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bounce442 07-03-2013 02:43 PM

Desmond Child Talking about Writing LOAP
 
Good video of Desmond Child talking about the writing of Living on a Prayer. No big secret, but it interesting nonetheless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=X-vO_58XRKs

DevilsSon 07-03-2013 02:46 PM

So Tommy and Gina are not Jon's friends then, are they?

Here's him talking about You Give Love a Bad Name (and how it's basically a Bonnie Tyler rip-off - posted it in the Richie thread already):


Living_on_my_Hair 07-03-2013 03:26 PM

So, Gina was a real person then afterall eh? Do I not remember JBJ not saying it was someone he knew, but they had 'changed their names to protect their innocence'' or some crap? He says something like that on the MTV awards show acoustic performance.

But yeah, even if Desmond had more or less the core of the song when he brought it to JBJ and RS, safe to say it wouldn't have been a hit without (Jon)/Richie's input. The talkbox and bassline add so much to the song, and whilst its still a great tune played stripped back on the piano as Desmond's demo probably was, it's the stadium filling chorus that really kills it!


Andi

Lampinen 07-03-2013 04:40 PM

Every writer involved has claimed Tommy and Gina was someone they knew. Desmond and Maria Vidal, Jon's said they were his high shool mates, a guy who got a scolarship to go play baseball in college 'till his gf got pregnant. And Richie recently said he was thinking of his parents when they were writing the lyrics. Go figure.

LeaJovi 07-03-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Living_on_my_Hair (Post 1144289)
But yeah, even if Desmond had more or less the core of the song when he brought it to JBJ and RS, safe to say it wouldn't have been a hit without (Jon)/Richie's input.

Honestly while I tend to agree I don't see how safe it is to say that regarding Jon's input in that song. I can totally see his input being minimal, hence his "I didn't think it was a hit when we wrote it".

Living_on_my_Hair 07-03-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeaJovi (Post 1144300)
Honestly while I tend to agree I don't see how safe it is to say that regarding Jon's input in that song. I can totally see his input being minimal, hence his "I didn't think it was a hit when we wrote it".

Yeah, that's why I put Jon's name in brackets..but at the end of the day, it IS a fantastic vocal from him which was bound to help it's success in some way.


Andi

bounce442 07-03-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Living_on_my_Hair (Post 1144309)
Yeah, that's why I put Jon's name in brackets..but at the end of the day, it IS a fantastic vocal from him which was bound to help it's success in some way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYA6SwQholI&t=3m0s

Andi

I agree. This interview actually made me believe that jon and Richie had more to do with it than I initially thought... being that when they started it together... I always figured DC brought it in nearly finished.

That all being said, even if they didn't have much to do with writing it, Jon's vocals and tweaks to the melody (and talkbox) have a lot to do with it being as successful as it was.

Alphavictim 07-03-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Living_on_my_Hair (Post 1144289)
The talkbox and bassline add so much to the song

Hugh wrote the bassline.

Bleedingguitar 07-03-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Living_on_my_Hair (Post 1144289)
But yeah, even if Desmond had more or less the core of the song when he brought it to JBJ and RS

Well according to the interview he did not have anything, and all 3 of them were together when they started writing it. He says he "came into the room without any idea".

LOL did the host say "Jon's heavy metal image":cool:

angelsambo 05-06-2020 07:13 PM

Interview: Desmond Child talks working with Bon Jovi, Meat Loaf, Ricky Martin and his upcoming autobiography

https://www.entertainment-focus.com/...autobiography/

''I noticed that you haven’t written with Jon, though, since Richie left the band. He seems to be using Billy Falcon more as a co-writer these days. Is that deliberate on your part or just happenstance?

No, I think that maybe Jon is more comfortable these days where he is. We have written some songs together, just he and I, but people shift and change as they get older. He’s written a lot with his producer (John Shanks) who is also now a semi-permanent member of the band too. There has been a natural evolution for him.''


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