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Wrath Mania 07-12-2010 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1003969)

Post of the month. Excellent.

bjmjpl 07-12-2010 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 1003910)
There could be something in this, after all Doc McGhee got busted for importing drugs, which is one of the reasons they fired him. Maybe there's more to this than what has come out.

Ice

exactly my thought - or he is just hyping up the connection with doc where the issue was in the first place...

Crushgen24/88 07-12-2010 08:47 AM

You guys are way overreacting to this. It's an unauthorized bio, nothing more. They've come out about every band under the sun, and they'll continue to do so. The world isn't going to end, and things aren't going to "get bad."

Wrath Mania 07-12-2010 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88 (Post 1004114)
You guys are way overreacting to this. It's an unauthorized bio, nothing more. They've come out about every band under the sun, and they'll continue to do so. The world isn't going to end, and things aren't going to "get bad."

Look, I've pegged Jon as a kingpin druglord who used the band members as cattle to plow his opium fields for years now. And I always knew he was capable of murder; the man clearly romances about wanting to be in the mob. This speculation is- clearly- based on firm reality. And you are- clearly- not being realistic by dismissing this all as ridiculous fantasy.

Clearly.

steel_horse75 07-12-2010 01:57 PM

Those who are worried really need to get out more.
If the band were that worried they would get an legal injunction out against it.

rocknation 07-12-2010 02:36 PM

The band dabbled in sex and drugs? Wow, front page news!

dcj28 07-12-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman (Post 1003910)
There could be something in this, after all Doc McGhee got busted for importing drugs, which is one of the reasons they fired him. Maybe there's more to this than what has come out.

Ice

Doc Mcghee was still the manager when BJ did the Moscow Festival in 89, this was set up by Mcghee as part of his "punishment" (to make him look likegood according to The Dirt)for the drugs bust. He also formed the Make a Difference Foundation(an anti drug organization) which if I remember rightly BJ were involved in. According to many reports from different bands drugs were readily available on the flights over to Moscow. There were photos of all the bands getting off the same plane years ago.

Iceman 07-13-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dcj28 (Post 1004165)
Doc Mcghee was still the manager when BJ did the Moscow Festival in 89, this was set up by Mcghee as part of his "punishment" (to make him look likegood according to The Dirt)for the drugs bust. He also formed the Make a Difference Foundation(an anti drug organization) which if I remember rightly BJ were involved in. According to many reports from different bands drugs were readily available on the flights over to Moscow. There were photos of all the bands getting off the same plane years ago.

"Doc McGhee is arrested on a charge of assisting to smuggle forty thousand pounds of marijuana into North Carolina from Colombia in 1982, prior to his association with the Crüe. He has previously been busted for bringing a shipment of cocaine into the state of Louisiana, so this is his second drug trafficking charge. After pleading guilty, McGhee receives a five-year suspended prison sentence, a fine of $15,000, and is ordered to set up an anti-drugs foundation. McGhee calls it the Make A Difference Foundation."

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~cruekiss/88.htm

The sentences he got became public in 1988.

Ice

JoviForever 07-13-2010 07:44 PM

I don't think this is going to cause many ripples.
It obviously isn't being released by a recognised publisher as they are only selling it independently.
It certainly isn't showing on any of the well knwn websites like Play or Amazon.

GabrielC 07-27-2010 09:13 AM

http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/26/jon-bo...book-pictures/

Shit :x

lyelro 07-27-2010 11:54 AM

First post! Been lurking for ages. So refreshing to be able to say what you think.


Personally I think the main issue will be personal embarrassment for Jon, and him dreading his family/political/charity friends and associates etc seeing them. Especially the older children. But the photos were taken 25 odd years ago. I reckon he should be able to just laugh them off.


How many of us did things in our twenties that we would rather stayed hidden from our present partners/colleagues etc. I know I have LOL. But then I'm not a celebrity and it's not of any interest to anyone!
The band wouldn't have been thinking about these getting out 25 odd years later.

I doubt if they will do the band any harm. Jon just needs to keep his cool over something that is old news really anyway, and let his publicity machine deal with the press etc.

I guess there could be a danger of some additional "kiss n tell" stuff coming out. I don't know how they have managed to keep all their "secrets" so firmly in the circle all these years.

But then I don't remember anything much following on from the revelations in the former body guards book "Starman". Don't remember the Zuccuni twins ever coming forward to cash in LOL. They have probably already been well paid off anyway!

