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Stifler 09-15-2003 01:03 PM

Only Lonely
 
Just Been Watching the Only Lonely Video Lately and i have always wondered what the story is behind it. is it like a romeo and juliet thing with all the gangs and the girls parents.

any ideas anyone

Neurotica80 09-15-2003 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stifler
Just Been Watching the Only Lonely Video Lately and i have always wondered what the story is behind it. is it like a romeo and juliet thing with all the gangs and the girls parents.

any ideas anyone

When I first watched it I thought it was a song from a film, with Steve Guttenburg being in the video. I think its just a story telling video, but not done very well. I cringe when I see Bon Jovis early videos, I think Silent nights gotta be the worst one.

Mousebounce 09-15-2003 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stifler
Just Been Watching the Only Lonely Video Lately and i have always wondered what the story is behind it. is it like a romeo and juliet thing with all the gangs and the girls parents.

any ideas anyone

When I first watched it I thought it was a song from a film, with Steve Guttenburg being in the video. I think its just a story telling video, but not done very well. I cringe when I see Bon Jovis early videos, I think Silent nights gotta be the worst one.

NOOOOO..Silent Night Rocks. It is the epitome of 80's cheesiness! This is why I love it so. 8)

Neurotica80 09-15-2003 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stifler
Just Been Watching the Only Lonely Video Lately and i have always wondered what the story is behind it. is it like a romeo and juliet thing with all the gangs and the girls parents.

any ideas anyone

When I first watched it I thought it was a song from a film, with Steve Guttenburg being in the video. I think its just a story telling video, but not done very well. I cringe when I see Bon Jovis early videos, I think Silent nights gotta be the worst one.

NOOOOO..Silent Night Rocks. It is the epitome of 80's cheesiness! This is why I love it so. 8)

Well its funny to watch, its just the actors in the video what crack me up.

Rob 09-15-2003 01:34 PM

Runway and In And Out of Love make me cringe. Especiall In and Out Of Love when the band are playing on stage. Apart from that the video is ok, and it's funny how the guys are keeping a low profile by hiding behind newspapers, etc, and I love it when Jon is on the beach with his guitar and a girl comes and kicks sand at him. :D

Neurotica80 09-15-2003 01:39 PM

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Runway and In And Out of Love make me cringe. Especiall In and Out Of Love when the band are playing on stage. Apart from that the video is ok, and it's funny how the guys are keeping a low profile by hiding behind newspapers, etc, and I love it when Jon is on the beach with his guitar and a girl comes and kicks sand at him. :D

Runaway kinda scared me a bit the first time i saw it :shock: Richie makes me laugh the most in IAOOL, those white dungerees are just hideous.

Rob 09-15-2003 02:14 PM

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Runway and In And Out of Love make me cringe. Especiall In and Out Of Love when the band are playing on stage. Apart from that the video is ok, and it's funny how the guys are keeping a low profile by hiding behind newspapers, etc, and I love it when Jon is on the beach with his guitar and a girl comes and kicks sand at him. :D

Runaway kinda scared me a bit the first time i saw it :shock: Richie makes me laugh the most in IAOOL, those white dungerees are just hideous.

And Alec on the car bonnet with that chic too. :D

Arash 09-15-2003 02:47 PM

only lonely video is so stupid, i dont like it at all, but i sure love Silent night video, except the look of the band, but the whole video is just great, its in my top 5 favorite videos...

ugly_queen_from_mars 09-15-2003 05:04 PM

most of their videos back then were so stupid... :?

BoNjOvIbabee 09-15-2003 05:31 PM

I downloaded this clip from a show one time where they were talking about the Only Lonely video. They are all going on about how like it was so bad and the person who was watching it had like no idea what was going on...it was really funny, they just show everyone and they are just giving this look with their eyebrows raised, it was great.

I thought it was really really confusing. I'm like, "Okay so...what the hell's happening now??"

