So it's safe to say that 90% of it is different!

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Great topic! Yeah, I can't discuss it forever. I remember living through it... I do remember hearing on the radio about back to back solo albums getting released and being very excited about it.

DA was so different and unexpected because most fans thought we were getting a second Young Guns album... I do remember hearing a DJ even describing one of the songs on DA to be Wanted Dead Or Alive on steroids. To this day, I don't know what that song was. However there is a track called Someday You'll Ride Wild Horses and I believe that's it because he did mention Horses...

Anyway, if you listen to the Crowd Demos with headphones, you hear so much more and yes, that are all very different and in my opinion, so much better... especially vocally... Save The Word is fantastic. And the vocals on Real Life are so sick. Totally different song...

I asked Obie for it and although he seemed interested in the idea, he really doesn't have answers... He just smiles, shakes his head, and appeases fans...

I think there are a lot of factors holding back these type of releases...

1. It doesn't seem like Jon's new contract is demanding a new release each year like the past one.

2. These albums just don't sell.

3. Jon's on this anti nostalgic, I hate the past kick so he won't promote it.

4. I think Jon wants to put out a few albums to prove he's a serious act without Richie... He doesn't need to rely on anything in the past to prove Bon Jovi is still a contender. Kinda like an ego trip.

5. Even though Sex Sells was a Jon solo album, I think part of the fun from the last Box Set was them going through the material together as a band... To continue off of number 4, if Jon was going to release a new box with songs that Richie played guitar on, it would be kinda weird considering he's not in the band.

Didn't someone say the solo was redone on Saturday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning? They took Richie's off and Shanks did his own...

I think one day we'll get a second box but it's not in the near future.







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Hush, Gimme Some, Stay, You Can't Lose at Love all released as is. That's a good chunk of the album. I'd still like to see it come out in full.

There was never a final track listing revealed.

20 plus songs and titles came from that "Sex Sells" session so it's impossible to say which 12 were actually on the final album (including those from the listening party).

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They released the New Jersey Box in 2014 when Richie wasnt already in the band.

And look what happen with that. Jon ignored it, never promoted it, and hardly even spoke about it. Like it never even happened. Point in case!

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I think the days of Boxsets are over for bands like Bon Jovi as they just dont sell - even Bon Jovi new albums dont sell.

Only way it could be done is if they done it independently via the website - Which Im surprised they haven't as Jon loves a dollar or two.

Box sets actually sell really well if promoted correctly. Fans the age of the average Bon Jovi fan are all about nostalgia. The New Jersey one would have done much better if people had known about it. The Def Leppard one recently too Hysteria back in to the top 5 album charts! Just look at the amount of bands releasing massive 6 x CD Deluxe Editions and Anniversary editions. There's a huge market for this, especially if done as expanded editions rather than just a Box Set of unreleased stuff.

I'm pretty sure that anything recorded from 84-2015 would be owned by the label, so Jon can't just release it independently.

Jon hates to be called a nostalgia act but as you say - most fans crave the glory years so would love a boxset.
Perfect time would be the UK tour - flood the set with stuff off the the first 6 albums and release a boxset of outtakes from around that time.

Yeah,i think it is very obvious it was released because of the deal with the company not because Jons will.

Why Bon Jovi cant release anniversary editions of their albums like Bruce does?
Why Bon Jovi cant release old gigs like Bruce does?
It is something I will never understand.
It is not incompatible trying not to be a nostalgia act releasing new albums with keepin alive your legacy pleasing your old fans with old stuff.
It is good to upload videos from your current tour on your yt channel,but,cmon,you can also upload videos from old tours.
It is depressing how Bon Jovi treats his career.

Yeah, especially as it's unlikely we will have a new record before the tour...

Because Bon Jovi has a completely different type of fan base. He's trained them really well and for the most part the types of concerts they get. Bon Jovi is a greatest hits band. You can't have decades of being one type of band and then pivot and drop Bad Medline.

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Sure you can. Born To Be My Baby was dropped from the set for a good decade. Always is almost always ignored. Lay Your Hands On Me and Bed Of Roses were dropped for several tours. Keep The Faith was dropped for a lot of shows on the Bounce tour and several on the HAND tour. In These Arms doesn't show up at every show either.

You're making it sound like Bon Jovi play a great hits show, but they're not. For most regular shows at least half of the set is either a new song, one or two crowd pleasers or an album cut no one cares for but Jon.

Bon Jovi could easily release re-releases. They did so when all albums were re-released in 2010. Obie really spoke of something immensely special. Yet what were the bonus tracks? Live songs no one cares for, apart from maybe 2 or 3 which were special. That New Jersey re-release? It was awful and another missed opportunity.

