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Adrian 09-09-2003 11:32 PM

Ok, now to explain my brainstorm...My idea is to call the song "Back". About a guy who left behind a girl he cared about, when he got back, the girl said basically "I knew you cared about me, you came back for me". The guy denies it, and later (the second half of the song) they're broken apart for a long time, and he's saying "I'm going to come back for/to you". What do you guys think? Like the idea?
Prototype chorus for the first half:

Last time you said it I denied
Now I wish I hadn't lied
I came back for you

Changed for the second half:

Last time you said it I denied
Now its truth and not a lie
I'm coming back for you

Like it?

Adrian

Captain Walrus 09-13-2003 12:57 AM

I like the idea, bloody brilliant..... I think the actual lyrics need a little work, but it'll come in time

Keep On Rockin'

tawtami 09-13-2003 02:37 AM

yeah i agreed and posted that.. but i dont think it sent!!!

lol...

on the recording front- once i gvet all my stuff here to do it, i have webspace to put it and stuff so just need to do it then.... so hopefully soon we'll have some music... can someone do me a huge favour and put all the lyrics together and either email them or pm them or put them here so i can copy them and have a look at whats happening with what

thank you.
sara

Adrian 09-14-2003 03:18 AM

I'll have some new lyrics for Back on Monday or Tuesday.
Walrus:What do you think needs changing in that song?
Tawtami:On Monday I'll repost all our songs at this time. Having this stuff recorded would be so cool! You're gonna be a star here!

Adrian

allmike 09-15-2003 01:09 PM

Good guys, carry on. :P

Adrian 09-15-2003 04:09 PM

Hi:
Well, I've got some new verses, as usual, feel free to offer commentary, critisism, etc.

I remember that night
You told me how much I wanted you
I laughed and said no
How could you see the truth

Then I left
But I came back again
You said I came back for you
I said you were just a friend

It still needs a few verses before the first half is done, but what do you guys think?
Tawtami:I'll post our other songs later today.

Adrian

Adrian 09-15-2003 11:18 PM

The sand still haunts me
In every one of my nightmares
Breathing deep I still can taste
That dusty desert air
Would you ever go back into Hell
If you got the chance to leave?
Would you miss the pain
Miss the burnin' heat
Miss the people who can't breathe?
Walking out
It felt so clean
Like coming home
Just like a dream
But I couldn't stay away
I just couldn't stay gone
I left my soul in the fields
Its the place I belong
I'm riding day and night
On these wings of steel
Heading back for my destiny
All I've got are these two wheels
Riding day and night
On wings of steel

(Prechorus)

They wanted our blood for oil
But all that's in the past
I'm stronger now
Now I'm going back

(Chorus)

I'm going
Back Into Dry County
Heading back to the sands
Back Into Dry County
Back to where it all began
(Down in Dry County)
So many looking for a reason to live
Too many finding a reason to die
We gotta hang on
We gotta stay alive
(Down in Dry County)
No use tryin' to pretend
This is where it began
And this is where its gonna end

Countin' every second
Until I reack those fiery gates
Just tryin' to numb myself off so
The pain don't get too great
I know I can't escape it
Gotta burn down there again
Goin' back once more
Burning down the door
Gonna live inside my pain
Missing out
On all my dreams
Because they came up
With this scheme
But now I'm on that road again
I thought I could be strong
But I left my soul in the fields
In the place I belong
I'm paying back my sins
Just to stay alive
Heading back to face my demons
Hoping they'll let me survive
Paying back my sins
To stay alive

(Prechorus)

They wanted our blood for oil
But all that's in the past
I'm stronger now
Now I'm going back

(Chorus)

I'm going
Back Into Dry County
Heading back to the sands
Back Into Dry County
Back to where it all began
(Down in Dry County)
So many looking for a reason to live
Too many finding a reason to die
We gotta hang on
We gotta stay alive
(Down in Dry County)
No use tryin' to pretend
This is where it began
And this is where its gonna end

