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bonjovi90 04-21-2022 10:13 PM

#11 - Enterprise Center, St. Louis, Missouri, April 21st 2022
 
https://bjtours.jimdofree.com/the-to...ouis-missouri/

Setlist:
01. Limitless
02. The Radio Saved My Life Tonight
03. You Give Love A Bad Name
04. We Weren't Born To Follow
05. It's My Life
06. Beautiful Drug
07. Born To Be My Baby
08. This House Is Not For Sale
09. Just Older
10. Let It Rain
11. Keep The Faith
12. American Reckoning
13. Whole Lot Of Leavin'
14. Do What You Can
15. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
16. Lost Highway
17. Roller Coaster
18. Have A Nice Day
19. Livin' On A Prayer

Encore I:
20. Wanted Dead Or Alive
21. Who Says You Can't Go Home
22. Bad Medicine

Encore II:
23. I'll Be There For You




Round 11, 5 shows to go. Will the songs off 2020 that have been ignored thus far still make it to the setlists? Or another ballad?

Last time the band played in the St. Louis was on February 19th, 2017:
https://bjtours.jimdofree.com/the-to...-missouri-usa/

Setlist:

01. This House Is Not For Sale
02. Knockout
03. You Give Love A Bad Name
04. Lost Highway
05. Whole Lot of Leavin'
06. Roller Coaster
07. Work For the Working Man
08. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
09. We Got It Goin' On
10. Who Says You Can't Go Home
11. It's My Life
12. We Don't Run
13. God Bless This Mess
14. Scars On This Guitar
15. The Devil's in the Temple
16. Lay Your Hands On Me
17. Born To Be My Baby
18. Have a Nice Day
19. Bad Medicine
20. Keep the Faith

Encore:
21. Raise Your Hands
22. Because We Can
23. Wanted Dead or Alive
24. Livin' on a Prayer

hackster73 04-21-2022 11:04 PM

Just look at the lack of interest..

This tour is basically the same set list as the THINFS tour, maybe 4/5 changes, so boring and quite frankly not good enough.

Panda 04-21-2022 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1279289)
12. We Don't Run
13. God Bless This Mess
14. Scars On This Guitar
15. The Devil's in the Temple

There is no way anyone actually enjoyed this part of the show, yikes

bonjovi90 04-21-2022 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda (Post 1279295)
There is no way anyone actually enjoyed this part of the show, yikes

I probably would've been asleep after this section anyway :mrgreen:

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04. Lost Highway
05. Whole Lot of Leavin'
06. Roller Coaster
07. Work For the Working Man
08. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
09. We Got It Goin' On
10. Who Says You Can't Go Home

StickToYourGuns45 04-22-2022 06:23 AM

Assuming the show is over.

According to Setlist.fm:

01. Limitless
02. The Radio Saved My Life Tonight
03. You Give Love A Bad Name
04. We Weren't Born To Follow
05. It's My Life
06. Beautiful Drug
07. Born To Be My Baby

Javier 04-22-2022 07:08 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/Qdk5Qzts/Screen...5-Facebook.jpg

Don't know if any changes were made with audibles and such but this is the printed setlist....
Even though that middle part of American Reckoning, Whole lot of leavin and Do what you can seems do be a drag I can see why they are keeping the set this way. It definitely seems to flow better than what it was at the start of these 15 shows, which I think is getting a better response from the crowds so from the bands perspective, it definitely makes sense to keep this flow....
Edit. I'll be there for you ended the show with Jon walking off stage and the band playing on similar to when they used to end woth This ain't a love song. And Phil looked mighty confused about ending the song lol!!!

rolo_tomachi 04-22-2022 10:34 AM


GabrielC 04-22-2022 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1279305)

That ending had everybody confused

Captmorgs 04-22-2022 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1279305)


A few ad libs too.


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blazeofglory 04-22-2022 04:01 PM

In that I'll Be There For You clip it really does look like Jon's not wearing in-ears (even though it's kinda hard to tell with his hair lol). I wonder if and how much that plays into his pitchy-ness and why he stopped wearing them in the first place.

bonjovi90 04-22-2022 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blazeofglory (Post 1279313)
In that I'll Be There For You clip it really does look like Jon's not wearing in-ears (even though it's kinda hard to tell with his hair lol). I wonder if and how much that plays into his pitchy-ness and why he stopped wearing them in the first place.

