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Neurotica80 06-19-2003 04:41 PM

Hysteria - Def Leppard
 
Did anyone watch classic albums this week (uk)?? It was a programme about the making of Hysteria by Def Leppard and it was really interesting. I didnt realise so many of their best songs were on that album (Hysteria, love bites, animal, rocket, pour some sugar etc). I wanted to Buy a DL album and i was gonna get their greatest hits, but il think il buy this one instead

Stut 06-19-2003 04:53 PM

Re: Hysteria - Def Leppard
 
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Originally Posted by Bounce4BonJovi
Did anyone watch classic albums this week (uk)?? It was a programme about the making of Hysteria by Def Leppard and it was really interesting. I didnt realise so many of their best songs were on that album (Hysteria, love bites, animal, rocket, pour some sugar etc). I wanted to Buy a DL album and i was gonna get their greatest hits, but il think il buy this one instead

I have that Classic Albums DVD and it is excellent. It was interesting to hear those early demos and then how they turned into great songs. I wish that they would make similar show about Bon Jovi. And you should buy Hysteria. It is the best album ever made. IMO.

jenn1189 06-19-2003 07:34 PM

That album is incredible! It's one of the best albums I've ever heard, in my opinion. If you like Def Leppard, buy it. You won't be sorry.

RichieW2001 06-19-2003 08:42 PM

Re: Hysteria - Def Leppard
 
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Originally Posted by Stut-The-Finn
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Originally Posted by Bounce4BonJovi
Did anyone watch classic albums this week (uk)?? It was a programme about the making of Hysteria by Def Leppard and it was really interesting. I didnt realise so many of their best songs were on that album (Hysteria, love bites, animal, rocket, pour some sugar etc). I wanted to Buy a DL album and i was gonna get their greatest hits, but il think il buy this one instead

I have that Classic Albums DVD and it is excellent. It was interesting to hear those early demos and then how they turned into great songs. I wish that they would make similar show about Bon Jovi. And you should buy Hysteria. It is the best album ever made. IMO.

they did a SWW ultimate albums on vh1.

Christo 06-20-2003 12:18 AM

I like When Love And Hate Collide a lot. Um, does anyone know which ALBUM (I know it's on the greatest hits already) Two Steps Behind is on? That's a great song too! :D

jenn1189 06-20-2003 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Christo
I like When Love And Hate Collide a lot. Um, does anyone know which ALBUM (I know it's on the greatest hits already) Two Steps Behind is on? That's a great song too! :D

Two Steps Behind isn't on a regular Def Lep CD. It's from the soundtrack for the Arnold Shwarzenager movie "The Last Action Hero". It's a pretty good soundtrack (AC/DC, Aerosmith, Alice in Chains, Tesla, Queensryche), but the movie totally sucks. It's perhaps one of the worst Arnold movies EVER!!!

yomamasofat 06-20-2003 06:17 AM

Two Steps Behind is in:
- Retroactive (the B side collection)
- Last Action Hero Soundtrack
- Vault

There are 2 versions of the song in Retroactive.

Stut 06-20-2003 11:49 AM

Re: Hysteria - Def Leppard
 
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Originally Posted by RichieW2001
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Originally Posted by Stut-The-Finn
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Originally Posted by Bounce4BonJovi
Did anyone watch classic albums this week (uk)?? It was a programme about the making of Hysteria by Def Leppard and it was really interesting. I didnt realise so many of their best songs were on that album (Hysteria, love bites, animal, rocket, pour some sugar etc). I wanted to Buy a DL album and i was gonna get their greatest hits, but il think il buy this one instead

I have that Classic Albums DVD and it is excellent. It was interesting to hear those early demos and then how they turned into great songs. I wish that they would make similar show about Bon Jovi. And you should buy Hysteria. It is the best album ever made. IMO.

they did a SWW ultimate albums on vh1.

I know they did, but it isnīt the same thing.

al 06-20-2003 12:18 PM

this is one of the best records ever, and one of my favourites dl's albums. it's recorded on the 80's (1986, i think), but if you listen to it the production and the sound are incredible. nowadays, i can't found any record from any artist who has this clear and incredible sound. even dl has failed in recovering the sound.

all the songs on it are very good, and it's impossible to see any mistakes on them. maybe too much production in some of them (rocket).

in conclusion, a record to be listened to again and again. after the years, you can discover new things in it.

