Runaway Tour Sept 23-25 Las Vegas
 

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Anyone have $4000 to waste?

What's depressing is that you really aren't exaggerating by much there

Hopefully he'll sing I Will Drive You Home again

For the money he is charging he should sing it then literally drive everyone home from the gig.

And then hand back about $3,500.

You guys know you don't have to go, right?

Whaaaat???

But everyone still has to complain about something that is irrelevant, though, right?

Runaway Tour Sept 23-25 Las Vegas
 

I wouldn’t go if I could afford it out of principle.

I can’t believe the people that go and pay thousands of pounds/dollars to watch a washed up rock star.

Reminds of me of Elvis doing those tacky Vegas shows towards the end of his career.

Jon would get VERY offended at the last comment, bro :D He says he'll never be a fat Elvis *doing tacky shows*. At least he's staying in shape :D

Jon is a superficial person, I guess when he said that about Elvis, he was referring only to his look.

Again? When did he sing it the first time?

You can't deny Jon's good looks play a big role in the band's success so he's a victim of his own image so to speak :rolleyes:

And Elvis was a junkie, heavily addicted to prescription drugs, so this was not entirely his laziness and/or self-indulgence, but rather a severe illness. And his circle was full of false friends and greedy leeches, with his manager being the worst worm, exploiting the sick guy to the end :/

But even on his deathbed, Elvis could still sing! Jon, on the other hand.... the show goes on.

But they do. The prices are justified because people pay them. How is that the bands fault? Absolutely it's a LOT of money but if people are paying it and leaving happy it'll just keep happening.

Jon is a massive Elvis fan. He referred to Stephanie as Elvis before she was born because they didn’t want to know the gender before birth.

When he says “fat Elvis,” I believe he is referring to the shambles the man’s life was in before he died. His “people” were giving him uppers to perform and downers to sleep. No one cared enough about the human to get him on the track to being healthy. He was milked for every dollar he could make other people. His marriage failed. He had few years with his child. The “fat Elvis” is the mental image of the mess his life was when he died.

Yup, too many people are taking what he said as face value. It's about legacy, not necessarily about body type.

Of course it won't change. I know that's how the business works and there still are way too many people dumb enough to pay those ticket prices.

My biggest gripe is that there's absolutely nothing coming from Jon & the band to give something back to loyal fans who can't afford stuff like that. This year's tour, Jon was touting about it being nothing than a victory lap to say thank you to the fans who had been with the band on this ride etc.
Yet, if you're a student or don't have that income, you either sit up there in the nosebleeds or, in terms of Runaway tour events, can simply **** off. You can't even get to these concerts without these super-douper-extra-special-worship packages around them.
The attendees there probably don't even know half of the songs played at such an event and the Q&A sessions are the same lame questions up and down again.
I wouldn't even say something if they had another way of redeeming loyal fans. Special editions of their great albums, some studio recordings from the vaults, some great concerts from the archives being released etc. But there's nothing on this side because you wouldn't make much money from it.

Yeah, I know that sounds bitter and other bands are doing similar things as well. But there are enough examples who don't do that as well. For example, here in Germany there's a very successful (punk) rock band who has had hits since the 80's and actually still does. They play the venues here that Bon Jovi used to sell out 10-20 years ago. Their ticket prices are very affordable and you actually can get to the front row with standard tickets.
Or, on an international level, take Billy Joel, who is roughly as successful as Bon Jovi. He used to have VIP packages, but was actually so disgusted by rich people staring at him in the front rows and not reacting to the songs that he stopped doing it and nowadays sends his crew out to pick people from the back and have them sent to the front, so that there's party up there again.
That's a way to do it.

But if you're the CEO of a major corporation, you probably think differently.

This is not a Jon issue, it's just an industry standard.

So if everybody else jumps off a bridge, Jon's gonna take a dive? Just because it's an industry standard doesn't mean he has to follow it. In fact, I believe he may have written a song or two along the lines of, "We weren't born to follow. Come on and get up off your knees... We weren't born to follow, you gotta stand up for what you believe."

C"mon, RDK, let me hear you say "yeah". ;)

I can’t stop laughing at that last sentence!:p

Really? You used the 'Jumping off the bridge' comparison???

There was a lot said in his original post but I was referring to the ticket prices... it's a fight that has already been fought thanks to Pearl Jam... a big chunk of those prices has to do with fees... I got 15 dollar tickets the other day ended up paying more than double... 32 bucks a ticket for a 15 dollar show...

Again, it's a business... It's not like Jon is a cult leader stealing people's money... Jon is a singer in a band and has to rely on people... There is a huge overhead with these concerts...Rent the venues, pay the crew, pay the band, the equipment, lighting, stage sets, and so much more... I'd love to see the breakdown of all the overhead including what each band members makes but it doesn't sound cheap, that's for sure...

Jon doesn't know what's a fair price of what everyone could afford... it's not like Jon can just pull prices out of thin air for each section... 'ummm 49.99 sounds like its too much for the 200 section, let's reduce it to 35.99'... plus certain cities have different prices...It's all calculated through supply and demand...

Research 'equilibrium price'!!!

There is a reality that a lot of people forget to live in... Jon is an entertainer, that's his job... He's also a husband, a father of four, and has several other projects that he works on... I believe he even owns a restaurant in the Hampton's (Blue Parrot)...

We may complain about it here but unless the noise reaches the masses, Jon might not even known there is an issue to begin with...