The howling wind of the desert
Can't match the howling in my mind
I can see the faces, the flames
Sometimes I wish it was me that died
My memories burn me
Every night I lay down to sleep
on the cold, hard ground
You ask why my bed is burning
It was on fire when I layed down

(Prechorus)

They wanted our blood for oil
But all that's in the past
I'm stronger now
Now I'm going back

(Chorus)

I'm going
Back Into Dry County
Heading back to the sands
Back Into Dry County
Back to where it all began
(Down in Dry County)
So many looking for a reason to live
Too many finding a reason to die
We gotta hang on
We gotta stay alive
(Down in Dry County)
No use tryin' to pretend
This is where it began
And this is where its gonna end

(Guitar Solo)

I saw the sign
Dry County limit
Never saw the car
But I felt the hit
Looking up into the sky
Now I know
This is it
And now it makes more sense to me
Finally it all fits
This is it
I'm Back In Dry County

Our first song! I still think its great. What do you think, Tawtami? You eventually want to do this one too? Also, I'll post our last song (I'd Do Anything For You) in a few minutes.

Adrian

Adrian 09-15-2003 11:29 PM

Standin' here
Side by side
No one said it's an easy ride
Don't worry, cos I've got your back
Standin' tall
We're still free
Together we'll fight for the dream
One for all
and All for one
And all thats in between
Remember the old days
Shootin the breeze
Not carin' bout right or wrong
Seemed like everything
Was ours for the taking
Guess I should have known all along
This couldn't last forever

Prechorus:

Back then it seemed we were always winning
But now our teams been torn apart
I wish we could go back to the beginning
Can't you take us back to the start?

Chorus:
I swear, as I stand here
I'd Do Anything For You
Cos I know that you'd do the same for me
We can live and die together
But our fight will last forever
If you'll let me
I'll stand with you till the end
Because I call you friend

They say they honor loyalty
It don't look that way to me
But I'm not giving in
I won't let go of what I believe
For all the **** that we been through
I never let 'em change my mind
I'll always be here for you
We'll come through this side by side
I'll Do Anything For You
I remember when you said that to me
The worst day of my life
The day we parted, I lost a part of me

Prechorus:

Back then it seemed we were always winning
But now our teams been torn apart
I wish we could go back to the beginning
Can't you take us back to the start?

Chorus:
I swear, as I stand here
I'd Do Anything For You
Cos I know that you'd do the same for me
We can live and die together
But our fight will last forever
If you'll let me
I'll stand with you till the end
Because I call you friend

I know we're seperated
By time and space, laws and rules
But I swear I'll fight
I'll stand by you
I'd do anything for you
Anything at all
And that's the truth

(Guitar solo)

Its all I can do
I gotta stand by you

Cause when you're loyal to someone...

You can't help it

Prechorus:

Back then it seemed we were always winning
But now our teams been torn apart
I wish we could go back to the beginning
Can't you take us back to the start?

Chorus:
I swear, as I stand here
I'd Do Anything For You
Cos I know that you'd do the same for me
We can live and die together
But our fight will last forever
If you'll let me
I'll stand with you till the end
Because I call you friend

This is I'd Do Anything For You. And in case anyone thinks I'm getting egotistical and posting these as my songs, they wouldn't have been possible without The Walrus. And Tawtami was invaluable in helping with Win Or Lose. Oh, by the way, please feel free to rewrite the two finished songs so they scan. Just notify us if you change anything.

Adrian

tawtami 09-15-2003 11:43 PM

eventually id like to have a go at all of them,.. its just having time and finding insopiration

Adrian 09-17-2003 09:37 PM

Ishoulda seen it coming
Shoulda seen the end that was near
Now it seems like we haven't talked
For what feels like a year

They tell us we should give this up
Let all we've fought for fall to the floor
God knows we should be over
But I can't walk through your door

I can't bring myself to let go
And I hope you can't too
This is only gonna get harder for a while
Then it'll all be through

I remember that night
You told me how much I wanted you
I laughed and said no
How could you see the truth

Then I left
But I came back again
You said I came back for you
I said you were just a friend

First half chorus:

Last time you said it I denied
Now I wish I hadn't lied
I came back for you

Second half chorus, reworked:

Last time you said it I denied
Now its truth and not a lie
I'm coming back for you
For all the people I've left behind
I won't let go this time
I'm coming back for you

Well, that's what we've got on the ballad "Back". Anyone want to add anyting to it? Walrus? What does everyone think?