Mr Bluesman 06-20-2003 06:49 PM

I watched it, it was very good. It kept reminding me of Spinal Tap though.

RockerFan 06-23-2003 12:05 PM

BUY EVERYTHING BY DEF LEPPARD A PART FROM SLANG IN WHICH THERE'S JUST A FEW GOOD SONGS....FOR THE OTHERS.BUY EVERYTHING!!!

tawtami 06-26-2003 03:16 AM

they come from my town :)
rick savage went to my sixth form....:)
they do rock, it has to be said, although theyve lost a little of their touh live recently.

Mike McRock 06-27-2003 03:51 PM

I saw the program was on, but scaring backstage with Tom seemed like a more fun way to spend the evening :D

I only realised it was on midway though, and taped the last halfhour, but I have a feeling it's been taped over :mad: (not by me!)

incidently, anybody see the Deep Purple one that was on the other night? I didn't, have it on tape, but talking of close links to Spinal Tap....

That would actually be a fantastic idea for a second Spinal Tap film. They do like a 'the making of smell the glove'. Doing a how they were inspired to write songs like "sex farm woman", and showing lodes of on tour footage. I'm guessing they'd never do another, but it would be one way they could make it work!

Mr Bluesman 06-27-2003 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike McRock
incidently, anybody see the Deep Purple one that was on the other night? I didn't, have it on tape, but talking of close links to Spinal Tap....

That would actually be a fantastic idea for a second Spinal Tap film. They do like a 'the making of smell the glove'. Doing a how they were inspired to write songs like "sex farm woman", and showing lodes of on tour footage. I'm guessing they'd never do another, but it would be one way they could make it work!

Now that, would be one hell of a film! :P

Rob 06-28-2003 11:10 PM

Yeah I heard that they released 5 singles of Hysteria and they all did really well, maybe all number ones, but I doubt it. I too think it's a great album, and I only own Vault. The 5 singles from it though virtually make it a great album.

Shaun 06-29-2003 04:03 AM

i didnt know what to get between Vault and Hysteria so i bought Vault to see if i liked it and i did......so the next cd i buy will probably be Hysteria

and also i didnt know that Hysteria and SWW were released in the same year

jenn1189 06-29-2003 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun Bon Jovi
i didnt know what to get between Vault and Hysteria so i bought Vault to see if i liked it and i did......so the next cd i buy will probably be Hysteria

and also i didnt know that Hysteria and SWW were released in the same year

Hysteria is an incredible album. BUY IT!!! It's worth every penny. If I recall correctly though, Hysteria was released after SWW. I think the next year. That was a long time ago though, so I don't remember exact dates. I just remember that I was in middle school when SWW came out and in High School already for Hysteria. Goodness, that was ages ago.....


P.S. If you really like Def Leppard, I highly recommend Pyromania too. Just as good as Hysteria in my opinion.

Bleeding Purist 08-03-2003 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RockerFan
BUY EVERYTHING BY DEF LEPPARD A PART FROM SLANG IN WHICH THERE'S JUST A FEW GOOD SONGS....FOR THE OTHERS.BUY EVERYTHING!!!

Uhm..you just told them to buy everything except for the masterpiece.

Actually...if you don't like albums that are soulful with alot of depth..don't buy Slang. If you want to take a journey that will warrant many listens and analysis....got go the store now.

Bleeding Purist 08-03-2003 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun
i didnt know what to get between Vault and Hysteria so i bought Vault to see if i liked it and i did......so the next cd i buy will probably be Hysteria

and also i didnt know that Hysteria and SWW were released in the same year

Slippery When Wet was released in the Fall of 1986. Hysteria was released in September of 1987.

Youth Gone Jersey 08-03-2003 05:01 AM

Hysteria used to be one of my fav albums, I need to start listening to it again 8) Excitable is the best song on there!

Mr Bluesman 08-04-2003 12:34 AM

Pyromania and Hysteria are the best Def Leppard albums IMO.

Gods Of War on Hysteria has become one of my favourite songs recently. A fantastic track 8)

Katangel 08-08-2003 09:13 PM

Uhm..you just told them to buy everything except for the masterpiece.

