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angu2k 08-01-2002 01:27 PM

Everyday IS written & produced by someone else....
 
Just found out that BJ has not written the song Everyday...for those who are swedish here is the link that tells the story...

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/noje/s...188876,00.html

Elliot 08-01-2002 01:33 PM

jon bon jovi did /did not write EVERYDAY
 
Jon would of written part of the song because he'd never put a song on an album again that was'nt his. ex. She dont know me(This is never performed live and i have the rare occasion) :roll:

angu2k 08-01-2002 01:45 PM

Just to let you know...i got 5 live versions of "She don't know me"....and to let know even more..IML was written & co-produced by Max Martin

Sambo-Chris 08-01-2002 01:48 PM

Elliot is right. The song is written by Richie and Jon PLUS this songwriter from Sweden. They never would publish a song that isn't written by themselves.

angu2k 08-01-2002 01:54 PM

So how about "Rockin' In The Free World"...i would say that it is published on the cd OWN....and it is for sure NOT richie/jon who has written that song, it is a old classic song by Neil Young. So it is not true that "They never would publish a song that isn't written by themselves"

If you could read swedish you would be able to read this "For Bon Jovi, Andreas Carlsson has both written & publiced the song Everyday on the forthcoming album Bounce"

Stut 08-01-2002 01:59 PM

I'm sure that they meant on studio album. OWN is a live album. And they have put other cover songs on b-sides too but they have never put somebody else's song on actual studio album.

angu2k 08-01-2002 02:01 PM

How about IML ?

Stut 08-01-2002 02:03 PM

What about IML? Written by Jon, Richie & probably Max Martin

angu2k 08-01-2002 02:09 PM

"& probably max martin"

You know...you are so damn in love with the band you simply can't see them get a hit single if someone else wrote it.

At least here in sweden it was lots of talking...because jon said something like "we did all the writing ourselvs...max didnt help much"....when it really was the other way around.

And look back...the band has always needed help with the writing and producing.....

Mike 08-01-2002 02:10 PM

Rockin in the free world was just a cover performed live - they have done loads of these & thought 'cos of the political significance it should be included on the OWN Live album. As far as I know Jon has co-written all studio produced songs (except She don't know me).

If u have proof that he didn't co-write on IML I'd be happy to change my opinion - although this Max Martin guy isn't even mentioned in the Crush booklet.

Mike

PS - Can anyone translate that Swedish article?

Kris 08-01-2002 02:35 PM

Then go ask BJ HQ what's true and whta's not...

Kris

Sambo-Chris 08-01-2002 02:35 PM

Angu2, yes, they got help in the past by other songwriters. But the word HELP is the keyword. They always wrote and will write their songs by themselves, but it's of course okay when they hear the opinion of someone else and take some ideas.

According to the Backstage newsletter (Jon's letter in it) Everyday was written a few days after Sept. 11 in Nashville by Richie and Jon. They propably showed the song to this Swedish songwriter and he gave his ideas and they changed this and that. That's why he is credited as a songwriter, too.

Stut 08-01-2002 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angu2k
"& probably max martin"

You know...you are so damn in love with the band you simply can't see them get a hit single if someone else wrote it.

Huh? Actually, I don't give a flying f-word who writes the songs. Guys have had hits with and without co-writers.

Fredrik 08-01-2002 02:49 PM

Here's the article, translated:

- SWEDE HELPS BON JOVI -

Bon Jovi has once again turn their heads to Sweden for another hit.
Multiproducer Andreas Carlsson lies behind the bands upcoming new single "Everyday".
It was another swede that helped launch Bon Jovis somewhat sleepy career into fame again a couple of years ago. The american rockband turned to the demonproducer Max Martin - and got a huge hit with "It's My Life". The band sold eight million copies of their latest album "Crush".

When the time has come for Bon Jovi to release another album the band turned their heads to Sweden once again. This time Andreas Carlsson got the honourable mission. He has with his studio The Location the last few years created hits for people like Céline Dion and Britney Spears.
Just recently he worked with the somewhat forgotten hard-rock bad Def Leppard.
- "Many old bands like this need a hit to remain at the record company" said Andreas Carlsson at that time to Aftonbladet.
For Bon Jovi he has both written and produced the single "Everyday" from the new album "Bounce" that comes out on September 23rd.
Andreas Carlsson hasn't had bad luck with a song in five years. And he won't have bad luck this time around either.
Aftonbladet was effortless trying to reach Andreas Carlsson for a comment, but he wasn't to be found.

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Alright, now to my own perspective. The paper are wrong on several acounts in this article. First of all is that Andreas Carlsson did NOT both write and produced the song himself, there's no WAY IN HELL that none of the band members would allow a song on the album to be completely produced and written by someone else. What I think is the real truth is that this song was written by Jon, Richie AND Andreas. Cause that's what happened with their last hit "It's My Life".
And the other part of the article when Andreas makes his statement about "bands need a hit to remain on the record company" he's talking about Def Leppard and not Bon Jovi. But the context still feels like he's talking about Bon Jovi.
The article is very poorly written and I hope this will be cleared out soon. I've asked BJHQ to see if I can get any straight answers from them. If you feel like it, please ask the question yourselves as it would probably result in larger chance on getting an answer. And also, mail the idiot Klas Lindberg and tell him how things are run that Carlsson did not write the song himself (amongst other things). He's e-mail is klas.lindberg@aftonbladet.se. Just write in swedish if you know that language, otherwise type english!

