I'm not advocating for piracy or posting any links here BUT the album leaked and its....wild. Skipping around it's very much a mix of genres. Country ballads, LOTS of string arrangements. Closest album I'd compare it to is X in that they're not trying to damn hard to sound like themselves. There are quite a few tracks that do but it's bringing out the songwriter element of the band on some of these tracks.
I think at 15 tracks I'll eventually realize there's a lot of fat that should have been cut but I'm really digging it, it's taking some ballsy changes. |
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Joe’s vocals are very on point here (he’s 62) and there are times where he really soars that it just hits me! They’re quite weak on the high notes for “Take What You Want” however. The trademark backing vocals are still as great as they ever were as well. The guitar solos, whilst very good, I don’t think are particularly stand-out and comparable to what we’ve heard on the previous 2 albums. The whole album just sounds really “alive” and even though it’s very early at this stage, I’d say it’s a better effort than Def Leppard (2015 self-titled) and probably their best effort of all the albums they’ve put out within the last 20 years. In case people weren’t aware, the band wrote and recorded the album remotely during the pandemic and enjoyed it so much that they probably won’t make an album “the usual way” ever again. If future albums are anything like this I’m happy with that. |
Since it's been on TV I'll post it:
Couldn't help, but think if Jon could still sound this good. |
I gave it a few listens and it's a grower, However it needs to grow a lot, I still don't recognize many songs.
My instant favourite is Kick - it's fcukin' damn catchy! It has a Leppard sound but not a copycat of any of the previous songs plus it shows their love of the 1970s. Take What You Want is one I'll end up liking but I don't like how it's trying hard to have the same elements as Rock Rock Til You Drop. I love that Viv and Phil both play the solo. And kudos to Joe for providing such live vocals. Those that stuck and I remember their titles are SOS Emergency a U Rok Mi and then I love the last one or the one before that :) On the other hand, the duet is terrible :( |
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It's a strong record, but it's too long. Cut 3 of the weaker tracks and you have 12 tracks that makes their strongest record in a long time |
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My biggest gripe is Phil's guitar playing. Predictable is the right word for his solo style. Stylistically he brought some songs to this one I never thought I'd hear from the band. What would everyone's ideal 12 track version be? |
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Viv has no songwriting credits on this record in the other hand, Phil dominates. I'd love to hear more of Viv's solos and guitar work.
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On repeated listens I feel the album is very patchy and could do with more rockers on there, more in keeping with "Take What You Want". All that being said, I applaud them for being more adventurous with this album and that we are still getting new music from them. I hope it's not another 7 years before the next one. |
I'd appreciate more new songs, miss Let's Get Rocked and I'mbit tired of Foolin' and not a fan of Excitable. BUT, this rocks!!! Joe's vocals are great and as a Viv's fan I really enjoyed him there. |
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Here's an interesting quote about that.
"The last two tracks on the album, Wings Of An Angel and Blind Faith, were written by the whole band - all five of us together in one room. But mostly we write on our own. Without wanting to sound poncey, we are all songwriters in our own right. We write differently when we write individually, and we write a certain way when we contribute to each other's songs. We're like Queen in that respect. I'm not saying I think we're as good as Queen - we're totally different. But what we do have in common with them is we all write individually. What that gives us is a massive amount of variety in our songs. And that really matters to us." |
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2015 was made in the midst of Viv getting cancer so I kind of understand why he wasn't as present. This one, I'm not sure.
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Apparently Rick Allen didn’t play drums on this album.
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Yeah, I saw some vlogs going nuts about it but anyone with any basic knowledge of how he's done albums post and PRE arm loss..
