Fan Club dillema
 

Hi i have a dilemma. I am a memeber of the fan club and i am going to thre concert with my sister and freind who are not members. I have bought standinjg gold tickets for all of us. I suppose this means that i can get early entry. but this would mean that i wont get to stand with my sister and friend. What should i do?

Also is it guaranteed that all the people who have bought gold stand tickets will also get to be in the pit with the fan club members?
Thanks

Only you know what to do. If you go in early with the fan club you won't see your sister and friend - assuming you rush to the front. You'll still be close if you wait and go in with them - that's what I'd do. Depends whether being a few yards closer is more important than being with friends.

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Just feel like you've been ****ed over by the fan club, by ticket master, by the band, by the promoters... And get used to it, Bon Jovi have become one of those bands who completely **** their fans over and over again :mad: :mad:

It won't be that simple in any case. The fan club will be queueing up at a different spot won't they? So if you go down early you'll be stuck on you're own, again, great work bwjbj!

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I don't agree... I understand that these kind of situations suck big time, but I don't think BSWJBJ had any choice; if they'd still be handing out more then one wristband per fanclubmember, the pits in most shows would be too small to even fit all the members right?

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They always used to have enough space to have fan clubs taking in one extra, and letting in lots and lots of non fan club members to fill it up, you're agument falls to shreds here....

BSWJBJ should have done nothing for these shows. The fan club should get people into the pit, that's why most fans join, that's the ONLY reason I would have joined. `The gold standing get's you into the pit, and you pay more for it. It's got to be one or the other, the fan club should have advised UK fans not to join if they felt they'd get any advantages, and should just not have had any benefits from the fan clubs...

I'm sorry, but expecting people to pay so much ****ing money to be part of a fan club which the only benefit is that you get into the venue 15mins early is a joke!

I see the fan club as = wrist band. That's all it is, that's all it's good for. BS should have achnowledged this, and should have just be honest....

I think gold standing sucks, I'd have much much prefered to have joined the fan club and got in teh pit that way, but that wasn't how they did it.... SO, they should have dispanded with the fan club privilages.... OR they should have said fan clubs get GA, and get in the pit that way. They account in the pit for X number of fan club memebers, and only hand out that many bands. There is you're problem solved... oh wait, no it's not, they don't make as much money that way :evil:

It's a disgrace the band are putting up with this... They say they using the Stones as a roll model, does this mean for the next tour they'll be charing £150 for the pit £80 half way back, £45 for a crap view, and £35 for an obstructed view?????

If they do this next time I don't go, I'm not going to stick by a band who quite litterall shit on their fans. I know other bands would just not allow this to happen, Bon Jovi didn't instigate it Iapreciate, but they're in charge, they're the band, and so they're accountable

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Sorry - u talk as if someone who is just mouthing off for the sake of it.

How it works:

BJ decide they want to do a tour.

Their promoter (BJ is a band - they hire ppl for the sound & stage setup) send info to Europe that they want to do a tour....

The local promoters then act on feedback as to whether they can get BJ to play there. If so, they put down a LARGE sum to guarentee BJ's appearance. They then decide on the ticket arrangements & prices. In UK's case - they decided to use a gold ticket system. The FC have done really well to negotiate a deal that allows FC members privalegs - that justify's the £30 we pay for it. BJ have nothig to do with it (they r a band - not a promoter) - FC have no say (they r a separate company that has done well to negotiate a deal). If u r a member of the FC - u can feel glad that this deal was brokered & that u can get the privalges your £30 deserves. If not - u r subject to the ticketing rules of the promoter. & gold tickets gains u access closer to the stage than not.

I don't understand what your problem is.

Mike

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Summed up nicely, Mike. People automatically assume that Bon Jovi and the fan club run the tour when in reality it is the promoters. Bon Jovi only agrees to perform on the specified date; the rest of the details are up to the promoters. The fan club has to negotiate the deals for the fan club members just like you said. The don't call the shots. The promoter could have told the fan club to "forget it" and then Mike McRock would be complaining that there isn't anything arranged for the fan club. Because the promoter sold all the GS tickets for the pit, unless fan club members have one they won't get in. That's the fault of the promoter, not the fan club.

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Look. You talk about having rights for fan club members, and it's right, they should as they pay their money on the large part for the tour benefits... That's the reason I'd have joined, that's the reason I presume most people join. I was under the impression it was about £40, but even at 30 it's expensive....

The point is, it's all the extra's you have to pay. If you want to be at the front of a Bon Jovi concert you hae to pay EXTRA for gold standing, then EXTRA to get in the ground early. It's just rediculous.

The point is, the band are happy to let this happen, because they must know how they have been sold. They must know that what they are doing is fourcing their loyal fans to pay almost double to see them, which is pathetic.

Maybe their isn't a hell of a lot they could do now, but I doubt Jon's going to say during the concert "I'm sorry this whole tour was ****ed up, we'll make sure it won't happen again".

What the fan club have done is devised something where their not really giving you too much benefit, whilst depriving normal people substancially. It should be fair footing. Who gets down their early gets to the front, reguardless... It's just saying that who can flash the most money get's the best spot, which I hate.... Also, if the bands Bon Jovi had been seeing when they were young were charging £60 a concert, do you think thy'd have had the chance to see enough shows that they'd have been really into music? THey're being untrue to their roots. Charging going rates is one thing, but creating additional costs here and there isn't.... They could tell the fan club they're not getting tour rights, they could easily do that. They could tell promoters that Bon Jovi concerts have a fan club pit at the front, again, very easily. At the end of the day they're the band.

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The band & FC aren't huge multinational corporations, & haven't got the power to do anything about it. They depend on the promoter to play more than the promoter depend on the band.

- Whats the alternative?? Run their own tour?? You'd see an even bigger mess.

Bon Jovi are a HUGE band. They aren't Whitesnake - they can still play & sell out stadiums & the price of the tickts is the going market rate for a band such as BJ. Set by the promoters.


They certainly couldn't just 'tell' promoters they r gonna have a pit. They r a big band in the music world, but their power is very limited in dealing with these ppl. This isn't a fantasy world - it is one run by powerful corporations who's primary aim is to make money.

The FC has been going for a long time, & maybe u have a point about a level playing ppl who aren't prepared (or can't afford the cost ($40, just over £30); however it is tradition & has been in operation for many years. & I think for the price u pay for membership - it is a good return for the paying members.

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I agree with that, Mike. Here we pay our membership fees as well and then have to pay the top line ticket prices when our card allows us to stand in line for the tickets. One of the shows I bought a ticket for this summer cost me over $100....and that was just for one show, 1 ticket.