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Dawn 02-29-2004 01:18 AM

Drug testing prior to music shows/concerts !
 
Hello,

Everyone keeps going on about drug testing kids or athletes. How stupid, look at what kids are into the most at that age = MUSIC. FILMS

A lot of musicians/actors have openly taken drugs, they end up in enough drug clinics.

I think singers/actors should be made to have drug tests before they can go to work ie perform ....... if they test positive then they are banned from performing for 6 mths.

This would show a good example to childern rather than allowing the drug taking singers to continue performing + getting paid.

Dawn

Supersonic 02-29-2004 01:20 AM

Aloha !

I think Richie wouldn't be on stage for about 20% of the shows he's performing as he sometimes looks like he definitely smoked some weed.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Dawn 02-29-2004 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic
Aloha !

I think Richie wouldn't be on stage for about 20% of the shows he's performing as he sometimes looks like he definitely smoked some weed.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

probably stronger stuff than that !!!!!!!! Most singers would have never got on stage .

If they were going to get tested it would put them off taking any drugs and set an example for kids.

Dawn

Mike 02-29-2004 01:25 AM

Re: Drug testing prior to music shows/concerts !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn
Hello,

Everyone keeps going on about drug testing kids or athletes. How stupid, look at what kids are into the most at that age = MUSIC. FILMS

A lot of musicians/actors have openly taken drugs, they end up in enough drug clinics.

I think singers/actors should be made to have drug tests before they can go to work ie perform ....... if they test positive then they are banned from performing for 6 mths.

This would show a good example to childern rather than allowing the drug taking singers to continue performing + getting paid.

Dawn

Then we just get into the nasty habit of convicting ppl for using - spending loads of resources on that, and having less time to devote to the dealers. In other words going after the soft target.

And considering with an actor / singer that is how they make their living, what are they going to do for that 6 months?? Turn to crime to pay the bills?? As long as they don't take the drugs on stage, it is their choice.

The argument about testing children is that it is a crucial stage of development. A chance to turn them away from a drug filled future - where many of them haven't got the same ability of making a choice not to take them as an adult (Peer pressure).

In an ideal world, no-one would take drugs, any one doing so would be convicted.. no-one would break the speed limit, there would be a policeman patrolling every street (or big brother), but aside from an unrealistic amount of resources the country would be akin to the world created in Demolition man.

Supersonic 02-29-2004 01:25 AM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn
probably stronger stuff than that !!!!!!!! Most singers would have never got on stage .

If they were going to get tested it would put them off taking any drugs and set an example for kids.

Dawn

Why ? Does Richie or Jon looks and acts like a drug addict ? I don't care if anyone's using drugs, as long as his behaviour is alright.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Dawn 02-29-2004 01:35 AM

the point is Mike

as you have said childern are at an impressionable age and changing, so why should they be subjected to stories and pictures of their a singer/actor who they admire who is performing on drugs . Surely this sets a bad example to the childern, for example take Robbie WIlliams, an admitted drug user over and over again, what did we see of him repeated drug taking, didnt make a difference to his career, surely this send sa message to kids that its ok to take drugs it wont effect your life, hey look at Robbie Williams!

Hey Super, you've said previously that you noticed Richie behaviour, its easy to spot drugged up behaviour, kids arent stupid, we are, to let it carry on in front of kids with out putting laws in place to stop it. Its like saying well if you want to be an athelete then its no to drugs, but there goes Liam from Oasis again, ok just another tortured singer living off millions we jsut let him carry on!!!!!!!

Dawn

Mike 02-29-2004 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn
the point is Mike

as you have said childern are at an impressionable age and changing, so why should they be subjected to stories and pictures of their a singer/actor who they admire who is performing on drugs . Surely this sets a bad example to the childern, for example take Robbie WIlliams, an admitted drug user over and over again, what did we see of him repeated drug taking, didnt make a difference to his career, surely this send sa message to kids that its ok to take drugs it wont effect your life, hey look at Robbie Williams!

His career only took off after he became clean though, and how many singers have self exploded over taking drugs?? There are more stories that will deter children from taking drugs than there are encouraging ones.

Drugs are still illegal whoever takes them & if the police etc.. here about singers or whoever taking drugs, they generally take action.

Quote:

Hey Super, you've said previously that you noticed Richie behaviour, its easy to spot drugged up behaviour, kids arent stupid, we are, to let it carry on in front of kids with out putting laws in place to stop it.
There are laws in place. Maybe they could be enforced more strongley but you cannot randomly test singers for drugs, without having to test everyone else.

Quote:

Its like saying well if you want to be an athelete then its no to drugs, but there goes Liam from Oasis again, ok just another tortured singer living off millions we jsut let him carry on!!!!!!!
It is the athletes body though that tests for drugs. Not the government. Just like many firms have a random drugs testing facility in place.

Maybe it could be made the responsibility of the record company - but how many r going to implement that & risk losing their stars??

If a government introduces a policy it cannot be limited to music.