I too sat in the nosebleed seats in college and now I can afford to sit wherever I want... I'm also a realist... I don't need to be in the pit to thoroughly enjoy myself... first level side sections are just as enjoyable for a third of the price...

Then you should have been more specific, or quoted only that part of bonjovi90's post. The way it's written, it sounded like you were saying that none of his complaints or suggestions had any merit, simply because Jon was just doing what everybody else in the industry was doing. It reminded me of my 16-year-old self trying to justify some action with "but everybody else is..."; to which my mom would invariably reply, "so if everybody else jumps off a bridge... "

It was a perfectly reasonable analogy. There's a reason cliches become cliches. :)

Cue violins. There's no argument that touring is an expensive proposition; but whether Jon's net worth is 300 million or the 400+ million you think he has, I don't think he's feeling the pinch.

The cost of touring has nothing to do with the other things bonjovi90 suggested, like special editions of their albums, studio recordings from the vaults, some great concerts from the archives being released etc. Some of the same things that you yourself have repeatedly said you'd like to see. But, as he said, they probably wouldn't make much money from stuff like that so it doesn't happen.

I actually do agree with how diehards get nothing because there is no money to be made...

Even with these weekly videos from Philly, we got Living On A Prayer and Its My Life... How many ****ing times are we going to get these songs? There are 30 other hits and singles that make up the Bon Jovi catalog... What's next, Bad Name?

I'll Be There For You was a nice surprise though...

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See? I knew there had to be one or two things we could agree on. :)

Stop... it's not that bad

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I know. Just kidding...

The prices are a ****ing disgrace tbh ... And while I shouldnt really compare... I got to see Myles Kennedy the other friday at a intimate hometown venue... Solo songs Slash songs and some acoustic takes on some Alterbridge songs all for a total of about £40 brilliant night and all I kept thinking was how I would love to experience that kind of gig with Jon and his guitar... Will never happen unless I sell a kidney... Shame

You're comparing apples to oranges...

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True. Even when excluding the touring with the band, these Runaway ticket prices are a slap in the face of every fan.

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Myles Kennedy can't sell out stadiums and doesn't have top 40 hits to back him up and his name. It's a valid point but you can't use someone at his level to Bon Jovis, not by a long shot.

I was stalking some Keith Urban Nashville tickets a few weeks ago. Lower bowl, middle of arena. But they were priced based on something called “dynamic pricing” from Ticketmaster (NOT the same as Verified Resale) and the tickets were approximately $700 each BEFORE Ticketmaster fees.

Concerts are just getting more and more expensive, pricing out working class people, especially those who have to make a significant trip just to attend a show.

I saw them in Rock in Rio (they were before Jovi), they had some fans over there, well... I’m not a fan of them...

I guess with money you can open the new soul kitchen in Philadelphia at the end of this year (JBJ said he got everything almost ready) and of course he can do whatever he wants with his money and with his business, the no hotel option (usually for locals) is $1,595.00

The cost of these packages are - and always have been - a disgrace. Someone should call Jon on it.

Initially all the packages were with hotel, lately there's a no hotel option but I know people still find them too expensive...

Jon will only make those shows more affordable if those deluded soccer moms stop going to those Runaway shows just to ask him a question and stare at his ass.

Im still amazed that some people think that this is how these tours work. The overheads etc arent coming out of Jons / Bon Jovi Corp. pockets.

A promoter will offer up to Jon a flat rate fee that covers X amount of shows with add ons for things like merch depending on the contract. Its this fee that helps determine ticket prices.

Once the promoter has offered up Jon the money for the tour they then need to recoup that fee from ticket sales and merch (if included in the contract) after paying out all the other overheads - crew, venue, security etc. Jon is paid the same fee regardless whether they sell out a show or not. There may be a stipulation that X amount of seats will cost a maxium amount (say $25) so its upto the promoter what gets charged elsewhere in the venue so they can ultimately make a profit.

For the general tours that could very well be the case, but I seriously doubt that the insane Runaway tours ticket prices are out of Jon's control.

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Apart of the high price, what I hate most is seat assignment.
If you become their favorite customer (pay the most through the past trips or kiss their asses) or kiss ass of those favorites and become their group member or have kids attend or are youngster or male, you are highly likely to enjoy a great seat (near stage) or have a chance to give a question to or get a personal gift from Jon or the crew.
If you are favorites of them or Jon or are liked by those people, you sometimes get invited for free with a great seat.
And you want to continue doing Runaway.

I’m not rich nor don’t want to kiss their asses (because it’s not cool at all and embarrassing) so I don’t do Runaway anymore. (Yes, I have done a few trips, but I'm smart enough to learn.)
Besides, I don’t like parties, do hate alcohol. Photo with Jon or the band is nice, but I don’t like Jon’s fake smile nor tired smile.

Because of bitter memories, I stopped to do Runaway. Instead, I tried to buy VIP packages at band’s shows when I was able to earn and save enough because I was able to choose my seat before buying with such a money.

Having said that, I actually considered doing this trip in addition to The Queen+Adam Lambert residence shows. Even if my seat is in the last row and my question isn’t answered, I’m sure I will have a blast at least at The Queen+Adam Lambert shows.
But when I noticed the venue (theater) capacity is approx. 2,000, I changed my mind immediately.

Easily we could be friends, I went to the Mexico party my only friends were the persons who attended the drinks ‘cause they spoke in Spanish and literally I only drank apple juice that night lol

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