Up until the end of 2019, he was still wearing them and had similar pitch issues since about 2015.

Richie said (I think it's even a quote in the WWWB book) that he is half deaf after all the years of touring and he had been using floor monitors for a few tours before his departure.
Not sure if that's a personal preference or them both having abandoned in-ears really is connected to potential hearing problems.

Btw. Does anyone remember the backstage video where the sound setup was explained and the one doing it (Mike Rew?) talked about Jon and Richie preferring different monitors?


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Thinny 04-22-2022 06:20 PM

Is it me or did Jon seem quite emotional at the end there. Could have just been him acting. Maybe there is some realisation there that he may not be able to do this for a whole lot longer. I do think this tour, and the media reception, has to have Jon thinking...

I'm probably just overthinking it though...

bonjovi90 04-22-2022 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1279315)
Is it me or did Jon seem quite emotional at the end there. Could have just been him acting. Maybe there is some realisation there that he may not be able to do this for a whole lot longer. I do think this tour, and the media reception, has to have Jon thinking...

I'm probably just overthinking it though...

I was actually under the very same impression, just didn't wanna post it because of the "I think they will go on for x years if they just do y and z..." comments.
He either was really thankful or wanted to have HIS moment with the big exit since he kind of knew it may have been the last show in that town. For whatever reason. But something seemed a little different to me, like something made him more emotional than normally.

rolo_tomachi 04-22-2022 07:02 PM

It's like watching those movies where the superhero loses his powers.


Seems a ghost.

bonjovi90 04-22-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1279317)

When Jon wrote the line "I need a respirator, I'm running out of breath...", he probably didn't imagine it ringing true in THAT certain way three decades later.

rolo_tomachi 04-22-2022 07:21 PM





Do you think Jon will tour more in the future, or is this his finish line? I'm sad, damn, it's not cool at all to see Jon like this. It seems that the negative reviews are affecting him. For years Jon has sucking, but he seemed to be ok. Now, there's something emotional that he can't hide with those smiles. Worried... about what comes after April.

jovifan85 04-22-2022 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1279319)
Michael Sweet Defends Jon Bon Jovi - YouTube




Do you think Jon will tour more in the future, or is this his finish line? I'm sad, damn, it's not cool at all to see Jon like this. It seems that the negative reviews are affecting him. For years Jon has sucking, but he seemed to be ok. Now, there's something emotional that he can't hide with those smiles. Worried... about what comes after April.

I think Jon may Tour in 2023, only because it's the 40th Anniversary. I have a feeling this is the farewell tour, hopefully with Richie Sambora and Alec Such, maybe make a final album with them.

If it isn't......I will be happy still listening to Bon Jovi, even if the music isn't like the glory days, loved 2020, Beautiful Drug, Limitless, Brother In Arms, Blood In The Water, Shine and Luv Can.

rolo_tomachi 04-22-2022 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan85 (Post 1279320)
I think Jon may Tour in 2023, only because it's the 40th Anniversary. I have a feeling this is the farewell tour, hopefully with Richie Sambora and Alec Such, maybe make a final album with them.

If it isn't......I will be happy still listening to Bon Jovi, even if the music isn't like the glory days, loved 2020, Beautiful Drug, Brother In Arms, Blood In The Water, Shine and Luv Can.

Same feeling.I have always seen this as a gift, extra time, and I want it to continue to be. I'm still interested in hearing his new music, and I don't think there's a better compliment for an artist than this.

MellyMel 04-22-2022 09:10 PM

OH MY!!!! Watching those clips, Jon is really feeling the love from the crowd, but yes, he seems emotional too. Which makes me emotional, because the thought of this being the end breaks my heart. I’ve been going to show since the New Jersey tour. I went to Charlotte and Greenville this month, and I had a great time. Sure, his voice is shot, but I had fun, and it felt very nostalgic for me. I know he can’t go on much longer with the vocal issues, but the thought of THE END is so hard.

blazeofglory 04-22-2022 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1279314)
Up until the end of 2019, he was still wearing them and had similar pitch issues since about 2015.

