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zero_zero_UFO 11-09-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 782917)
uuuh churchbells to start the song --? (church)Bells of freedom.
Wich bells do you think they were?

Hells Bells by ACDC starts off with bells... bells doesn't = religion in my opinion.
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GeoMar 11-10-2007 03:36 AM

It doesn't strike me as religious, any more than a typical BJ song. It's about overcoming defeat, moving on past hard times, taking control of your life, etc.

In fact I remember reading that this song was inspired by Jon's disappointment over the 2004 presidential election.

On a separate note, this song sounds a lot like This Aint A Love Song 2005!

Alphavictim 11-10-2007 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by zero_zero_UFO (Post 783053)
Hells Bells by ACDC starts off with bells... bells doesn't = religion in my opinion.

Damn, I was gonna say that.

I never thought of it as a religious song either. For the record: I like it a lot - some people seem to hate it, but it's a good ballad IMO. BOF, not HB. But I like HB as well!

Supersonic 11-11-2007 10:12 PM

Aloha !

You sound a lot like Dawn who claimed I'll Be There For You was a religious song because Jon was praying to god. Oh yeah.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

TheseDays2005 11-11-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 784223)
Aloha !

You sound a lot like Dawn who claimed I'll Be There For You was a religious song because Jon was praying to god. Oh yeah.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

LMFAO well altough Dawn & I share a lot of love in our online marriage its exacly the opposite, but I get where you going. But I'm a real dutch guy and those bells are just plain church bells for a boer.
Even though those crazy Americans says they stand for freedom, its still equal to me - it are church bells, ie message of song church = freedom = a ****ing lie

sambos apprentice 11-11-2007 10:37 PM

loads of their songs are littered with catholic references...

my favourite being "i want to be just as close as

the holy ghost is..."


that s a phenomenal lyric....


keep the faith....dont let your love turn to hate....

born to be my baby....if we re goin to really scrutinise you could say that is Genesis re-told for the 80s


their faith as children has helped to forge who they are.

TheseDays2005 11-11-2007 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sambos apprentice (Post 784238)
loads of their songs are littered with catholic references...

my favourite being "i want to be just as close as

the holy ghost is..."


that s a phenomenal lyric....


keep the faith....dont let your love turn to hate....

born to be my baby....if we re goin to really scrutinise you could say that is Genesis re-told for the 80s


their faith as children has helped to forge who they are.

those are more in general, could be any religion. Its almost in all BJ songs except for Living in Sin as I can remember now (probs more).
Something to believe in could be interperet that way, but I still believe that it is alcohol wich is to believe in

Supersonic 11-11-2007 10:41 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 784231)
church bells for a boer.
Even though those crazy Americans says they stand for freedom, its still equal to me - it are church bells, ie message of song church = freedom = a ****ing lie

A boer you obviously are, but anyone who's getting married, or sees a couple getting married in the church doesn't experience it as a religious thing either, even when the church bells ring while a couple is leaving the church.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

TheseDays2005 11-11-2007 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 784241)
Aloha !



A boer you obviously are, but anyone who's getting married, or sees a couple getting married in the church doesn't experience it as a religious thing either, even when the church bells ring while a couple is leaving the church.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I have been to a lot of wedding the last years, but none of them were in a church, its not like I am a boer in kaatsheuvel. :p

But none of them went to church for marriage so obviously they weren't religious enough to go to curch and just go to local goverment. So for them, church and therefore those bells are religious.

But I understand now that in the US it has a different meaning

sambos apprentice 11-12-2007 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005 (Post 784240)
those are more in general, could be any religion. Its almost in all BJ songs except for Living in Sin as I can remember now (probs more).
Something to believe in could be interperet that way, but I still believe that it is alcohol wich is to believe in

that was precisely my point....their catholic upbringing has undoubtedly been an influence on their music....well lyrically...

pax V

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