- Fredrik

Kris 08-01-2002 02:57 PM

Well I sure hope he didn't write it alone. Can't
imagine that he did. But you know, you can't
keep yelling that you are a rockband and not
a pop band and at the same time work with
songwriters that produce sad and cheap popsongs
for (of all people...) Britney Spears and the
Backstreet Boys, that doesn't match. Kinda
disappointed by that fact anyhow.

Kris

Kris 08-01-2002 02:58 PM

Think it's because I'm a little too naive ;-)

Kris

Mike 08-01-2002 04:04 PM

I think a bit of reading between the lines is required in this article:

It was written by a Swedesh paper about a Swede - hence there is gonna be a thread of bias running through it. Part of the art of reading tabloids is to see through this.

They also simply say that the guy HELPED write IML - this means he was part of 3 way contribution.

They say he wrote Everyday & produced it, but it doesn't say he did this on his own. & going on past BJ song construction & what they have said it stands to reason that he only had a joint role in this.

Concerning the fact that he wrote songs for Britney?? - So what? - He didn't have Jon & Richie joining him on that occasion.

Mike

daveyboy 08-01-2002 04:07 PM

Calm yourself Mike, remember the blood pressure!

Kris 08-01-2002 04:21 PM

Nope, thank god Jon & Richie weren't there, but
c'mon, it's just a fact that this Max Martin is a
(commercial) hitwonder. That they work with him
just so they can score a hit is just a bit disappointing
to me, sorry. Still kinda hoped they'd be a commercial
succes on their own strenght.

Kris

Mike 08-01-2002 05:38 PM

Daveyboy - sorry if my last post seemed a bit rash (it wasn't meant to be) - just trying to put down my opinion. Kris (& Angu too for that matter) are also perfectly entitled to post their opinions too.

Mike

Derek Bliss 08-01-2002 06:19 PM

I don't think this is as difficult to understand as we're making it.
My money is on the Andreas Carlsson having collaborated with the band (like Max Martin did.)
But just as the Swedish press did with It's My Life, they chose to focus the attention and the credit to the local-boy-made-good at the expense of Bon Jovi. And that's probably why Jon was so unhappy with the Swedish press last time round... looks like they're up to the same thing this time around.
Are they just idiots or can they not translate the most basic information provided by the band that the album was being produced by Jon, Richie and Ebbin again? Or are they selectively deaf to the obvious?

Hopefully, the band will provide the songwriting credits this time. But I'm not going to believe the Swedish papers when they're whole spin is about their own with a good dash of disrespect and misrepresentation of Bon Jovi.

angu2k 08-01-2002 07:41 PM

Well, I am sure that the band come up with the great idea to put the talkbox in the beginning....to make it sound at least a little bon jovi. So the swedish writer didnt do _everything_ himself....

You know....you fans suck bigtime. You are _the_ most narrowminded ppl i have ever met...in the last week i have that heard by the most of you (thank god, there are ppl who are different) that i must be stupid and so on...because i think "everyday" is a real "Ī#% terrible song. It is the most commercial and probably the wrost bj song i've ever heard....and believe me...i heard alot. I've even heard "She don't know me" live....because i have the "Ī#% bootleg...

I'm giving up bj for now....this #"% hysteria has gone far enough. Gonna keep to bands where the fans at least have one feet on the ground....

My Sweet Satan 666 08-01-2002 07:43 PM

hahaha.... well no they going down to the deepest ground. how long down can you go with out lose your reputation. I think bj passed that line now.

Bon Jovi have becomed a bigger sellout than f*ckin' Metallica. And that's hard, but they have done it.

And hello to Jon, Richie, Tico, David and Hugh if someone of you read this i can tell you: You've lost a fan in me!

Emil 08-01-2002 07:57 PM

I canīt really understand this mess! We all KNOW, and i mean it, that Bon Jovi NEVER would let a song go on an album, which isnīt written by themselves! We all know it. Itīs impossible. So I canīt really understand why everbody are so worried. Of course, it sounds terrible and you are afraid that it would be the truth - but it isnīt. Iīve heard Jon saiyng several times that "She donīt know me" is the BJ-song he rates lowest because itīs not, as he says, "his song".
This is no big deal, just that the journalist isnīt very good at cheking his sources and get the right information. Jon would never let this happen, and all of us - the big fans - knows it so ****in' well!
Maybe Jon and Richie are starting a sort of new team with swedish writers - kind of like they had (and still has) with the excellent Desmopn Child. And so long it gives us songs like "Itīs my life" and "Everyday" I think we shouldnīt complain too much. Be happy folks!
/ Emil, Sweden


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