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liljovi93 09-30-2019 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jon-flp (Post 1259165)
Blood on Blood was the best for me in the show.

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Yeah just watched it. He's on fire here!!

Really really on fire.

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Rdkopper 09-30-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1259163)
The whole show is on YouTube in (very) poor quality, I'd suggest waiting for a better quality video.

It this one decent?
https://youtu.be/KYZv07SZpGQ

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BJFan99 09-30-2019 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1259168)
It this one decent?
https://youtu.be/KYZv07SZpGQ

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Not really, especially the sound quality is very bad. I'd recommend waiting for a better quality version for a more authentic impression.

Rdkopper 09-30-2019 05:19 PM

After watching most of it, vocals aside, it really was an amazing energetic show... Jon is still a brilliant front-man in many ways... The crowd was definitely into it from start to finish.

Not all songs are painful vocally and I think too many fans are determining Jon's future based on the most difficult songs in the catalog because those are the only ones they are listening to.

Sure as he turns 60, 65, and 70 things are going to change and he'll continue to make adjustments as he goes but physically he's still on top which is the key to any longevity.


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BJFan99 09-30-2019 05:24 PM

A much better quality broadcast is now being premiered on the YT channel ”Bon Jovi Archives”. Born to Follow just about to end.

BJFan99 09-30-2019 05:25 PM

Blood On Blood now.

BJFan99 09-30-2019 05:34 PM

In These Arms (David)

BJFan99 09-30-2019 05:44 PM

HAND sounded so bad I wanted to cry.

KTF now.

Rdkopper 09-30-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1259172)
A much better quality broadcast is now being premiered on the YT channel ”Bon Jovi Archives”. Born to Follow just about to end.

Can you double check the one I posted before and compare it to the one on Non Jovi Archive?

Both audio and video

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james_d 09-30-2019 06:03 PM

I really enjoyed the show. Jon is still one of the best frontmen in the world, it's just a shame his vocals have gotten even worse since the summer.
I'd certainly say this was more enjoyable than both 2013 and 2017. Look how much happier Jon is now than 6 years ago. That's at least a positive.

BJFan99 09-30-2019 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1259176)
Can you double check the one I posted before and compare it to the one on Non Jovi Archive?

Both audio and video

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The picture quality on the video you posted might be a little better, but the sound is dozens of times worse than on the Bon Jovi Archives vid:

https://youtu.be/WznBpQfyOJQ

IML now.

liljovi93 09-30-2019 06:05 PM

I honestly think this is the best Jon (as a frontman) I've seen in 8/9 years maybe?

He was on fire last night. Watched most of it with my girlfriend before and she said he doesn't keep still. He really was on form last night.

It's just a shame the vocals take centre point.

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james_d 09-30-2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1259179)
I honestly think this is the best Jon (as a frontman) I've seen in 8/9 years maybe?

He was on fire last night. Watched most of it with my girlfriend before and she said he doesn't keep still. He really was on form last night.

It's just a shame the vocals take centre point.

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I agree with pretty much everything you've said. But the vocals take centre point for a reason, his first job is still to sing. He's pretty bad at that now, but is amazing at everything else.

liljovi93 09-30-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by james_d (Post 1259180)
I agree with pretty much everything you've said. But the vocals take centre point for a reason, his first job is still to sing. He's pretty bad at that now, but is amazing at everything else.

That's the point I'm making.

His vocals take centre point because he's a singer. He's not singing well which is why it's a shame that all this energy is put into everything else but everyone still heard how bad he is.

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BJFan99 09-30-2019 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1259181)
That's the point I'm making.

His vocals take centre point because he's a singer. He's not singing well which is why it's a shame that all this energy is put into everything else but everyone still heard how bad he is.

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That's my impression of this show as well.

Encore break now.

Gadden 09-30-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1259178)
The picture quality on the video you posted might be a little better, but the sound is dozens of times worse than on the Bon Jovi Archives vid:

https://youtu.be/WznBpQfyOJQ

IML now.

It is gonna be available in 1080p after the premier:)

Enjoy!

BJFan99 09-30-2019 06:36 PM

Always now - get your earplugs ready...

Gadden 09-30-2019 06:58 PM

Now in 1080p:


Enjoy!

manarosi 09-30-2019 07:11 PM

oh jon poor bastard...that "help me" during always almost made me cry...still one of the best frontman alive to this day

bonjovi90 09-30-2019 07:56 PM

Great energy, horrendous vocals. Haven't listened to current stuff since Munich and, coming back to it from other bands, only makes one realize how bad it is.
South American audiences always are a sure-fire thing to save his ass though.

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Eveline 09-30-2019 08:08 PM

Tried to watch this vid in full but can't. The vocals are horrible. I know from my experience it's different when you're there in person, though.