I haven't seen the Runaway video in a really long time...the only thing that sticks out to me is that the girl really got on my nerves and the clothes were horrible, even for the 80's.

I thought the In and Out of Love video was hilarious. Does anyone know where they filmed it? because it looks like NJ...but it might not be so does anyone know for sure?

I liked the "She Don't Know Me" video, that was cute.

Most of their earlier videos just consist of them playing the song on stage, but I like them anyway.

Bleeding Purist 09-15-2003 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stifler
Just Been Watching the Only Lonely Video Lately and i have always wondered what the story is behind it. is it like a romeo and juliet thing with all the gangs and the girls parents.

any ideas anyone

When I first watched it I thought it was a song from a film, with Steve Guttenburg being in the video. I think its just a story telling video, but not done very well. I cringe when I see Bon Jovis early videos, I think Silent nights gotta be the worst one.

NOOOOO..Silent Night Rocks. It is the epitome of 80's cheesiness! This is why I love it so. 8)

Well its funny to watch, its just the actors in the video what crack me up.

Uhm.... what is it about them (the actors in Silent Night) that cracks you up? Furthermore, how is the video cheesy? It follows the song, artistically no less with the use of the walls around them projecting their story when times were happier while they play out the present. The only cheesy thing about the video is the band's clothes....Alec's more than anything. Otherwise the video is well done and not much to laugh about unless you completely have no sense of relationships and how tragic they can be.

Finally, where the hell is Steve Guttenberg in Only Lonely?

Mousebounce 09-15-2003 11:57 PM

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Just Been Watching the Only Lonely Video Lately and i have always wondered what the story is behind it. is it like a romeo and juliet thing with all the gangs and the girls parents.

any ideas anyone

When I first watched it I thought it was a song from a film, with Steve Guttenburg being in the video. I think its just a story telling video, but not done very well. I cringe when I see Bon Jovis early videos, I think Silent nights gotta be the worst one.

NOOOOO..Silent Night Rocks. It is the epitome of 80's cheesiness! This is why I love it so. 8)

Well its funny to watch, its just the actors in the video what crack me up.

Uhm.... what is it about them (the actors in Silent Night) that cracks you up? Furthermore, how is the video cheesy? It follows the song, artistically no less with the use of the walls around them projecting their story when times were happier while they play out the present. The only cheesy thing about the video is the band's clothes....Alec's more than anything. Otherwise the video is well done and not much to laugh about unless you completely have no sense of relationships and how tragic they can be.

Finally, where the hell is Steve Guttenberg in Only Lonely?

I think it is just hard to get past the big hair and bad clothes. But I do love the video along with the song. :D

Yvonne 09-16-2003 02:12 AM

I love all the 80s videos! They are better than what we've been getting recently!

Keba 09-16-2003 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BoNjOvIbabee
I thought the In and Out of Love video was hilarious. Does anyone know where they filmed it? because it looks like NJ...but it might not be so does anyone know for sure?

It is NJ. Sambo-Chris has pictures on her site from when she visited the place where they shot the film.

casbren 09-16-2003 02:35 AM

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I thought the In and Out of Love video was hilarious. Does anyone know where they filmed it? because it looks like NJ...but it might not be so does anyone know for sure?

You are correct. The In & Out video was filmed on the Boardwalk in Seaside Heights, NJ. Everytime I'm there, the video comes to mind. And the video is one of my faves for that reason! :wink: Gotta love the 80's cheese!

Neurotica80 09-16-2003 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist

Uhm.... what is it about them (the actors in Silent Night) that cracks you up? Furthermore, how is the video cheesy? It follows the song, artistically no less with the use of the walls around them projecting their story when times were happier while they play out the present. The only cheesy thing about the video is the band's clothes....Alec's more than anything. Otherwise the video is well done and not much to laugh about unless you completely have no sense of relationships and how tragic they can be.

