Giants Stadium 2001?
 

Is it just me or is Jon's voice actually shot? It is really noticeable on songs like Prayer, just before the key change when he does the 'Livin on a prayer ' line it sounds pretty horrible, definitely below Jon's vocals standards on the Crush/OWN tour.

It's been a long time since I watched that show, but I don't remember hearing anything bad on it. It sounded good to my ears and I take pride in being a Master of Science in Jon's vocals.

Note-by-note it may sound slightly worse than Zurich 2000 (especially on Prayer), but this was a DVD with severe overdubs that the Giants broadcast didn't have.

changing the subject but it's not worth to open a new thread for that question so:


do we actually know or can we actually trace where those overdubs lie? (in the Zurich 2000 crush tour concert dvd)

Both Wembley 1995 and Zurich 2000 had initial live FM broadcasts and from there you can check the differences.
Haven't listend to much of Zurich 2000, but Wembley had some noteable overdubs - like Richie's guitar problems in the Always solo (4:03):

He sounds decent (amazing compared to now) on that show, but there are better vocal shows from earlier in the tour.

Yes, he does sound amazing compared to now, but I think there is something with his voice . First, on the "baby, it's OK " part when he goes for the high OK his voice cracks and sounds terrible. Then on the line just before the solo again, sounds pretty bad and brings out that annoying nasal voice from 2003-2006.And finally , in the key change on the "You live for the fight when it's all that you've got" and "Take my hand and we'll make it is swear" parts again sounds bad. I don't know what was up with his voice though, he definitely sounded way better even on the Melbourne concert from early 2001.

Wow, I always thought the Giants show was one of the best I've ever heard, can't imagine how good the start of the tour must have been then. Keep the Faith was in my opinion the band's best performance they've ever done on any filmed show

Giants 2001 was and still is my absolute favorite Bon Jovi video to watch. The performance is incredible, the crowd is loud, and the band is having a ton of fun. Sure, Jon's voice is a little strained, but it was right at the end of a tour, and it seems like he was giving it everything he had those nights.

the FM broadcast of this show is so much more natural than the DVD version. the "Livvviiin on a praaaaayeeeerrrr" before the guitar solo was definitely overdubbed on the DVD (and in turn, overdubbed once again for the One Wild Night Live CD), among several other things. The FM version just makes it seem like a much better concert, the DVD is way too sterile imo

What is even more ridiculous is that high note before the solo sounds different on Crush DVD than OWN CD, which means they've used two different overdubs for the same performance! :D I wish the original recordings of Zurich 2000 were still on YouTube...

Where can I listen to that FM broadcast ? I don't think it's on youtube?

Let me guess: Jon f***ed up the high note at the actual show?

yes that's true, there are 3 version of this performance: bootleg, dvd and one wild night show.

The line before the guitar solo sounds like it's overdubbed with the original line from the studio version

it's not the studio version. it is a record studio from 2000 era.

Are all 3 available on YouTube?

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I don't know. When I listen to it it sounds like the studio verson

It's an overdub from one of the 2000 shows or a studio recording made afterwards since his phrasing on "livin'" is different.

But wait , do you the actual One wild night live CD? Because when I listen to it on Spotify it sounds just like the studio version ?

Sorry, I was talking about the sound on the DVD. Haven't checked the CD in a while.

The line before the solo on the DVD sounds great . But how can you know it was overdubbed? Have you listened to the FM broadcast?

Yes, actually just today :D

Where did you listen to it? It's not on youtube I think?

I'm trying to find it too

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Richie's talkbox was also overdubbed in crush tour dvd, it can be easily seen during the intro part.

Livin' on a Prayer is so ****ing butchered on OWN Live. It's so snipped up and overdubbed, it's incredible. All the parts of the last half of the song are sliced in half for no apparent reason.

Then again, the live album as a whole is one big mess. :confused: