Sorry I snatched the bait. ;)

(Not sure it would have worked anyway; he's pretty close-mouthed on the subject. But nice try!)

When I shared some of the initial information I was given (way back when all this broke) I was warned off disclosing much more by fellow users on this very forum...

I'm not asking you to disclose anything that you're not comfortable disclosing; but a question occurred to me.

Is your source someone who knows what happened first-hand, for him- or herself? Or is s/he someone who is just close enough to have gotten the information directly from Richie, Jon, or someone in one camp or the other? Like a trickle down, say to a crew member or someone...

I wouldn’t call this person a source as it makes me sound like some sort of investigative journalist!

I can say they’ve met both Jon and Richie but not so many times as to be considered a friend, their information didn’t come from either of them.

Remember however I said in 2013 they’d told me Richie wouldn’t be back. So it proved.

Sorry? :)

Thanks for the info. Not that I doubt your word, or theirs; but I'm still hoping there's a "so far" hiding out there, somewhere after "So it proved..."


"Cuts can heal; scars can fade..."

https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-j...ml#post1246508


Maybe for JBJ good intention would be no more of his "habits" (only because "habits" seems the word of the week...)

Do you honestly think Jon and David would each say (more than once) that Richie's "habits," "drug addiction," and "demons" are the reason if it wasn't? Why do you need for them specially say something like 'Richie partied his ass off drinking booze and doing drugs during the two week break and he was too hammered to get on a plane for the show' for you to believe them?

Something else entirely like suddenly wanting to stay home with his 16 year old kid? Or not wanting to be on another <insert invented number of shows/countries> tour anymore? Or not liking the direction of the band's music and suddenly deciding to quit mid-tour to be a solo artist and jam with fabric on the side? Or just being sick of Jon's shit? Then explain why a just month later he had already started talking to the press about hoping and planning to rejoin the band on tour.


May 2013

"I would love to be in London for the Hyde Park Bon Jovi show on the July 5th… Let's see what happens."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/usshowbi...departure.html


June 2013

"So this tour, we can say, you won't be on it."

"No, that's not true. Not true."



Richie later tweeted:

Hey all, to those who saw that interview from the fashion show it was about my hopes. Nothing's really happening yet...

https://twitter.com/therealsambora/s...025972736?s=21


June 2013

"We rely on each other and I think that's it,' he said. 'It'll all work out in the end."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-tour-him.html


July 2013

"Things are coming together."

"Is it going to be resolved?"

"Of course it is. It has to."

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VbQun_ZU...ature=youtu.be

From what he said in Chicago, I don't think he ever will. The closest he ever got to anything about being fired was "Jon's making it difficult for me to come back." And recently, when he was asked if there's a backstory, he said, "Yeah, but I'm not going there. I have more class than that."

IMO, he's done explaining; because 1) he seems to truly believe in not airing dirty laundry, 2) he knows it would be "he said/he said" and most fans would take Jon's word, anyway; 3) people believe what they want to believe; and in "Lighthouse", he wrote: "those that judge don't matter, and those that matter don't judge."

Yes, it seems he left on his own; so that puts the onus on him, regardless. That's why I said, from the start, that he must have had a very good reason because, as you say, he knows Jon (and the business) better than we do. If I knew that Jon wouldn't stop the tour or forgive easily, and that a lot of fans would turn on him, you know he knew it. IF he was drunk, stoned, strung out... whatever... that goes out the window; but I haven't seen anything yet to convince me of that. So I'm still going with "a good reason." Even if I never know what it is. :)

I thought it was you. It's a distinctive name, and whether we agreed or not, your posts were always well thought out.

(I hate passwords! Once, I actually used "IHatePasswords". Then forgot what website it was for.):)

I need to jump on this:

So yes, Jon came off bitter during that interview... Why? Who knows. Maybe the lady bringing up his hair and calling it the frizz threw him off or maybe it was something else...

I think him calling Kim out had to do with her and Kanye being Trump supporters... Was it intentionally done or did the moment just present itself? Not sure... He's bitched about this stuff before so maybe the moment to take the shot just presented itself! Or were there other intentions?

As far as Jon calling out Richie, I think he's just ready to come clean about it... He kinda went there on Howard but sure, five years later, it's time...

In the beginning there was a some uncertainty so Jon just left that part out. Don't forget, Richie's been abusing his entire life since the 80s but just had it more under control...

It's five years later, Richie's done some Bon Jovi basing on his own, they both come to terms of moving in different directions and that's it... I'm sure Jon's hearing some of the speculation rumors about Richie leaving because Jon was being too controlling or Jon being a dictator with the musical direction... Jon's probably like, F it!!! I'm coming clean...

Now, was Jon trying to create some buzz to promote his ticket sales in Europe? It's very possible. Or was it just pure coincidental? That's possible too...

Not sure..

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yeah, it’s not the first time that JBJ speaks publicly about the Kardashians, many years ago he talked about it almost with the same words... he’s always saying this kind of things, like with JLo, Steve Jobs, Madonna, Justin Beiber, etc.