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Calyx 03-12-2004 11:52 AM

What's the best Def Leppard album since Hysteria?
 
I think Adrenalise is probably my fave of the ones they have done since. I think their music was probably at its best with Hysteria, then it was a bit downhill from there. I wouldn't mind if they tried something was sounded more raw and unpolished cause they sound a bit like a boyband on some of the more recent stuff.

What album do you think has been their best of the last 12 years?

Bleeding Purist 03-12-2004 03:09 PM

Slang was undoubtably the best all around work and criminally underrated.

They had been trainblazing all the way up to Hysteria....a delicate balance between artists and commercialism was kept....that came to a screeching halt with Adrenalize...a poor sequel to Hysteria (and they had never done a sequel to anything before then) that came with exaggerations of everything Leppard...never mind that plenty of poor imitation bands had already ruined what was originally cool and fresh. The band themselves had to go and parody themselves. They had the spotlight on them still so the album did fairly well...as did the tour....people went...had a good laugh as they said farewell to hair metal, which Leppard obviously had embraced, and then promptly wrote the band off as having nothing fresh to offer.

They showed promise with Retroactive and then got back on track with Slang..unfortunately...since they squandered their spotlight with Adrenalize...no one gave a sh** and never heard it. Critics often misunderstood it..attempting to brand it as an attempt at grunge (none to be found) and dimwitted fans who thought Leppard was about Pour Some Sugar On Me couldn't handle it. After one listen, I was a believer again. Adrenalize had put me off the band that much. The only good thing about Adrenalize was they began to play live even better.

Adrenalize remains at the bottom of my CD heap, where it deserves to be while Slang is among my desert island discs.

Euphoria was more forgiveable..despite it's obvious swipes from past work, they also continued to offer fresh material mixed in with old ideas.

X, like Bon Jovi's Crush...features dumbed down lyrics and an overall sound that borrows from a trend that was on it's way out when the album hit stores. It's saving grace is Scar and Kiss The Day.

So Slang it is.

Neurotica80 03-12-2004 03:14 PM

Which album was released in the early 90's and had, have you ever needed someone so bad and lets get rocked on it?? That one.

Iceman 03-12-2004 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Neurotica80
Which album was released in the early 90's and had, have you ever needed someone so bad and lets get rocked on it?? That one.

Adrenalize.

Ice

Neurotica80 03-12-2004 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman
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Originally Posted by Neurotica80
Which album was released in the early 90's and had, have you ever needed someone so bad and lets get rocked on it?? That one.

Adrenalize.

Ice

Thanks. Yes that one

Stut 03-12-2004 06:56 PM

Re: What's the best Def Leppard album since Hysteria?
 
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Originally Posted by Calyx
What album do you think has been their best of the last 12 years?

SLANG!

stevesbiggestfan 03-12-2004 07:53 PM

Well, I was gonna say none, but I guess the best thing they've released since Hysteria would have to be Retroactive... the songs featuring Clark are damn good :)

jade4jovi 03-12-2004 08:05 PM

I love the song love and hate collide.. think its called that.. Thats such a great song! I found it up afew days ago and got excited, Put it on and it bloody screwed up and all the tape bit came out ARGGHH :mad:

Dave 1986 03-12-2004 08:05 PM

Definately Sl@ng!

It's a damn shame how underrated it was both with critics and Def Leppard fans. I liked the way they were going with Sl@ng and wish they continued with a similar formula from then on, instead of taking a step back with Euphoria. (I've not heard it yet, but aparently it is typical Def Leppard)

However I was impressed with X when I bought it in 2002, as IMO kinda blended slightly the typical Def Leppard sound with the experimentational Sl@ng sound.

Sl@ng also had a much more laid-back sound and the songwriting was the best I'd ever heard from the band instead of just the cheese-metal lyrics as from previous albums.

I hope when they release their next album (which I've heard is due sometime this year or next) that they do a similar album to Sl@ng and perhaps incorporate a more modern rock sound.

Dave 1986 03-12-2004 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jade4jovi
I love the song love and hate collide.. think its called that.. Thats such a great song! I found it up afew days ago and got excited, Put it on and it bloody screwed up and all the tape bit came out ARGGHH :mad:

If you're talking about the video then buy Vizualize/Video Archive on DVD cause it's on there 8)

Oh yea, along with Slang, this is the best song Def Leppard have ever released since Hysteria and is easily the greatest rock ballad ever! I love it :D

Bleeding Purist 03-12-2004 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by david2k86
Definately Sl@ng!

It's a damn shame how underrated it was both with critics and Def Leppard fans. I liked the way they were going with Sl@ng and wish they continued with a similar formula from then on, instead of taking a step back with Euphoria. (I've not heard it yet, but aparently it is typical Def Leppard)

However I was impressed with X when I bought it in 2002, as IMO kinda blended slightly the typical Def Leppard sound with the experimentational Sl@ng sound.