Richie said (I think it's even a quote in the WWWB book) that he is half deaf after all the years of touring and he had been using floor monitors for a few tours before his departure.
Not sure if that's a personal preference or them both having abandoned in-ears really is connected to potential hearing problems.

That's true, but at least from the few clips I've watched from this tour it seems like his pitch issues got worse compared to 2019 and prior, so I wondered if the fact that he's hearing himself differently this tour might be a factor there. Of course it could also just be further physical decline.

Hearing problems could certainly be a factor, although, intuitively, I would assume that a singer with hearing problems would be even MORE likely to use in-ears as opposed to floor monitors since they're probably easier to adjust to a person's specific auditory needs 🤔

rolo_tomachi 04-22-2022 10:50 PM

Jon highlight moment of the show

Litneg 04-22-2022 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jovifan85 (Post 1279320)
I think Jon may Tour in 2023, only because it's the 40th Anniversary. I have a feeling this is the farewell tour, hopefully with Richie Sambora and Alec Such, maybe make a final album with them.

If it isn't......I will be happy still listening to Bon Jovi, even if the music isn't like the glory days, loved 2020, Beautiful Drug, Limitless, Brother In Arms, Blood In The Water, Shine and Luv Can.

Oh, if (IF) they are to stop touring, I really hope they keep doing music in studio. 2020 was much more than I expected and it's always good to hear new material. Of course the songs aren't as powerful as they were during the golden days, but still good! (Just older!)

YOVANAfromPeru 04-23-2022 02:30 AM

So if this I'll Be There For You was the best of this tour, then it sucks; even the new photographer stinks. Everything stinks in this tour, there are 4 more dates and nothing nice until now. This has been the most boring tour ever!
I even don't wanna watch the videos on youtube.
There's no highlight.
What a big piece of excrement!

rolo_tomachi 04-23-2022 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1279330)
So if this I'll Be There For You was the best of this tour, then it sucks; even the new photographer stinks. Everything stinks in this tour, there are 4 more dates and nothing nice until now. This has been the most boring tour ever!
I even don't wanna watch the videos on youtube.
There's no highlight.
What a big piece of excrement!

Don't Be Cruel

Litneg 04-23-2022 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1279330)
So if this I'll Be There For You was the best of this tour, then it sucks; even the new photographer stinks. Everything stinks in this tour, there are 4 more dates and nothing nice until now. This has been the most boring tour ever!
I even don't wanna watch the videos on youtube.
There's no highlight.
What a big piece of excrement!

Jezz. . .

bonjovi90 04-23-2022 09:37 AM

It was harshly worded, but she does have a point.
Objectively speaking, there's nothing from this tour where I could sit a random music fan who listens to Bon Jovi down and say "watch this, that was a good one!"
Most of the things that are deemed decent or good around here, they are more or less borderline tolerable at best.

KeepTheFaith2211 04-23-2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1279331)
Don't Be Cruel

Hi Rolo. Was it yourself who produced the photoshop of a book of Richie titled “REST”?

Also, the set list doesn’t change since Richie left does it

blazeofglory 04-23-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1279333)
Objectively speaking, there's nothing from this tour where I could sit a random music fan who listens to Bon Jovi down and say "watch this, that was a good one!"

I thought about this the other day as well how none of the things we’ve considered good or nice surprises (like the return of Radio and LTOR) on this tour are anywhere close to being good enough to actually show them to someone and be like “hey look, they brought back this song they haven’t played in a while!”.

Really the only thing you could show to someone is little snippets of nice instrumental moments, but that’s pretty much it.


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rolo_tomachi 04-23-2022 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 1279334)
Hi Rolo. Was it yourself who produced the photoshop of a book of Richie titled “REST”?

And other much worse things... but I always tried to put a parodic point, these were comic strips addressing the problem back then. When I sometimes cross the line, I reflect and look for a way to redeem myself... so to speak.

I have nothing against Yovanna or others who express themselves in this way, I know they love Jon and the band. But I don't like lynchings either. This is the way to express myself on this matter.


So you still remember some of my photoshops huh?