Finally, where the hell is Steve Guttenberg in Only Lonely?

Lets see what makes me laugh about the video for "silent night". The "actors" are really, really bad. If you watch their facial expressions, (the bit where their on the rollercoaster esp!) it looks like their gonna crack up laughing themselves. The hair and make up which you said, (i can forgive them that though seen as it was 1985) and yes the whole story line is very chessy to me and you can tell its been done on a very low budget. And yes I do know how tragic relationships can be thanku but it doesnt take a video like that for me to see it, I can work that out for myself by listening to the lyrics of the song. Also if these videos were so great how come they didnt do any like that for the slippery and NJ albums??!

Like I said though all the early videos are still fun to watch, its shows how much the bands progressed, whod have thought watching terrible videos like that theyd still be around 20 years later and sold nearly 100 mil albums.

Finally, Steve Guttenburg was the one in the silent night video with the moustach, in leather, with a headband on.

Stifler 09-16-2003 01:08 PM

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Uhm.... what is it about them (the actors in Silent Night) that cracks you up? Furthermore, how is the video cheesy? It follows the song, artistically no less with the use of the walls around them projecting their story when times were happier while they play out the present. The only cheesy thing about the video is the band's clothes....Alec's more than anything. Otherwise the video is well done and not much to laugh about unless you completely have no sense of relationships and how tragic they can be.

Finally, where the hell is Steve Guttenberg in Only Lonely?

Lets see what makes me laugh about the video for "silent night". The "actors" are really, really bad. If you watch their facial expressions, (the bit where their on the rollercoaster esp!) it looks like their gonna crack up laughing themselves. The hair and make up which you said, (i can forgive them that though seen as it was 1985) and yes the whole story line is very chessy to me and you can tell its been done on a very low budget. And yes I do know how tragic relationships can be thanku but it doesnt take a video like that for me to see it, I can work that out for myself by listening to the lyrics of the song. Also if these videos were so great how come they didnt do any like that for the slippery and NJ albums??!

Like I said though all the early videos are still fun to watch, its shows how much the bands progressed, whod have thought watching terrible videos like that theyd still be around 20 years later and sold nearly 100 mil albums.

Finally, Steve Guttenburg was the one in the silent night video with the moustach, in leather, with a headband on.

Are you sure its Steve Guttenburg. I just dont think it looks like him, I know that he did dress up that way in one of the Police Academy films when he went undercover.

And to all those that matter, I love all the old videos especially Only Lonely

Bleeding Purist 09-16-2003 01:33 PM

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Lets see what makes me laugh about the video for "silent night". The "actors" are really, really bad. If you watch their facial expressions, (the bit where their on the rollercoaster esp!) it looks like their gonna crack up laughing themselves. The hair and make up which you said, (i can forgive them that though seen as it was 1985) and yes the whole story line is very chessy to me and you can tell its been done on a very low budget. And yes I do know how tragic relationships can be thanku but it doesnt take a video like that for me to see it, I can work that out for myself by listening to the lyrics of the song. Also if these videos were so great how come they didnt do any like that for the slippery and NJ albums??!

Finally, Steve Guttenburg was the one in the silent night video with the moustach, in leather, with a headband on.

I'm pretty sure at no point do the actors ride a roller coaster in Silent Night....there is a shot of them driving on a bridge though and they are acting like people driving on a bridge. I just don't see any really bad acting going on.

If memory serves me right....Silent Night was never released to video outlets. It was a home video release only, just as Wild in the Streets and Blood on Blood were. It did get aired later on MTV....much later....on Bon Jovi Sunday during the New Jersey period. So it couldn't do anything to bring attention to the band regardless of the quality of the video. But that video is actually pretty high quality considering it was 1985. Watch any other video from even Artists that were huge at the time and see how much better their videos were. Both In and Out of Love and Silent Night were a big leap ahead for Bon Jovi compared to the god awful video for Runaway...you wanna talk cheese...drag that one out.