Bon Jovi's problem is the band is being run by someone who doesn't care for the band and only sees it as a vehicle to make money. Jon's so focussed on not being a nostalgia act yet has been stuck in the past for at least 20 years. It's just not the past his audience likes.

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I have read all the replies and it's good to know what's been going on. I think it applies for all American bands. UK bands often have more fan favourites or demo packed special editions. What was the last time for BJ, eh? 2011, and no more fan favourites since that tour. I can't even name a more precious song they have played in WAN. And the current setlist is awful, closest we got is These Days and Last Man Standing. Europe gets more though, that's the main reason I've stated it's for America. Anyways for the bootleg, I have contacted various trade sites and still no luck. I'd be very pleased if you send it as I'm desperately in search. There's a two disc Youtube audio blocked named Sex Sells. I don't know whether it's the torrent greatest hits bootleg, I will check the total hours later. But I don't give it a chance. If it was the demos, then they wouldn't have got blocked.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...QDQEtrO2w43UQ1

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Another Dry County member... Lol.

oh man, I did not realize the audio improvement. It's amazing how audible it is now. Great job. as usual.

Thanks my friend :)

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But now they are blocked :(

I remember when they were posted and it was just a fan made compilation of all the same mixed qualities we have today. Anyone can remake it themselves.

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I was recently watching Youtube looking for Bon Jovi, there is a song called "The Soul Truth" it was impossible for me to get any lyrics but screamings it was so bad. I see you are like an audio wizard, could you apply your magic to that song please?

It's been tried multiple times by multiple people... when something is on one track, there are no technologies out there that can decipher what needs to stay and what needs to go... Even the most advanced professional equipment couldn't do it.

The quality isn't even that bad. It's just the screaming that ruins the track.

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have you ever tried this software?

https://www.magix.com/us/music/spectralayers/

I've seen some people on the youtube deleting specific things on the audio waves... I don't know if it could work at some point

I've been working with this software for 11 years and do all my remasters with it. However, there's a difference between audience recordings and studio tracks. If something was mixed professionally, you can detect specific things at certain parts of the stereo spectrum. With audience recordings that's not possible. On that upload, Kathleen had even reduced the screams by hand on the wave spectrum before.
About the lyrics, I posted them here at some point. Look for that "Grey Summer period" thread. I'd do that for you, but on the phone it's a bit strenuous.

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"Video no disponible
Este video cuenta con contenido de UMG, quien lo bloqueó por razones relacionadas con los derechos de autor."

Ha...

so, basically there is no possible way even with a lot of time on it :confused:
Someone sent to me a song called "Stay" from some "pre bon jovi" it's a bad quality song, do you think is there something to get it better with that software?

Mi espanol papas fritas?? I have no idea what it says but I guess it is a legal claim from UMG... does anybody has it for me? Please please please?:rolleyes:

This is my Youtube channel.
Did you get what you want already?
If you do not tell me, if you do not violate the rules of the forum I put the download link here.
I have no problem sharing, it's fan to fan!
I'll be happy to help

Hello there. I truly appreciate your effort at remastering. I've managed to get it, thank you for the offer :)

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I want them but the link is down due some copyright issues

The YouTube link doesn't work for me.

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I would be interested in hearing this too.

I have the feeling that maybe some powerful Bon Jovi fan should have it. I was reading some of the Obie's Q&A and he said that most part of the New Jersey demos has been already leaked. So it would not be impossible but somewhere some powerful fan shoulñd have them in decent quality

Are we talking about New Jersey or Sex Sells? Those were two very different scenarios.

WeSex sells, but I am saying that probably some fan may have those songs in good quality... By the the way... How those Richie Sambora Spanish songs got laked? And does it exist on flac or wav quality?

Probably??? I'd go with probably not!!! If we are talking about "some fan"!

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No. Up until Jon took over the reign of his company in 1991/92, things were handled more light heartedly and much more stuff was leaked by band members or people close to the band. Since then, they've kept a pretty tight reign. I can't see a fan having these demos.

If you check I said some powerful fan... I think there are people with a lot of money and influences because those demos did not leaked alone (talking about new jersey, slippery when wet and so on)

That explains a lot 😁 so... In other words there is no chance.

But does anybody in here knows if those Sambora songs in spanish exists in flac format or other format? Because those Youtube versions sounds a little bad

The songs exist, they were played... Jon has a vault of material that reach far beyond these few Sex Sells titles.. Do other people have access? Like some rich, super fan, who is close to the band? Maybe! But you're stretching it if you think by some miracle you're going track any such person down...

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