonjovi90 09-11-2015 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1194322)
But it sounds so JBJ, right?. It could have been included in BB. ;)

You're obsession with this song being included on a BJ album is astonishing :p

It's my faith 09-11-2015 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1194319)
Jon didn't write this song.


Yes, of course he didn't. I couldn't find any other place to submit this comparison so I chose here!

It's my faith 09-24-2015 08:52 AM

The intro of Semi charmed life by Third Eye Blind (1997) is similar to Say it isn't so (2001)


Alphavictim 09-29-2015 04:20 PM

The intro von Gin Blossom's Follow You Down reminded me quite a bit of Who Says:

Supersonic 09-29-2015 04:36 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1195932)
The intro von Gin Blossom's Follow You Down reminded me quite a bit of Who Says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27S0DHkTp-g

Yeah, great find! Sounds a bit too similar, both the guitars and the little fiddle in between the drums. The entire vibe is the same. It even has the word "go" in it. :)

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Lucas_Roli 10-15-2015 11:53 AM


Just heard this today while I was having dinner at my grandma. It was a bit weird because i left her house humming Rich Man Livin In A Poor Man's House and I couldn't realise why.

Captain_jovi 10-20-2015 04:47 PM

Anyone else thinks I Got The Girl and Crazy Love were diluted from Tom Petty's Here comes my girl? Listen to the breakdown in Tom Petty's song, right down to "watch her walk..."

Nige 11-03-2015 11:29 PM

I heard a Nirvana song on the radio today and found myself singing JBJ's Naked along with it. Unfortunately I can not remember the name of the Nirvana track! I'll post it when I remember....

Captain Walrus 11-04-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 1197386)
I heard a Nirvana song on the radio today and found myself singing JBJ's Naked along with it. Unfortunately I can not remember the name of the Nirvana track! I'll post it when I remember....

Lithium? Sounds a bit similar

Rdkopper 11-04-2015 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 1197386)
I heard a Nirvana song on the radio today and found myself singing JBJ's Naked along with it. Unfortunately I can not remember the name of the Nirvana track! I'll post it when I remember....

Rape Me...

Nige 11-05-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1197395)
Rape Me...

Haha nice guess! Lithium was actually the correct one.

Captain Walrus 11-08-2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 1197403)
Haha nice guess! Lithium was actually the correct one.

Woohoo, I win! :D

Alphavictim 11-15-2015 04:42 PM

Vibes of Starting All Over Again:


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