Supersonic 02-29-2004 01:46 AM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn
the point is Mike

as you have said childern are at an impressionable age and changing, so why should they be subjected to stories and pictures of their a singer/actor who they admire who is performing on drugs . Surely this sets a bad example to the childern, for example take Robbie WIlliams, an admitted drug user over and over again, what did we see of him repeated drug taking, didnt make a difference to his career, surely this send sa message to kids that its ok to take drugs it wont effect your life, hey look at Robbie Williams!

I totally disagree. Children are always impressed by a singer, no matter if he's using drugs or not, and someone that starts with drugs isn't doing it because Robbie William or any other star is doing it. He/She is doing it because the person wants to try something new.

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Hey Super, you've said previously that you noticed Richie behaviour, its easy to spot drugged up behaviour,
For me yes, but I don't think a kid can tell you Richie is on drugs when just smoking some weed. There's nothing bad in smoking a joint every now and then. I don't do it myself, but the entire weed thing has been blown out of proportions by people who've never smoked it but just know it's drugs and therefor bad. Science has proven that smoking weed is good for you just as long as you don't do it too often. It's better to smoke one joint every week then one ciggie.

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kids arent stupid, we are, to let it carry on in front of kids with out putting laws in place to stop it. Its like saying well if you want to be an athelete then its no to drugs, but there goes Liam from Oasis again, ok just another tortured singer living off millions we jsut let him carry on!!!!!!!
You can't make laws for anything. Kids see famous stars smoke cigarettes as well, you don't say "I don't want to see a famous star with a ciggie in his mouth as it might put my kid on the Marlboro Lights"

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Dawn 02-29-2004 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn
the point is Mike

as you have said childern are at an impressionable age and changing, so why should they be subjected to stories and pictures of their a singer/actor who they admire who is performing on drugs . Surely this sets a bad example to the childern, for example take Robbie WIlliams, an admitted drug user over and over again, what did we see of him repeated drug taking, didnt make a difference to his career, surely this send sa message to kids that its ok to take drugs it wont effect your life, hey look at Robbie Williams!

His career only took off after he became clean though, and how many singers have self exploded over taking drugs?? There are more stories that will deter children from taking drugs than there are encouraging ones.

Drugs are still illegal whoever takes them & if the police etc.. here about singers or whoever taking drugs, they generally take action.

Quote:

Hey Super, you've said previously that you noticed Richie behaviour, its easy to spot drugged up behaviour, kids arent stupid, we are, to let it carry on in front of kids with out putting laws in place to stop it.
There are laws in place. Maybe they could be enforced more strongley but you cannot randomly test singers for drugs, without having to test everyone else.

Quote:

Its like saying well if you want to be an athelete then its no to drugs, but there goes Liam from Oasis again, ok just another tortured singer living off millions we jsut let him carry on!!!!!!!
It is the athletes body though that tests for drugs. Not the government. Just like many firms have a random drugs testing facility in place.

Maybe it could be made the responsibility of the record company - but how many r going to implement that & risk losing their stars??

If a government introduces a policy it cannot be limited to music.

I agree it should be implemented into the modelling world to. Everyone who is about to perform, like an athelete performs, so i dont see the difference. Performing is someone showing off their skill or art, we dont allow an athelete to win races when they take drugs so we shouldnt allow a singer to reach number one who is using also.

Dawn 02-29-2004 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic
Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawn
the point is Mike

as you have said childern are at an impressionable age and changing, so why should they be subjected to stories and pictures of their a singer/actor who they admire who is performing on drugs . Surely this sets a bad example to the childern, for example take Robbie WIlliams, an admitted drug user over and over again, what did we see of him repeated drug taking, didnt make a difference to his career, surely this send sa message to kids that its ok to take drugs it wont effect your life, hey look at Robbie Williams!

I totally disagree. Children are always impressed by a singer, no matter if he's using drugs or not, and someone that starts with drugs isn't doing it because Robbie William or any other star is doing it. He/She is doing it because the person wants to try something new.

Quote:

Hey Super, you've said previously that you noticed Richie behaviour, its easy to spot drugged up behaviour,
For me yes, but I don't think a kid can tell you Richie is on drugs when just smoking some weed. There's nothing bad in smoking a joint every now and then. I don't do it myself, but the entire weed thing has been blown out of proportions by people who've never smoked it but just know it's drugs and therefor bad. Science has proven that smoking weed is good for you just as long as you don't do it too often. It's better to smoke one joint every week then one ciggie.

Quote:

kids arent stupid, we are, to let it carry on in front of kids with out putting laws in place to stop it. Its like saying well if you want to be an athelete then its no to drugs, but there goes Liam from Oasis again, ok just another tortured singer living off millions we jsut let him carry on!!!!!!!
You can't make laws for anything. Kids see famous stars smoke cigarettes as well, you don't say "I don't want to see a famous star with a ciggie in his mouth as it might put my kid on the Marlboro Lights"

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

A lot of stars will go out of their way to not be seen smoking to present a bad picture to kids, hardly anyone smokes anymore on tv. Its ironic, u find more people /stories, plots of people taking drugs than you do of them smoking a cig.

Kids dont start smoking on their own, they have always seen someone esle smoking first, whether on tv or their parents, it looks cool so they have a go. The same thing can be said for drugs, something inside make s them want to say no, but then with so many bad influences around them of people already using they try it.

Dawn


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