Sl@ng also had a much more laid-back sound and the songwriting was the best I'd ever heard from the band instead of just the cheese-metal lyrics as from previous albums.

I hope when they release their next album (which I've heard is due sometime this year or next) that they do a similar album to Sl@ng and perhaps incorporate a more modern rock sound.

Don't skip out on Euphoria, you might be surprised. It's main problem is they borrow directly from past songs....but unlike Adrenalize..it's not a poor Hysteria sequel, they cover their entire history in this case, not one album. They are still fresh. The highlights for me are Day After Day, Paper Sun, and I Am Your Child. Day After Day borrows from Too Late for Love and Mirror Mirror, but it is original enough to stand on it's own and it's lyrics are total modern Leppard (ala Slang.) Paper Sun and I Am Your Child stand alone...they don't borrow from anything. Anyway, take it from a Slang fan that Euphoria is worth picking up. When it comes down to it I like the majority of the album.

I'd probably feel the same way about X as you do if it wasn't for a good chunk of the lyrics and some of the song titles (You're So Beautiful, Let Me Be The One, Girl Like You.) Also, the fact that two songs were completely written by outsiders bothered me. Covers are one thing..but brand new material? We know they haven't run dry creatively..so there really was no excuse and Long Long Way To Go is way overrated.

Iceman 03-12-2004 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist
Don't skip out on Euphoria, you might be surprised.

This I agree with, but

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The highlights for me are Day After Day, Paper Sun, and I Am Your Child.
This I don't. Those are possibly the worst tracks on the album. Guilty, Promises, Demolition Man and Goodbye are miles ahead any of those you mentioned.

Ice

Bleeding Purist 03-12-2004 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman
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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist
Don't skip out on Euphoria, you might be surprised.

This I agree with, but

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The highlights for me are Day After Day, Paper Sun, and I Am Your Child.
This I don't. Those are possibly the worst tracks on the album. Guilty, Promises, Demolition Man and Goodbye are miles ahead any of those you mentioned.

Ice

It's a matter of opinion..I like all of those mentioned...I give the worst track status to the overblown 21st Century Girl.

I prefer more substance in my songs which is why I list those three over those 4...but collectively they make up the better part of the album.

Javier 03-13-2004 02:52 AM

Vault. ahem wait ....Slang.

Iceman 03-13-2004 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist
It's a matter of opinion..I like all of those mentioned...I give the worst track status to the overblown 21st Century Girl.

I prefer more substance in my songs which is why I list those three over those 4...but collectively they make up the better part of the album.

Yep, it's a matter of opinion. I just don't think that the Leps were ever too good at makin "meaningful" tracks, like Paper Sun or White Lightning. All the nonsense stuff works better, like Demolition Man or Armageddon It. If I want to listen to darker Leppard, I listen to High'n'Dry or Pyromania.

Ice

Dave 1986 03-13-2004 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist
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Originally Posted by david2k86
Definately Sl@ng!

It's a damn shame how underrated it was both with critics and Def Leppard fans. I liked the way they were going with Sl@ng and wish they continued with a similar formula from then on, instead of taking a step back with Euphoria. (I've not heard it yet, but aparently it is typical Def Leppard)

However I was impressed with X when I bought it in 2002, as IMO kinda blended slightly the typical Def Leppard sound with the experimentational Sl@ng sound.

Sl@ng also had a much more laid-back sound and the songwriting was the best I'd ever heard from the band instead of just the cheese-metal lyrics as from previous albums.

I hope when they release their next album (which I've heard is due sometime this year or next) that they do a similar album to Sl@ng and perhaps incorporate a more modern rock sound.

Don't skip out on Euphoria, you might be surprised. It's main problem is they borrow directly from past songs....but unlike Adrenalize..it's not a poor Hysteria sequel, they cover their entire history in this case, not one album. They are still fresh. The highlights for me are Day After Day, Paper Sun, and I Am Your Child. Day After Day borrows from Too Late for Love and Mirror Mirror, but it is original enough to stand on it's own and it's lyrics are total modern Leppard (ala Slang.) Paper Sun and I Am Your Child stand alone...they don't borrow from anything. Anyway, take it from a Slang fan that Euphoria is worth picking up. When it comes down to it I like the majority of the album.

I'd probably feel the same way about X as you do if it wasn't for a good chunk of the lyrics and some of the song titles (You're So Beautiful, Let Me Be The One, Girl Like You.) Also, the fact that two songs were completely written by outsiders bothered me. Covers are one thing..but brand new material? We know they haven't run dry creatively..so there really was no excuse and Long Long Way To Go is way overrated.

I might buy Euphoria eventually if it is as good an album as people say it is. I'm also thinking of buying the 2 DVD's also, as they have pretty much every sinlge video (aside from the X period) included.


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