I've also starting my solo writing, and its coming along great! I've got 2 songs almost finished that I'll post sometime in the near future. One of them I think could be one of my best songs ever, its a rock ballad called "I'm Not There For You". I've also got a rather vengeful, political song in the works called "Someone's Son".

Walrus:You read my last PM yet? If so, what do you think?

Well, lets get back to work on "Back"....

Adrian

allmike 09-21-2003 06:21 PM

I like that. Is it full song or some thing else have to put in there?.

Adrian 09-22-2003 11:08 PM

That's not all. I was kinda hoping The Walrus would help with this one. He hasn't been active with the band for a while (WHERE ARE YOU???). He was gonna clear up some problems with his internet provider and then come back and help. Haven't heard much from him (in this topic) since. I kinda don't want to be writing this alone. But I will, if he doesn't want to.
Tawtami:How are you doing on that recording? What do you think of the song so far?

Adrian

Captain Walrus 09-23-2003 01:16 AM

I'm sorry, I'm sorry dude! Just started college and having a little bit of a problem adjusting to the workload. Taking a quick look at Back, I'd say that the verses seem to be not very detailed, thats really a feature of ballads, they're kinda long and flowing, even rock ballads. I'll have another look in more detail ASAP. I read the PM as well, and I like it a lot, although I don't think I can offer any input on that one cos I can't really write rap rock, although I spose I might as well start somewhere :)

Keep On Rockin'

tawtami 09-23-2003 07:09 PM

i havent forgotten about it i promise...
its just hard to make music when you feel like your soul has been ripped out and crushed.

as soon as i can i will.

in terms of the latest.... ill take a look if you want.... i can still analyse- thats an academical skill for me rather that requiring subjectivity

sara

Captain Walrus 09-23-2003 09:05 PM

Don't push it Sara. Do whatever you feel like doing you know. We can handle this if you want. Alternatively, a creative outlet can be a good thing. So says Dr. Walrus :D

Keep On Rockin'

tawtami 09-23-2003 10:46 PM

it can.. you're perfectly right.. its just that at the moment i have all the creativity of a dry sponge... :S

ill have somethingdown by sunday i think
(i hope)

sara

Adrian 09-23-2003 11:21 PM

Walrus:Take your time if school is hard. I'll always be hanging around DC. :D The Project can easily be changed to rock, I just hear it as Linkin Park-ish. Also, what about Back should be changed? Should I go for more detail? You know pretty much the whole story of the song from the collected posts, what should I rewrite/change/etc?

Tawtami:While it'd be great if you had something by Sunday, but if you're having a hard time, don't feel rushed. Take whatever time you need to straighten things out, both in life and music. Hope things go well for you.

Adrian

allmike 09-26-2003 12:02 PM

TAke ur time guys, let always put ur education first, music can wait but not education. I know still u guys can get plenty of time from ur education to gett in to music. :)

Captain Walrus 09-27-2003 01:31 AM

Quote:

Ishoulda seen it coming
Shoulda seen the end that was near
Now it seems like we haven't talked
For what feels like a year
Sorry man, don't like this verse

Quote:

They tell us we should give this up
Let all we've fought for fall to the floor
God knows we should be over
But I can't walk through your door
This ones better... the last 2 lines are a bit short though I think

Quote:

I remember that night
You told me how much I wanted you
I laughed and said no
How could you see the truth

Then I left
But I came back again
You said I came back for you
I said you were just a friend
These two are good

I'm trying to think of a way to tie it together, but I'm having a little trouble... mainly, my notes are:

1) I hate the first verse
2)Needs a stronger start IMO
3)This is a long first verse... I have no complaints with that in itself, in fact I quite like that its not a formulaic rock ballad, but I think the structure wants to be a bit more varied, rather than the same "4 lines, 2nd and 4th rhyme" structure on every part

Ooooh yeah, I like the chorus :D

Keep On Rockin'

Adrian 09-29-2003 04:17 PM

Quote:

I shoulda seen it coming
Shoulda seen the end that was near
Now it seems like we haven't talked
For what feels like a year

Sorry man, don't like this verse
Ok, we'll drop this one. Or I'll find some way to recycle it... 8) By the way, what didn't you like about it?

Quote:

They tell us we should give this up
Let all we've fought for fall to the floor
God knows we should be over
But I can't walk through your door

This ones better... the last 2 lines are a bit short though I think
One of my favorite verses. How could I lengthen the last 2 lines?
I'll get to work on some new verse-parts. That just sounds funny... Can you come up with anything?

Thanks,

Adrian

tawtami 09-30-2003 07:13 PM

hmm. tisnt telling me that there are posts appearing here :S
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Adrian 10-05-2003 03:13 AM

Just bringing this to the front again. Tawtami:Do you have something you can post? If so, send it to my via PM and I'll post it for you. Still working on "Back"...

Adrian

jade4jovi 10-06-2003 12:05 PM

Ill be the main female vocalist ;) and dancer :)

Adrian 10-06-2003 04:03 PM

Jade4Jovi:We've got a lead female vocalist, but we'll keep you in mind. By the way, do you have anyway of recording what you sing, in case you become one of the vocalists?

Got a new verse for Back, I think this will fit into the second half.

We're both looking forward
To the day when we can be together
Its coming, [but] not real soon
It'll take some time
But they can't hold me back forever
Someday this will all be through

Walrus:What do you think of the structure now? 6 lines not 4!!! :lol:

So what do you guys think? I think it could make either a good verse or an awesome prechorus.

Adrian

tawtami 10-07-2003 04:10 PM

ive got a couple of things on the way... hopefully a successful method of recording soon... tho might end up having to borrow someone elses pc to transfer the masters.... /me smiles at goose..... cause mines not working v well (am at uni atm...)
will keep you posted.
sara

Adrian 10-11-2003 07:07 PM

Tawtami:That's great news!
Anyone else interested in working on this song, or am I carrying the flag on this one (so to speak)?
Request to moderator:Please make this topic sticky. Thank you.

Adrian

Adrian 10-14-2003 03:15 AM

Got a new verse for part one:

I think I'm makin' myself sick
Trying to think of ways to say I lied
But I stumble on my words
They just won't come out
So I just go on the way I am
Can't even say I tried
This is kinda starting to hurt
I'm starting to doubt
How I ever could've thought of you

What do you guys think about this? Not my usual structure. Walrus, you still there? Busy? If you're still interested in this, just stop in and say you're still here.
Tawtami:How're things on the recording end?

Adrian

Captain Walrus 10-14-2003 07:50 PM

Yup, i'm still on board

Keep On Rockin'

allmike 10-15-2003 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian
Got a new verse for part one:

I think I'm makin' myself sick
Trying to think of ways to say I lied
But I stumble on my words
They just won't come out
So I just go on the way I am
Can't even say I tried
This is kinda starting to hurt
I'm starting to doubt
How I ever could've thought of you

What do you guys think about this? Not my usual structure. Walrus, you still there? Busy? If you're still interested in this, just stop in and say you're still here.
Tawtami:How're things on the recording end?

Adrian

Great work guys, I have one song in my mind. I don't know whether it is good or bad, i'll post it in couple of days. Yous let me know.

allmike 10-16-2003 11:20 AM

Here it is , i don't it is good or bad. I just post it, u guys give me ur opnion or u can take something from it, u can do it.