Jack27 07-27-2010 02:38 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ked-girls.html

TheJerseySyndicate 07-27-2010 03:53 PM

http://94wysp.radio.com/2010/07/27/r...view-07-27-10/

interview with the author rich bozzet.

KeepTheFaith2211 07-27-2010 03:55 PM

I don't think this'll change anything. Bon Jovi will still be known as that 'guy who sings Livin' On A Prayer'. Nobody'll be bothered.

AmyHarket 07-27-2010 04:15 PM

Ew! Gross! Ahhh my eyes got decayed.......but good to know that the former tour manager admitted those photos were set-up and taken in the band's 2nd album era, So, those disgraceful photos were not taken in the band's private photos and they were single then.

As far as Jon's wife, she is cool about Rock star life as Jon already said in April 2008 and he never lie to her (i.e, tell her if he slept with a woman), which is gross to me but that's their business and they are fine with that.
What is problem is about their children. Even though those photos were set-up, those are visually shocking to see. I don't know how Jon and his wife are going to keep preventing their children from those photos. :(

************************************************** ***********
They were taken by famed photographer Ross Marino in 1985 when Jon was just 22, busy promoting second album 7800°Fahrenheit.

It wasn't until the release of Bon Jovi's third album, Slippery When Wet that the band shot to superstardom.

The never-published pictures were kept locked away for more than 20 years by the band's former tour manager, Rich Bozzett, who has included them in his new book charting his time with the band.

He told Mail Online he tracked them down years after they were taken at the request of Bon Jovi, who asked him to destroy them after remembering their existence following his rise to fame.


But Bozzett kept them along with other memorabilia from his seven years with the band.

He said he had great memories of travelling the world with the unknown band during their rise to fame - and particularly of Jon Bon Jovi.

'He treated me very well, I felt he was a nice person, and very genuine.'

He said he remembers the photoshoot well - and that Bon Jovi enjoyed it.

'Back at that time, you're a young man, you're going to enjoy something like that,' he said.

But he said that the shoot was a set-up, with Bon Jovi already dating the woman who would become his wife, his teenage sweetheart, Dorothea Hurley, the mother of his four children.

'We were trying to toughen up the image,' he explained, saying the huge record sales of bands like Motley Crue inspired the idea.

BonJovi100 07-27-2010 05:22 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...84_634x445.jpg
Hmmm. So this included VIP packages in 1985?? It was special offert only for woman?? What was included in VIP packages for man?? Do we get "Gays, drugs and Bon Jovi part2 ??"... Interesting...

I'm just kidding ;] But I'm litte worry about photos with M.JAckson. We all know that he liked boys and in 1985 Jon was quite pretty boy... and Richie to :cool:

Supersonic 07-27-2010 05:31 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by AmyHarket (Post 1007805)
Even though those photos were set-up, those are visually shocking to see. I don't know how Jon and his wife are going to keep preventing their children from those photos. :(

Are you one of those people who thought that Janet Jackson's nipple "accident" during the Superbowl had also messed up the mind of the children?

Their children know the marriage of Jon and Dorothea. Saying this is shocking for their children pretty much means that you either wouldn't or didn't educate your children well enough about true love or joking about true love.

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Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 1007800)
I don't think this'll change anything. Bon Jovi will still be known as that 'guy who sings Livin' On A Prayer'. Nobody'll be bothered.

That's the way us in Europe would handle this. I've been in America for only a short while now but have found out that this indeed could destroy Jon's reputation, because many Americans are that narrow minded.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

AmyHarket 07-27-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1007824)
Aloha !



Are you one of those people who thought that Janet Jackson's nipple "accident" during the Superbowl had also messed up the mind of the children?

Their children know the marriage of Jon and Dorothea. Saying this is shocking for their children pretty much means that you either wouldn't or didn't educate your children well enough about true love or joking about true love.



That's the way us in Europe would handle this. I've been in America for only a short while now but have found out that this indeed could destroy Jon's reputation, because many Americans are that narrow minded.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan



I don't know if they educated their children well enough about true love but I'm sure they are trying. I think "live before you die" is such song for their children.
Those disgusting photos of their father have been unofficially published now and if they made fun of them with those photos,,,,,,,,,,I just hope they are strong enough like their mother.

KeepTheFaith2211 07-27-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AmyHarket (Post 1007850)
I don't know if they educated their children well enough about true love but I'm sure they are trying. I think "Learn To Love" is such song for their children.
Those disgusting photos of their father have been unofficially published now and if they made fun of them with those photos,,,,,,,,,,I just hope they are strong enough like their mother.