Like I know there was a guest drummer on some of the YEAH! extra tracks but I don't think that was ever the norm. I really liked the drum sound of this album. A lot of the previous albums just didn't do it for me drum wise. |
Good to see some DL love up in here. I've been reading the last 3 pages or so and now that the new record has sunk in for the early buyers such as yourselves, would you recommend this as a purchase? My last DL album was 'Hysteria' and apart from a double disc greatest hits package which included the later singles I'm not up to speed with their post eighties work. Is the new album a good place to start for me? From what I gather here, there's some fat to be trimmed but ...
I don't check out albums online, I prefer buying on recommendation from fans and having the cd booklet in my hands on the first listen. thanks |
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RetroActive is an odds'n'sods album of b-sides and then-newly finished tracks from previous album sessions but works rather well as an album in it's own right. If it WERE an actual studio album, it would have been a more worthy successor to Hysteria. Slang is where the band started going in a rather different direction musically. It's more experimental and dabbles in different genres but at it's core is a more organic, stripped-down version of the band and it's also where their songwriting ability really started to shine. Lyrically it is much darker and more introspective. It is not album to jump into if you're in a "Pour Some Sugar on Me"/"Animal"/"Rock of Ages" mood. If I were to make an analogy, it's Def Leppards "These Days". You'll either really dig this album or just not care for it. If your greatest hits album is a 2CD set from 2004 onward, you'd have heard the title track (ironically the more Leppard-like track on the album) and "Work It Out". Euphoria is were the band returned to their more familiar sound and borrowing ideas from previous works (including Slang to a degree) whilst having the songs stand up on their own and sounding slightly more modern. This is the album with the song "Promises" which is included on any double-disc greatest hits album and still gets played live now and again. It's probably the most immediate-sounding post-Hysteria but I think it's important to hear RetroActive and Slang first so you can appreciate the "journey" to Euphoria. As for anything after that it's hard to truly recommend anything. X (2002) much like Slang started to mix things up again, genre-wise, but this time going for a more pop direction. Has it's moments and Joe Elliotts vocals are awesome here, but the songs are mostly lacking flavour and musically felt rather dumbed down. Songs from the Sparkle Lounge (2008 ) and Def Leppard (2015) are both more familiar-sounding affairs and have some good songs between them, but I feel most of it is forgettable. Diamond Star Halos (2022), as some of us have said already, is not as experimental per-se but does take some liberties with some of the compositions and what the average person would normally expect from a Def Leppard album. In all honesty, the best person to ask here is Bleeding Purist as he "lived" through their entire career and is much more articulate than I am in terms of describing each album. He's posted loads of great stuff here over the years so worth searching through them. |
thanks so much, your post has been a great help. I know what albums to buy next now and I won't be starting with the new one. First purchase : 'RetroActive'.
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Drastic Symphonies
New album “Drastic Symphonies” released May 19th
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...webp_QL85_.jpg https://ultimateclassicrock.com/def-...phonies-album/ It included several tracks combined with classic pieces by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. Track Listing 1. “Turn To Dust” 2. “Paper Sun” 3. “Animal” 4. “Pour Some Sugar on Me” (Stripped Version) 5. “Hysteria” 6. “Love Bites” 7. “Goodbye For Good This Time” 8. “Love” 9. “Gods Of War” 10. “Angels (Can’t Help You Now)” 11. “Bringin’ On the Heartbreak” 12. “Switch 625” 13. “Too Late for Love” 14. “When Love & Hate Collide” 15. “Kings Of the World” 16. “Have You Ever Needed Someone So Bad” (Not on all versions) Interesting track list with “Turn to Dust” from Slang as the opening track. Totally out of the blue much like Diamond Star Halos was last year. Not sure this will be my cup of tea but an interesting move nonetheless. In more saddening news, Rick Allen was attacked outside of a hotel in Florida recently. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...er/ar-AA18IfUg |
This tracklist excites the hell out of me. Turn to Dust and Paper Sun, holy hell.
A couple of random choices but I really want to hear this. |
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Amazon have a 2 disc set listed with the 2nd disc being a Blu Ray containing the entire album in Dolby Atmos.
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