HEARTBREAK TOWN

This town where i learn to fly higher
This town where i build dreams to be colour
All these time, friends were friends
Love was real and life was full....everyday

Why everything started so good turn so bad?
Why all these dreams come crashing down to hunt?
Too many questions, too little answer
Too much pain, too little comfort......nightmare.



Blame it to lick, blame it to life
All i blame is this town,.........Heartbreak town.



Its a Heartbreak town
I'm still feeling the hard pain
Its a heartbreak town
I'm still seeing the blood stain.
Its no love town
Hate is running in all its vain
Every smiles burried in its soil
Only broken boy left to weep at the distance.

Adrian 10-16-2003 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmike
Here it is , i don't it is good or bad. I just post it, u guys give me ur opnion or u can take something from it, u can do it.

HEARTBREAK TOWN

This town where i learn to fly higher
This town where i build dreams to be colour
All these time, friends were friends
Love was real and life was full....everyday

Why everything started so good turn so bad?
Why all these dreams come crashing down to hunt?
Too many questions, too little answer
Too much pain, too little comfort......nightmare.



Blame it to lick, blame it to life
All i blame is this town,.........Heartbreak town.



Its a Heartbreak town
I'm still feeling the hard pain
Its a heartbreak town
I'm still seeing the blood stain.
Its no love town
Hate is running in all its vain
Every smiles burried in its soil
Only broken boy left to weep at the distance.

This is good! Do you have a tune for it? Even in your head? Unfortunately, parts of it doesn't rhyme. Do you mind if I play with those parts, rewrite them a little so they do rhyme? Do you mind if I add anything to it? Also, do you really mean Blame it to lick? That doesn't make much sense to me. Do you mean "blame it on love" by any chance?

This is really good work!

Adrian

Captain Walrus 10-17-2003 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmike
Here it is , i don't it is good or bad. I just post it, u guys give me ur opnion or u can take something from it, u can do it.

HEARTBREAK TOWN

This town where i learn to fly higher
This town where i build dreams to be colour
All these time, friends were friends
Love was real and life was full....everyday

Why everything started so good turn so bad?
Why all these dreams come crashing down to hunt?
Too many questions, too little answer
Too much pain, too little comfort......nightmare.



Blame it to lick, blame it to life
All i blame is this town,.........Heartbreak town.



Its a Heartbreak town
I'm still feeling the hard pain
Its a heartbreak town
I'm still seeing the blood stain.
Its no love town
Hate is running in all its vain
Every smiles burried in its soil
Only broken boy left to weep at the distance.

Hey, I like that :D Nice job Mr. Manager :wink:

Keep On Rockin'

allmike 10-17-2003 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian
Quote:

Originally Posted by allmike
Here it is , i don't it is good or bad. I just post it, u guys give me ur opnion or u can take something from it, u can do it.

HEARTBREAK TOWN

This town where i learn to fly higher
This town where i build dreams to be colour
All these time, friends were friends
Love was real and life was full....everyday

Why everything started so good turn so bad?
Why all these dreams come crashing down to hunt?
Too many questions, too little answer
Too much pain, too little comfort......nightmare.



Blame it to lick, blame it to life
All i blame is this town,.........Heartbreak town.



Its a Heartbreak town
I'm still feeling the hard pain
Its a heartbreak town
I'm still seeing the blood stain.
Its no love town
Hate is running in all its vain
Every smiles burried in its soil
Only broken boy left to weep at the distance.

This is good! Do you have a tune for it? Even in your head? Unfortunately, parts of it doesn't rhyme. Do you mind if I play with those parts, rewrite them a little so they do rhyme? Do you mind if I add anything to it? Also, do you really mean Blame it to lick? That doesn't make much sense to me. Do you mean "blame it on love" by any chance?

This is really good work!

Adrian

You can play as u want, I know it need something more to complete. So guys put ur work to it. :P :P

allmike 10-17-2003 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus
Quote:

Originally Posted by allmike
Here it is , i don't it is good or bad. I just post it, u guys give me ur opnion or u can take something from it, u can do it.