I don't think they really are 'disgusting' if you put it into perspective. He probably got found in a lot worse situations, to be honest. He's a good looking guy who was a rockstar in the 80s, afterall...

Becky 07-27-2010 09:42 PM

Since it's staged, it's not much different from an actor/actress doing a scene in a movie. When the guy providing the pictures tells you they were done to toughen up the image, it just becomes a bad professional decision.

ticos_stick 07-27-2010 09:53 PM

This is a non story.

Rock band has sex and takes drugs? I expect that. I'd be more shocked if you told me they went backstage and drank tea and ate Hummus.

Motley Crue made sure the bar was set sky high for Rock Star behaviour and they haven't been beaten since.

† ÀžžÀ † 07-27-2010 09:55 PM

this whole book has evoked a complete over reaction from some fans. the pictures are hardly shocking, if anything they're simply amusing. this will have next to no effect on the band's image/credibility etc. it'll all be forgotten withing weeks.

milomom 07-27-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1007854)
Since it's staged, it's not much different from an actor/actress doing a scene in a movie. When the guy providing the pictures tells you they were done to toughen up the image, it just becomes a bad professional decision.

I agree completely.

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Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1007857)
This is a non story.

Rock band has sex and takes drugs? I expect that. I'd be more shocked if you told me they went backstage and drank tea and ate Hummus.

Motley Crue made sure the bar was set sky high for Rock Star behaviour and they haven't been beaten since.

ROFLOL @ the tea and hummus! Good one.

This whole thing is just laughable. Do I think they were angels? No. Do I think they were Satan come to life? No to that, too. I think they probably enjoyed the benefits of being rock stars, but they were all smart and/or lucky enough to make it through without too much damage.

Mongoose 07-27-2010 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AmyHarket (Post 1007850)
I don't know if they educated their children well enough about true love but I'm sure they are trying. I think "Learn To Love" is such song for their children.
Those disgusting photos of their father have been unofficially published now and if they made fun of them with those photos,,,,,,,,,,I just hope they are strong enough like their mother.


Man, backstage down today or something?!

Kathleen 07-28-2010 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose (Post 1007875)
Man, backstage down today or something?!

Must be :roll:

MJB12 07-28-2010 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose (Post 1007875)
Man, backstage down today or something?!

Haha!

I'm still curious to read it, but I'm not paying $25 for it. I would swing by Borders or Barnes Noble and sit down a flip through it, but I doubt it will ever see the light of day in an actual store.

Supersonic 07-28-2010 02:56 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by AmyHarket (Post 1007850)
I don't know if they educated their children well enough about true love but I'm sure they are trying. I think "live before you die" is such song for their children.
Those disgusting photos of their father have been unofficially published now and if they made fun of them with those photos,,,,,,,,,,I just hope they are strong enough like their mother.

Apparantly you didn't get educated well enough about true love as you're the one incapable of proper judgement when it comes to this situation. All Jon's kids need to know is that he loves their mom. He's been with her for a long time, cheated several times, they all made it through and yet you think you can actually tell what's wrong with this situation yet you haven't got a clue of how to judge this.

There's nothing disgusting about these photos, it's just a bunch of naked women and I'm sure these kids have seen naked women themselves. We're not all idiots who think porn is evil and that you should only be naked under the shower or unless you're making babies, you know. Good looking naked women rock, and Jon got plenty of them. If there's one thing his sons will be it's jealous once they reach puberty. They certainly won't be upset, sad or confused about Jon's love for Dorothea.

The reason why these pictures get published is because you create such a stigma around them. It's people like you that cause the stir, because it's people like you who don't get it.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

rocknation 07-28-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1007854)
Since it's staged, it's not much different from an actor/actress doing a scene in a movie. When the guy providing the pictures tells you they were done to toughen up the image, it just becomes a bad professional decision.

"Toughen up" the image? I realize that's why they stopped smiling in their photos--to chase away the "squealing teenagers." But if that was their goal, how does posing with naked female "adults" make you look "tougher"? http://www.rocktivity.com/Graphics/shrug.gif

bitterwine 07-28-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1007824)
Aloha !



Are you one of those people who thought that Janet Jackson's nipple "accident" during the Superbowl had also messed up the mind of the children?

Their children know the marriage of Jon and Dorothea. Saying this is shocking for their children pretty much means that you either wouldn't or didn't educate your children well enough about true love or joking about true love.