Some fans feel sorry for Jon but it's him who can't stop and pushes himself to the limits. What's his driving force? Ego? Pride? Money? Bad advisers? Fear?
They're about to release another album. And what's next? Touring again?

And another unpopular opinion: not a fan of Dave's vocals, sorry.

Thierry 09-30-2019 08:46 PM

I’m downloading the full HD version right now and will watch it later tonight. After reading the reviews here I’ll probably be done with the band as a live act. We’ll see.

Gabriel Shoes 09-30-2019 08:50 PM

“Energy”

Is Jon Bon Jovi an entertainer? YES.

Is Jon Bon Jovi a singer? NO.

Honestly, if I’m interested in someone jumping on a stage, with “full energy”, I’d go the circus. The music part is too important for me.

Rdkopper 09-30-2019 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1259188)
Tried to watch this vid in full but can't. The vocals are horrible. I know from my experience it's different when you're there in person, though.



Some fans feel sorry for Jon but it's him who can't stop and pushes himself to the limits. What's his driving force? Ego? Pride? Money? Bad advisers? Fear?

They're about to release another album. And what's next? Touring again?



And another unpopular opinion: not a fan of Dave's vocals, sorry.

Dave's vocals are terrible... I'd take Jon's current voice over Dave's best vocal any day. I still think, however it's a good move to let Dave take a song like In These Arms. Or an old classic like Only Lonely....

The thing that baffles me the most about Jon's voice is why he can't get the words out?

So yes, Jon's best days as a YouTube and Bootleg sensation are done...

His tone is still there so studio albums shouldn't be an issue.

I'd still suggest going to see them live when they come around every couple of years...

The Band is amazing, Jon's still a star and has stage presence as a front-man, and not all songs are terrible when you're there in person... Obviously the more vocal demanding songs will stand out more but the big rock anthems like Its My Life do just fine in a live setting..

Listening to the show is painful but watching it while listening to it definitely eases the pain..

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hackster73 09-30-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadden (Post 1259185)

I just can't enjoy that, he sounds so bad to when I saw them at Wembley...

efpg0708 09-30-2019 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadden (Post 1259185)

Wow. I’m impressed with Jon’s energy. But his vocals are horrendous.

I’m not a fan of David taking lead voice. I’ve never liked his singing. And Shanks should not be there. He’s a creep.

But wow. The energy is insane !

Eveline 09-30-2019 09:18 PM

Well, I was talking to a fellow fan and she noticed the weird thing about Jon's right eye too and how in some songs he sounds like he suddenly aquired a lisp. The way he pronounces words, the effort, the agonising look. It could be related to some health issues, I believe. And if that's even remotely true, I'm even more puzzled why he keeps pushing even more. He'd better do some small acoustic shows or get Richie and go on a farewell tour before all legacy is torn to pieces.

Fans no longer care about Jon's raspy voice, legendary screams or magical harmonies as long as hit songs are played. It's pure entertainment now and bearable only when you're there in person. But I agree with Gabriel a few posts earlier. Although a lot of female fans are perfectly content with Jon jumping around the stage and kissing random women, there are fans who are there for the music. Guess we're in the minority now or just nostalgic saps...

Thierry 09-30-2019 09:25 PM

What annoys me the most that he doesn’t sing in time. He is flat a lot of times but they can cover that up if he sings in time.

And his right eye.. yes.. every “high” note this is visible.

I’m watching the show now. I’m enjoying the energy but the vocals distract too much..

Thierry 09-30-2019 09:41 PM

Not a fan of Dave’s voice either.. but this is awesome. At least he is capable to sing in tune and in time.

efpg0708 09-30-2019 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1259196)
Not a fan of Dave’s voice either.. but this is awesome. At least he is capable to sing in tune and in time.

Thought the same here. Jon’s out of time and nowhere-near-the-right-key vocals are unbearable when you don’t have thousands of voices draining him out. I think enjoy watching this show on mute more than having to listen to Jon sounding like that.

Thierry 09-30-2019 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1259197)
Thought the same here. Jon’s out of time and nowhere-near-the-right-key vocals are unbearable when you don’t have thousands of voices draining him out. I think enjoy watching this show on mute more than having to listen to Jon sounding like that.

Turned it off.. watched Always it was horrible. What a shitfest.

BJFan99 09-30-2019 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1259198)
What a shitfest.

Worse than Rio 2013 with 1) shitty vocals (although much better than now), 2) awful drumming by Rich Scannella and 3) an indifferent Jon with no motivation to put on a show at all?