HEARTBREAK TOWN

This town where i learn to fly higher
This town where i build dreams to be colour
All these time, friends were friends
Love was real and life was full....everyday

Why everything started so good turn so bad?
Why all these dreams come crashing down to hunt?
Too many questions, too little answer
Too much pain, too little comfort......nightmare.



Blame it to lick, blame it to life
All i blame is this town,.........Heartbreak town.



Its a Heartbreak town
I'm still feeling the hard pain
Its a heartbreak town
I'm still seeing the blood stain.
Its no love town
Hate is running in all its vain
Every smiles burried in its soil
Only broken boy left to weep at the distance.

Hey, I like that :D Nice job Mr. Manager :wink:

Keep On Rockin'

Thanks Walrus. I know u can add more to it.:D

When Walrus say he like it, it means big complement coz he is straight forward guy. :P

Adrian 10-20-2003 07:15 PM

I'm still here. I'd like to finish Back before working on Heartbreak Town though. Walrus, I'm gonna need your help finishing Back. We're so close to ending this one, but I just can't seem to write it. Please help! Thanks,

Adrian

Captain Walrus 10-20-2003 11:38 PM

I think I'm makin' myself sick
Trying to think of ways to say I lied
But I stumble on my words
They just won't come out
So I just go on the way I am
Can't even say I tried
This is kinda starting to hurt
I'm starting to doubt
How I ever could've thought of you

We're both looking forward
To the day when we can be together
Its coming, [but] not real soon
It'll take some time
But they can't hold me back forever
Someday this will all be through

They tell us we should give this up
Let all we've fought for fall to the floor
God knows we should be over
But I can't walk through your door

I remember that night
You told me how much I wanted you
I laughed and said no
How could you see the truth

Then I left
But I came back again
You said I came back for you
I said you were just a friend



Right, thats all the stuff we've got so far. I'm gonna have a little play around and see what I can come up with

Keep On Rockin'

Captain Walrus 10-20-2003 11:55 PM

Back
One word
A million emotions
I can still remember the first time

That night
You thought you could speak for me
You told me I loved you
I laughed and said no
How could I see the truth



OK, thats my idea for the opening, what do you think?

Keep On Rockin'

allmike 10-21-2003 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus
I think I'm makin' myself sick
Trying to think of ways to say I lied
But I stumble on my words
They just won't come out
So I just go on the way I am
Can't even say I tried
This is kinda starting to hurt
I'm starting to doubt
How I ever could've thought of you

We're both looking forward
To the day when we can be together
Its coming, [but] not real soon
It'll take some time
But they can't hold me back forever
Someday this will all be through

They tell us we should give this up
Let all we've fought for fall to the floor
God knows we should be over
But I can't walk through your door

I remember that night
You told me how much I wanted you
I laughed and said no
How could you see the truth

Then I left
But I came back again
You said I came back for you
I said you were just a friend



Right, thats all the stuff we've got so far. I'm gonna have a little play around and see what I can come up with

Keep On Rockin'

This is good i love it. :P
So guys u came up any tunes for any of the songs??.

Adrian 10-22-2003 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus
Back
One word
A million emotions
I can still remember the first time

That night
You thought you could speak for me
You told me I loved you
I laughed and said no
How could I see the truth



OK, thats my idea for the opening, what do you think?

Keep On Rockin'

The Walrus:This is great! The intro is really descriptive. I'm really impressed. I'll get to work on some more verses. Oh, just an afterthought, when you posted all the stuff we had, you forgot the choruses. I'll post those later.

Adrian

allmike 10-22-2003 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus
Back
One word
A million emotions
I can still remember the first time

That night
You thought you could speak for me
You told me I loved you
I laughed and said no
How could I see the truth



OK, thats my idea for the opening, what do you think?

Keep On Rockin'

The Walrus:This is great! The intro is really descriptive. I'm really impressed. I'll get to work on some more verses. Oh, just an afterthought, when you posted all the stuff we had, you forgot the choruses. I'll post those later.

Adrian

I also really love it, when we going to compose all these song, that would be really good. :)


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