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Jim Bon Jovi 03-19-2004 01:50 AM

the net tightens?
 
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- The Pakistani military was preparing to launch a heavy air assault after sunrise Friday on al Qaeda troops believed to be protecting a "high-value" leader near the Afghanistan border, Pakistani sources told CNN.

Intelligence indicated the surrounded figure is Ayman al-Zawahiri, al Qaeda's No. 2 leader, two Pakistani government sources told CNN.

More than 200 well-trained and well-equipped al Qaeda fighters are trying to prevent al-Zawahiri's capture, an official in the intelligence services and another in the interior department said.

Government sources said 18 al Qaeda operatives and some tribesmen were captured two days ago, and the information they provided suggested al-Zawahiri was in the area.

Pakistani ground and air forces have "pounded" the area, which has a perimeter of 25 to 30 kilometers (12 to 15 miles), Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf told CNN. He did not name the al Qaeda figure believed to be surrounded.

The government sources said the military planned a heavy air assault at sunrise in hopes of preventing al-Zawahiri from escaping.

The sources said they were concerned the fighters could try to use the cover of darkness to flee across the border. While Pakistani forces are trying to seal off the area, they cannot not do so completely, the sources said.

The 52-year-old al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian national, is considered to be Osama bin Laden's closest adviser and is viewed by many analysts as the operational brains behind the al Qaeda terror network.

U.S. officials believe bin Laden may be within miles of al-Zawahiri.

Al-Zawahiri is one of the most-wanted terrorists in the United States. U.S. officials believe if he is captured, they could likely work out a deal with Pakistan to have him turned over to U.S. custody.

He was indicted along with bin Laden for his alleged role as mastermind of the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed 224 people.

U.S. government sources also believe he played a significant role in the September 11, 2001, attacks in Washington and New York.

National security adviser Condoleezza Rice said al-Zawahiri's capture would be a "major step forward," but she emphasized there is an entire network to break down, "not just one person."

U.S. officials said the United States was providing reconnaissance information to Pakistan, but they stressed it was a Pakistani operation.

The surveillance equipment included unmanned Predator aircraft armed with thermal cameras that can spot a person by their body heat.

White House communications director Dan Bartlett said he could not comment on whether there was U.S. involvement in the military operation.

Musharraf told CNN he believed a "high value" al Qaeda target may be surrounded.

It was the "fierce resistance" that troops encountered when they entered the area two days ago that led them to believe a top official with the terrorist network was being protected, he said.

"They are not coming out in spite of the fact that we pounded them with artillery," he said.

Asked if he believed bin Laden or al-Zawahiri was hiding there, Musharraf demurred.

"I'm not going to say that because my previous experience is whenever I say it, then headlines come that he says, 'Al-Zawahiri is there,' or something like this," he said.

The "pitched battle" has already claimed the lives of some Pakistani troops, he said. The fighters believed to be with al Qaeda were holed up in "mud forts," he said.

The area in south Waziristan consists of a series of compounds, the sources said.

One U.S. official who is in touch with Pakistani officials about the situation told CNN that Pakistani forces were "fighting like hell."

The military asked locals to leave, flew helicopters overhead and pounded the area with artillery, he said.

Word of the standoff came after Pakistan announced it had launched a fresh offensive against suspected militants near the Afghan border.


Hundreds of Pakistani troops backed by heavy artillery and helicopter gunships raided homes in the nation's tribal region of South Waziristan, two days after a fierce assault in the same area left dozens dead.

On Tuesday, at least 39 people were killed in a raid on suspected Taliban and al Qaeda militants in a fortress-like compound in Kaloosha, close to the border.

Fifteen soldiers died and Pakistani forces killed 24 suspects, most of them foreign fighters, military officials said. (Full story)

Intelligence officers were questioning 18 people captured during the raids.

In retaliation, angry tribesmen torched more than a dozen military vehicles -- some loaded with ammunition -- on Tuesday and Wednesday.

krisyluvsjovi 03-19-2004 04:40 AM

I was just watching The O'Reilly Factor and he said one of regulars on his show told him(off the air) that they believe Bin Laden's #2 is dead and are waiting for autopsy reports to confirm. He said it's not confirmed though. The man who told him was a general that frequents his show as a guest.who usually gives good insider info. O'Reilly says we will probably know by tomorrow if it's true or not. I hope it is. :?

Jovi2003 03-19-2004 04:56 AM

Mark my words people...Bin Laden will be caught by the election. Just in time to swing public favor George's way. I would be willing to bet money they know where he is or already have him and are waiting for the right time to reveal it.

krisyluvsjovi 03-19-2004 05:07 AM

I don't know if I think they allready have him,but I do believe he will be caught very soon. I just hope they get him. One thing the media seems to ignore is that they have still been searching for him even while the Irag war was going on-at least special forces have,according to some news report I saw a while ago. They probably have a good idea where he is-you can almost feel it,that it willhappen soon.

Jim Bon Jovi 03-19-2004 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jovi2003
Mark my words people...Bin Laden will be caught by the election. Just in time to swing public favor George's way. I would be willing to bet money they know where he is or already have him and are waiting for the right time to reveal it.

What if just by coincidence they happen to catch him in the run upto the election?

Not everything to do with all this is some pre planned move.

Either way, I don't care when ti is as long as the bastard is caught and it's beggars belief to think any other government wouldn't do the same.

Tashjbj 03-19-2004 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jovi2003
Mark my words people...Bin Laden will be caught by the election. Just in time to swing public favor George's way. I would be willing to bet money they know where he is or already have him and are waiting for the right time to reveal it.

Totally agree.

Marijke 03-19-2004 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jovi2003
Mark my words people...Bin Laden will be caught by the election. Just in time to swing public favor George's way. I would be willing to bet money they know where he is or already have him and are waiting for the right time to reveal it.

Indeed that will make Bush a real hero!

Mongoose 03-19-2004 03:40 PM

It shouldnt. It should make the men that captured him heroes, not some pen pushing chimp in washington. Bush should take no or very little credit for it.

Tashjbj 03-19-2004 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mongoose
It shouldnt. It should make the men that captured him heroes, not some pen pushing chimp in washington. Bush should take no or very little credit for it.

True, but we all know that won't happen.. :?

Adrian 03-19-2004 08:47 PM

I sincerely hope they catch these guys, and give them a fair trial. That'd be the ultimate victory. Trying the 9/11 suspects in the courts of the very city in which they committed their crime. But it'd have to be a fair trial.

Adrian


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