I'm sure it does make a difference though for those of us who watched these videos when they were brand new. Saw the world premieres and witnessed them going up and down the video charts as opposed to fans who are basically doing the equivalent of looking at baby pictures of someone they just met relatively recently.

On topic, Only Lonely was a freakin mess! Just about everyone who has seen it says the same thing..they think it's from some movie they never heard of and so did I. In a way it makes it engaging..but it's overkill really. Who'd have thought they'd create another video that has nothing to do with the song with Always, 10 years later.

That is not Steve Guttenberg in the video, sorry.

Neurotica80 09-16-2003 01:39 PM

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On topic, Only Lonely was a freakin mess! Just about everyone who has seen it says the same thing..they think it's from some movie they never heard of and so did I. In a way it makes it engaging..but it's overkill really. Who'd have thought they'd create another video that has nothing to do with the song with Always, 10 years later.

That is not Steve Guttenberg in the video, sorry.

I guess I just prefer Bon Jovi Videos what concentrate on the band instead of actors.

Il have to take another look at the video for OL but i was 99% sure that it was Steve Guttenburg.

Bleeding Purist 09-17-2003 02:11 AM

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On topic, Only Lonely was a freakin mess! Just about everyone who has seen it says the same thing..they think it's from some movie they never heard of and so did I. In a way it makes it engaging..but it's overkill really. Who'd have thought they'd create another video that has nothing to do with the song with Always, 10 years later.

That is not Steve Guttenberg in the video, sorry.

I guess I just prefer Bon Jovi Videos what concentrate on the band instead of actors.

Il have to take another look at the video for OL but i was 99% sure that it was Steve Guttenburg.

In all the times I've watched the video, not once has it ever occured to me that the guy swinging the axe in the beginning is Steve Guttenberg. This is because it looks nothing like him. That's just my personal observation.

Then there are the facts.....Steve Guttenberg was a star at that point. One of the more in demand ones at the time. A star of his stature simply does not take an almost invisible role in a music video, especially by a band that has yet to make a name for itself in the States. There is no connection between any of the band members and Steve Guttenberg that would suggest he would agree to do it as a favor or whatever.

Then there is the fact that the Bon Jovi camp routinely credits actors who have appeared in their videos who are recognizable names and even less so. Not once has Steven Guttenberg been mentioned.

Jack Noseworthy, an actor no one gives a crap about except for teen girls who think he's supposed to be a young Jon Bon Jovi, gets plenty of credit by the Bon Jovi camp for his role in Always. Why would he get the credit he does while Steve Guttenberg, a lead billing actor, is never mentioned?

These are rhetorical questions.....I do not need answers. I'm simply pointing out the absurdity of the notion that Steve Guttenberg, a big name comedy actor in 1985, appeared in a decidely serious nondescript role as a mob man/gangbanger/whatever in a music video by a relatively unknown band and has never been credited or mentioned as appearing in the role.

jenn1189 09-17-2003 02:20 AM

That is not Steve Guttenburg. I don't think that guy looks at all like Steve Guttenburg. As for the video, it's cheesy. But that good cheesy that many 80's videos had. I like it.

Miracle 09-18-2003 05:53 AM

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That is not Steve Guttenburg. I don't think that guy looks at all like Steve Guttenburg. As for the video, it's cheesy. But that good cheesy that many 80's videos had. I like it.

Most of the videos from the 80s were like that! Cheesy, that is.

Stephanie

Stifler 09-18-2003 10:23 AM

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That is not Steve Guttenburg. I don't think that guy looks at all like Steve Guttenburg. As for the video, it's cheesy. But that good cheesy that many 80's videos had. I like it.

Most of the videos from the 80s were like that! Cheesy, that is.

Stephanie

The 80's were the 80's and if you didn't live it then you didn't appreciate it.