That's the way us in Europe would handle this. I've been in America for only a short while now but have found out that this indeed could destroy Jon's reputation, because many Americans are that narrow minded.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Yes you are right, many Americans are that narrow minded. But many Americans would not be that narrow minded.

I hate seeing someone come visit America, and then leave lumping us all together with the likes of someone like AMYHARKET! America is a big country, perhaps if you visit again you will get to see more of the other half of us. We are here, maybe we just need to start being louder, so visitors can find us, instead of the idiots.

On to the book and pics. Not shocking, not disgusting, still goes on today in America. Any American who is screaming that it is, obviously has blinders on, or has never stepped foot on a college campus. Must not watch TV, read the newspaper or have internet, must not have kids or must choose to pretend their kids don't do bad things.

Supersonic 07-28-2010 04:50 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by bitterwine (Post 1007959)
I hate seeing someone come visit America, and then leave lumping us all together with the likes of someone like AMYHARKET! America is a big country, perhaps if you visit again you will get to see more of the other half of us. We are here, maybe we just need to start being louder, so visitors can find us, instead of the idiots.

Oh believe me, I've met plenty of Americans who aren't idiots. You'll have to agree though that the stupid people in your country are very vocal, otherwise your country wouldn't have the reputation it has now. :)

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Becky 07-28-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1007956)
"Toughen up" the image? I realize that's why they stopped smiling in their photos--to chase away the "squealing teenagers." But if that was their goal, how does posing with naked female "adults" make you look "tougher"? http://www.rocktivity.com/Graphics/shrug.gif

Why are you asking me? The guy who wrote the book is the one who said it was to toughen up the image.

I guess it was because bands like Motley Crue had a sleazey reputation and were considered tough guys and they were trying to compete in that market. It's actually kind of funny that this guy is trying to cause so much controversy and in the next breath says Jon was "basically squeaky clean." Way to CYA, dude.

luceknight 07-28-2010 05:26 PM

I dont get this guy. Really..

So, anyone here has the book already? :D

rocknation 07-28-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1007963)
Why are you asking me? The guy who wrote the book is the one who said it was to toughen up the image.

My question was metaphoric, and it WAS directed at the guy who wrote the book. Friends?
http://www.rocktivity.com/Graphics/toast.gif

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1007963)
It's actually kind of funny that this guy is trying to cause so much controversy and in the next breath says Jon was "basically squeaky clean." Way to CYA, dude.

Well, now that it's come out that he was asked to destroy the pics but didn't, AND obviously didn't tell anyone, he's not looking so "squeaky clean" himself, is he? What goes around comes around, dude!


Becky 07-28-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1007967)
My question was metaphoric, not personal--it WAS directed at the guy who wrote the book. Friends?
http://www.rocktivity.com/Graphics/toast.gif

Friends! :)

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Well, now that it's come out that he was asked to destroy the pics but didn't, AND obviously didn't tell anyone, he's not looking so "squeaky clean" himself, is he? What comes around goes around--instant karma's gonna get you, dude! :D
It does make him look bad.

Crushgen24/88 07-28-2010 07:03 PM

Where'd all the narrow-minded people come from? Backstage explode?

RSROCKS 07-28-2010 08:20 PM

This book is being so overblown by the fanbase it's ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with the pictures.

I also don't get all the backlash the author is getting from fans. Richie Bozzett can write whatever he wants, he owes Bon Jovi nothing. If he wants to cash in, let him, it's freedom of speech. If you don't agree with what he's doing, just don't buy the book but bitching about him or the book won't change a thing. It's already released.

The kids argument is ridiculous too. It has probably had little or no effect on Jon's kids or any of their kids for that matter. Richie probably put his daughter through more by getting arrested a few years ago than this book will ever be capable of doing.

Wrath Mania 08-02-2010 12:14 PM

So did anyone actually read this? Come on, I wanna know if Jon put a hit out on that photographer or not.

luceknight 08-02-2010 04:39 PM

Yea! And the pics! Pls...tell us whats in there XDD

Makedde 08-03-2010 07:04 AM

Can't find it in stores yet, I assume it ain't been released yet.

MJB12 08-03-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Makedde (Post 1009019)
Can't find it in stores yet, I assume it ain't been released yet.

I think it's only going to be available for purchase online, as it doesn't have a major distributor. It was "released" a couple of weeks ago but not in stores or even on Amazon.


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