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Captain_jovi 07-26-2020 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1266008)
If I understood the article correctly, Billboard won't be approving any new bundle deals. So even if Jon were to announce new dates, and start selling tickets today, they wouldn't be counted.

It looks like only existing offers, i.e., those that had already been approved before the decision was made, will be allowed to count ticket and/or merch bundles towards chart sales. And of those existing offers, only the sales prior to Oct 8 can be included.

That might explain why Billboard yanked the first report, and changed the Oct 2 date to TBA so fast. If artists had existing approved deals in place, with the understanding that an Oct 2 release would be within the parameters, they probably went through the roof when they read that only records released prior to Oct 2 would be under the old guidelines. Especially if some of them had moved up previously announced release dates, like Jon did, perhaps just to get in under the wire.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't see why Jon (or the label) would change a date that had already been moved out from May 15 to Oct 30, just to pull the release in by less than a month, unless there was some perceived benefit. Especially when the Oct 30 date dovetailed perfectly with the 2020 elections. If the date was changed, knowing that cancellation refunds would nullify those sales, it would make even less sense.

Was it actually confirmed to Oct 30? I know people said that date here and there as a possibility but as far as marketing an announcements went I don't know if I saw it as a "for sure" thing. Honestly I'm not sure the two were connected, this tour was cancelled way back in April (god, what a sentence) so it wouldn't matter either way.

Supersonic 07-29-2020 04:54 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1266007)
Agree.
If they paid $100 for ticket and album and got refunded $100 they won’t get an album as it means they’ve got one for free.


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Yeah, hence giving it away for free.

You're not given a refund on the thing that was given away for free, you're given a refund on the thing you bought. Just replace the CD with something edible and surely you must understand it won't make sense to be expected to return that either.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Thinny 07-29-2020 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1266072)
Aloha !



Yeah, hence giving it away for free.

You're not given a refund on the thing that was given away for free, you're given a refund on the thing you bought. Just replace the CD with something edible and surely you must understand it won't make sense to be expected to return that either.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

It's not given away for free though. The price of the CD is incoroperated into the ticket. The record company would have got paid for every ticket sold. Now they won't get anything.
Everyone that brought a ticket essentially paid for the CD, whout being given a choice. It's classed as a bundle, not a free gift. Free gifts are not chart elegible in most countries.


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