Stifler

SamboraChic 09-18-2003 07:02 PM

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The 80's were the 80's and if you didn't live it then you didn't appreciate it.
Stifler

OH how true! Personally, those videos I love. Yes, I love them all because that was my Bon Jovi then. Sure, they don't make sense but it reminds me and probably a lot of us of a special time. That time for me was great cause Bon Jovi was all over TV and the world. I enjoy watching the videos. Memory lane is wonderful.

kety 09-18-2003 10:10 PM

this is so funny video. i like She Don`t know me video more

Bleeding Purist 09-19-2003 01:29 AM

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That is not Steve Guttenburg. I don't think that guy looks at all like Steve Guttenburg. As for the video, it's cheesy. But that good cheesy that many 80's videos had. I like it.

Most of the videos from the 80s were like that! Cheesy, that is.

Stephanie

The 80's were the 80's and if you didn't live it then you didn't appreciate it.

Stifler

Exactly....they'll understand in 20 years when they watch the music videos of today that are considered top notch.

Bon Jovi has never really done "cheesy" Videos. Runaway is about the only one that qualifies as a low-budget-cheesy-even-for-the-times video. They've been pretty consistent with putting out upper tier videos. She Don't Know Me comes close..but mostly its an example of making the best out of what you have to work with.

A video qualifies as cheesy when you watch other music videos from the same period and notice the quality of them are better than the one in question. But if it's uniform....then it probably wasn't cheesy. There is no music video or movie in the world that isn't going to look dated 20 years later.

It's fine to have your opinion....but when sweeping statements like that are made about a time period you didn't live..it only shows your ignorance as opposed to an educated opinion. It's great younger fans try to play catch up....but they also need to learn to understand what they are seeing or hearing when it comes to music and videos that are before their time.

Neurotica80 09-19-2003 11:47 AM

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It's fine to have your opinion....but when sweeping statements like that are made about a time period you didn't live..it only shows your ignorance as opposed to an educated opinion. It's great younger fans try to play catch up....but they also need to learn to understand what they are seeing or hearing when it comes to music and videos that are before their time.

Ok im presuming that was aimed at me. Im not ignorant but I watch those videos and my OPINION about them is that thier not very good. Nothing to do with image and hair and make up, I would class them as cheesy yes. Even Jon Bon Jovi said "if you wanna torture me then sit me down and make me watch out first 5 videos". But i did say that watching those videos today shows how much the bands progressed.

Neurotica80 09-19-2003 11:50 AM

Oh and to call someone un-educated just because they have a different opinion to you shows how arrogant you are.

Tashjbj 09-19-2003 12:03 PM

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Oh and to call someone un-educated just because they have a different opinion to you shows how arrogant you are.

Totally agree!!

Tash

Bleeding Purist 09-19-2003 03:03 PM

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Oh and to call someone un-educated just because they have a different opinion to you shows how arrogant you are.

Call it arrogance, call it luck...me i just don't..... oh never mind.

I said Ignorance, not uneducated.

Jon doesn't like videos..period. His being embarassed has nothing to do with the relative quality of the videos.

What you said only proves Stifler's comment.

Yeah, you can watch the more recent videos and say "look how far they have come." Because the more recent videos use production standards that exist now. These videos will look just as "cheesy" in 15 years. But you may not see it so readily because you are actually experiencing those videos as brand new. THEN you'll understand what some of us are saying when some kid is pointing at your favorite Bon Jovi video from 2000 being shown in 2015 and he's laughing and saying how CHEESY it is and how everything in 2000 was Cheesy. You'll see how it is dated by that point..but you'll also see it for what it was and not try to hold it to 2015 production standards.

Neurotica80 09-19-2003 03:35 PM

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it only shows your ignorance as opposed to an educated opinion. .

........ this could go on and on. You are a fan of the early videos and im not. Its as simple as that really. All I will say is me thinking those videos are cheesy and amaturish looking has nothing to do with the era they were made in.


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