Actually...if you don't like albums that are soulful with alot of depth..don't buy Slang. If you want to take a journey that will warrant many listens and analysis....got go the store now.[/quote]

Slang is a great album. I really love the lyrics and Pearl of Euphoria is one of my fave songs ever:)

Bleeding Purist 08-08-2003 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Katangel
Uhm..you just told them to buy everything except for the masterpiece.

Actually...if you don't like albums that are soulful with alot of depth..don't buy Slang. If you want to take a journey that will warrant many listens and analysis....got go the store now.

Slang is a great album. I really love the lyrics and Pearl of Euphoria is one of my fave songs ever:)[/quote]

Slang was natural progression for the band. They were just being themselves and allowing their personal and artistic maturity to be on the album. I was VERY proud of them.

If you look at the development from their first album up to Hysteria it was as much of a treat as with Bon Jovi from their first album up to These Days to experience. However, unlike Bon Jovi, Def Leppard got stupid and released Adrenalize....a worthless piece of slop that attempted to be a sequel to Hysteria..but by exagerrating all the aspects in a way that parodied themselves. Not a smart move at all and it sealed Def Leppard's image as a hair band in the minds of the public. At the same time Bon Jovi released Keep the Faith, which let the public know under no uncertain terms that they were adults and had something to say and it wasn't "your love is like BAAAD medicine." Bon Jovi is singing "All I know is what I been sold, you can read my life like a fortune told." Def Leppard (with big poofy hair that they never had at any point until 1992) sings "LETS GET LETS GET ROOOOOOOCKED!!!" Spare me. It wasn't believable or honest.

So Slang came as a shock when it came out. Much like These Days would have been a shock had Keep The Faith been "Keep On Rockin" instead with Jon having even longer/poofier hair and sparkly clothes. This works for KISS, not a band that regularly sings about day to day living among the common man. But back to Def Leppard...while Adrenalize was a sales hit, it does not reflect the quality of the album. It was selling more based on the Def Leppard name and was a last shout for the hair bands before they were killed off. This isn't what it should have been. They should have just been themselves and been honest.....show that they were adults...god knows they had demonstrated that on various songs over the years (see Gods of War, Die Hard the Hunter), they just needed to let it shine instead of suppressing it. By releasing Adrenalize, many people percieved it as "oh this is it, this is what Def Leppard is." So when Slang came out, it threw anyone who was still around for a loop. Although Retroactive, the B Sides collection that followed Adrenalize and preceded Slang did give a hint of what was to come with Desert Song and even Two Steps Behind, it still came as unexpected. Some fans like myself, if you had been paying attention all along, knew that an album like Slang was overdue. Others had already placed Def Leppard in their nostalgia department so any deviation from the music they remembered from their youth was unacceptable.

Slang was horribly misunderstood. Critics and less open minded fans were unable to comprehend it, quickly writing it off as "jumping on the Grunge bandwagon." There was just one problem...there was no grunge on the album. There was industrial, but not enough to accuse of them of jumping on that bandwagon either. If anything, the album belonged in the "alternative" category..simply because as with much "alternative" music, it is difficult to categorize. Despite this, the music was unmistakably Def Leppard, now grown up.

Unfortunately, they didn't continue the artistic development trend. Euphoria, the follow up, continued to show their maturity on some tracks, but overall it was attempting to draw upon their history as a whole and update it as opposed to moving forward. X, the most recent album moves forward, but not neccessarily in a way that many fans would like.

Back to the topic, Hysteria. This was and still is a masterpiece. It was honest and fresh at the time. The overall theme was sex and tongue in cheek lyrics. What separated the songs from the usual slop was the sophistication behind the lyrics and the arrangement. Look at "Women." The lyrics are quite silly when read, but the advanced sophistication of the music brings it home with conviction and a vengeance. As the opening track, it sets the tone for the entire album.

The album cover is precision. It reflects the album perfectly. When you look at it, you see technical sophistication merged with primal nature. It tells you exactly what you are in for just by looking at the album cover. Some of you might remember the commercial for the album. It basically featured the grid in the background forming itself as the intro to Women was heard. At the point where the wailing begins following the entry of the drums the screaming faces appeared over the grid.

Anyway, I'll stop for now. Maybe I can finally get around to my review of Bon Jovi's Tokyo Road live concert video from Japan now.


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