Remember that controversial photoshop of Richie and Orianthi walking around on the cover of the THINFS single, and John Shanks retweet with a like? hahaha.

steel_horse75 04-23-2022 01:27 PM

That was bobby brown

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facaXe 04-23-2022 04:49 PM

https://youtu.be/cJdaG6B1fAQ?t=337

this is just sad...

DryCounty 04-23-2022 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by facaXe (Post 1279342)

Holy shit… to call that bad would even be a compliment.

Captmorgs 04-23-2022 08:34 PM

Watching videos on YouTube and came across Dry County from St. Louis 2011:

https://youtu.be/sZUGsR0AfLY


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superkid 04-23-2022 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1279345)
Watching videos on YouTube and came across Dry County from St. Louis 2011:

https://youtu.be/sZUGsR0AfLY


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I know Jon sounds great here (especially by today's standards) but that solo was a train wreck. Looking back on that 2011 Richie-less leg those were some extremely disappointing shows. I was in Des Moines and that was possibly the worst Bon Jovi show I've attended. Even though he could still sing well that was him on "auto-pilot" mode, acting like he couldn't wait to get off stage as he breezed through the hits. The leg before it and after it contained some of the best shows of their career which is what makes it so disappointing. I really don't know why they didn't just postpone those shows until after the European leg in August/Sept, that would've been the right thing to do instead of just phoning it in for 15 shows.

With all of that said the setlist in Montreal on that leg looked pretty good. It's like Jon was just trolling American audiences at that point.

Captain_jovi 04-23-2022 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by superkid (Post 1279347)
I know Jon sounds great here (especially by today's standards) but that solo was a train wreck. Looking back on that 2011 Richie-less leg those were some extremely disappointing shows. I was in Des Moines and that was possibly the worst Bon Jovi show I've attended. Even though he could still sing well that was him on "auto-pilot" mode, acting like he couldn't wait to get off stage as he breezed through the hits. The leg before it and after it contained some of the best shows of their career which is what makes it so disappointing. I really don't know why they didn't just postpone those shows until after the European leg in August/Sept, that would've been the right thing to do instead of just phoning it in for 15 shows.

With all of that said the setlist in Montreal on that leg looked pretty good. It's like Jon was just trolling American audiences at that point.

Montreal and Toronto, while generally pretty vanilla sets, got one lesser-played song at just about every show until 2013. Thinking back we've gotten Living in Sin, Wild is the Wind, I Got The Girl, Miss 4th of July, Garageland, I Get a Rush, Dry County, Damned twice. Then it all just....stopped.

YOVANAfromPeru 04-24-2022 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1279332)
Jezz. . .

What's that?
Looks like you know about it

rolo_tomachi 04-24-2022 02:17 PM

Limitless performance

Limitless is a better opener to the shows than Beautiful Drug.

KeepTheFaith2211 04-24-2022 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1279336)
And other much worse things... but I always tried to put a parodic point, these were comic strips addressing the problem back then. When I sometimes cross the line, I reflect and look for a way to redeem myself... so to speak.

I have nothing against Yovanna or others who express themselves in this way, I know they love Jon and the band. But I don't like lynchings either. This is the way to express myself on this matter.


So you still remember some of my photoshops huh?

Remember that controversial photoshop of Richie and Orianthi walking around on the cover of the THINFS single, and John Shanks retweet with a like? hahaha.

Sorry! I wasn’t meaning to call you out. I just wanted to know if it was you who made it as I often think about it and laugh! :lol:

efpg0708 04-24-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by facaXe (Post 1279342)


I think that the current state of things is finally hitting him hard. This is one of the saddest Bon Jovi related videos I’ve ever seen …


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JackieBlue 04-24-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1279336)
And other much worse things...

So you still remember some of my photoshops huh?

Remember that controversial photoshop of Richie and Orianthi walking around on the cover of the THINFS single, and John Shanks retweet with a like? hahaha.

Hi Rolo!

Just popped in for a hot second to see how things were going on here and ran across this. I couldn't resist saying that the photoshopped THINFS cover was epic. BUT... while some ppl were offended by it (and I'm sorry about that), for my money, nothing will EVER top a "chestnut-haired" Jesus exiting the tomb on Easter Sunday morning!

Just sayin'... :D


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