I don't think so. Obviously Jon's voice is absolutely horrific, but the energy and atmosphere is way better. Quite to my surprise, I honestly enjoyed most of the show (bar the vocals)! :D

Eveline 09-30-2019 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1259199)
Worse than Rio 2013 with 1) shitty vocals (although much better than now), 2) awful drumming by Rich Scannella and 3) an indifferent Jon with no motivation to put on a show at all?

I don't think so. Obviously Jon's voice is absolutely horrific, but the energy and atmosphere is way better. Quite to my surprise, I honestly enjoyed most of the show (bar the vocals)! :D

Can we say it's a fact now? It's only bearable when you're there in person. Forget about enjoying the bootlegs.

steel_horse75 09-30-2019 11:38 PM

Rock in Rio 2019
 
You can't fault the effort but he was ****ed on the Na Na Nas on BTBMB

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bonjovi90 09-30-2019 11:54 PM

I tried to watch it, but had to turn it off after three songs. Yeah, he's energetic and looks happy (who wouldn't if you earn this amount of money for the shows), but with clean SBD audio, it's unbearable.
I love this band to death, pretty much everything from their first 30 years and I'll always cherish that and hope for one or two gems on future albums, but I'm not gonna spend my time listening to a singer who can do everything but sing anymore.
In some sad way, Jon reminds me of a comedian who does everything in his power to entertain the audience, uses every trick there is, but fails to deliver every time he reaches the punch line.

Tictoc 10-01-2019 01:40 AM

"Wow! Jon is on fire!!"

No...

Jon should be set on fire and thrown onto the top of the rock and roll dumpster fire of hell.

He's finished. The only reason he dances around and flashes his fake smile so much is because he's trying to cover up for the fact that 50% of his weaponry is destroyed. So he falls back on the showmanship which comes across as desperate now. He was creeping around the stage making wild hand gestures and it didn't look like he knew what he would do next and not in a good spontaneous way but a "oh no that man needs his meds" way.

The second dance with the girl during BOR was the first time I've properly cringed while watching a Bon Jovi show. Jon tried to make it romantic but it just looked like a young girl dancing sympathetically with her deranged grandfather.

The only saving grace was another powerful performance by Tico but then even his drums were lower in the mix than bongo mans and for some reason his face wasn't broadcast once.

So all in all a great show.

Javier 10-01-2019 02:11 AM

Watching it now. Jon's more energetic than usual and the band sounds tight as hell. All those rehearsals paid off, his voice is shot. But that's something that's been discussed to hell here, everyone know it, he knows it, the crowd knows it, the band knows it. It is what it is, I understand if some can't accept it, but there's still plenty who can. Other than that major flub on Always Phil was awesome! Tico is always the man! Looking forward to watching it the whole way through in order....


Edit: that right eye is really bothering me!! Wth is wrong??!!

YOVANAfromPeru 10-01-2019 02:56 AM

I would rate this concert like regular. Good energy and again there are so much good songs in the catalog that Always wasn’t a really surprise, but I like it! and had so much fun! On the other hand, Phil X can’t fill Sambora’s place; even that Always wasn’t sounding good, it’s like just a wall of noise, no pretty solos, Shanks guitar is too soft, blablabla a mess.
I appreciate that the setlists are better in some way... but still I’m not satisfied!
Hmmmm... I agree about the money, let’s don’t forget a good show is their job.
In the meantime, I’m really surprised I’m still alive after all... hihihih Ha!

Johny 10-01-2019 09:48 AM

My standards must have lowered significantly but I'm enjoying watching the show. Maybe it's because I have no expectations and I had none in Munich earlier this year and I had a great time. Maybe I accept this is the best we can get.
Maybe it's because they seem to be enjoying themselves. I can even stand Shanks, he plays the best solo in ITA.
Jon can't sing properly and I wonder why he let's the whole world know it. One thing is to play your own show and the other is Rio which broadcasted.

It's very refreshing to hear David sing ITA - some of you don't like his voice but I have nothing against it plus it's amazing not to hear the singer strugling. I think he nails it with ease. Definitely highlight of the show for me.

bonjovi90 10-01-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1259208)
My standards must have lowered significantly but I'm enjoying watching the show. Maybe it's because I have no expectations and I had none in Munich earlier this year and I had a great time. Maybe I accept this is the best we can get.

Maybe it's because they seem to be enjoying themselves. I can even stand Shanks, he plays the best solo in ITA.

Jon can't sing properly and I wonder why he let's the whole world know it. One thing is to play your own show and the other is Rio which broadcasted.



It's very refreshing to hear David sing ITA - some of you don't like his voice but I have nothing against it plus it's amazing not to hear the singer strugling. I think he nails it with ease. Definitely highlight of the show for me.

I guess you did lower them. I remember very vividly when, during the Circle promo era, I said that I enjoyed the performance of Superman Tonight and you replied: "How could you like something that is sung that bad?" [emoji23]

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