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symbeline 02-14-2017 07:55 PM

Is Jon singing slower?
 
I've noticed from the soundboard recordings that the songs sound very slow. Even the new ones.

From the little I know about music, I think the instruments have not been toned down more than the habitual so it has to be Jon (or my ears)

He seems to be phrasing (?) very deliberately, skipping entire words instead of the weird pronunciation he did in the past when he was mashing words and sounds together. This seems to make his singing slower but still in sync with the instruments and it's probably helping his breathing also.

Or I'm just hallucinating :p

efpg0708 02-14-2017 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1218288)
I've noticed from the soundboard recordings that the songs sound very slow. Even the new ones.

From the little I know about music, I think the instruments have not been toned down more than the habitual so it has to be Jon (or my ears)

He seems to be phrasing (?) very deliberately, skipping entire words instead of the weird pronunciation he did in the past when he was mashing words and sounds together. This seems to make his singing slower but still in sync with the instruments and it's probably helping his breathing also.

Or I'm just hallucinating :p

I think he is ...

The way he is singing really bothers me ... His tone is horrible, and he doesn't sing naturally ... He's really strugling ...

It's my faith 02-15-2017 08:48 AM

Yes, that's a new one and I don't like it at all. The song loses energy that way, it's like slowing down everything. You can't do that on (example) Bad Medicine....

symbeline 02-17-2017 04:23 PM

Check this


Jon is out of sync in some moments which can be intentional but it gives the impression of a second rate tribute band

ticos_stick 02-17-2017 06:33 PM

It sounds like he's out of breath.

bonjovi90 02-17-2017 08:16 PM

He started being out of breath and out of sync a lot in the summer of 2013 before his voice went rapidly downhill. I hope it's not an indication of the same.

hchb2000 02-17-2017 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1218679)
It sounds like he's out of breath.

Nailed it! My thoughts exactly...

symbeline 02-17-2017 11:17 PM

He doesn't sound extremely out of breath to me. In 2015 he was during the whole song and it didn't seem as if it was a conscious choice to sing slower. I could be wrong though, I've only watched a few videos from that tour but I remember a spectacularly bad IML in that regard. Current IML is ok-ish, at least he's in sync.

Besides, how could he be out of breath if he's singing like every fifth word of the chorus? And it's BTBMB ffs. If he can't sing BTBMB, just call it a day. I've heard better drunken karaoke singing :(

Slowing down and skipping words may be a choice to preserve his voice/stamina during the show, but he's having trouble keeping in sync at least here and he shouldn't. I've heard Wanted and it was very very slow as well so either you are right and it's a breathing problem or he just run out of gas for the encore.

DryCounty 02-18-2017 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by symbeline (Post 1218669)
Check this

Bon Jovi - Born To Be My Baby @ BJCC, Birmingham, AL 02.16.2017 - YouTube

Jon is out of sync in some moments which can be intentional but it gives the impression of a second rate tribute band

Wow, Jon is horrible here, probably one of the worst BTBMB I've heard :(

Also, those Na Na Nas is just wrong... If I would have closed my eyes and listened I would never guess that was Bon Jovi live.

IML88 02-19-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1218722)
Wow, Jon is horrible here, probably one of the worst BTBMB I've heard :(

Also, those Na Na Nas is just wrong... If I would have closed my eyes and listened I would never guess that was Bon Jovi live.

That's the problem I have, they are too removed now. The loss of Sambora, the loss of Jon's voice, the slower tempo, the rearrangement of songs, they sound like a bad tribute act. Jon's charisma is shot too. They just aren't a draw for me anymore. I have very fond memories of this bad live and I think seeing them like this if they come over to the UK again will sully the good memories somewhat.

I didn't hate THINFS the album, so maybe that's all this band will be for me. Ow, studio albums and past work.


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