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Sorry if this has been done before, but I am very curious as to what you guys think.

Yup, been done before. :P

From the US, voting for Badnarik.

Adrian

i don't think there's any real difference between these two canditates at all but if i had to choose i'd choose kerry.

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

i don't think there's any real difference between these two canditates at all but if i had to choose i'd choose kerry.

I take it you haven't seen the debates or checked their plans on their web site. I don't blame you, I manage to watch news from European channels here and they don't dig deep enough at all on this event for people to be aware of the real big differences.
The differences are big enough to matter in about everything that's important when you're in the seat they're running for.

I voted for Kerry. I supported him before but imo the debates made it clear as can be that he can do a much better job than Bush. I particularly appreciated this statement answering how he handles criticism from Catholic archbishops for protecting the right for abortion :

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I believe that I can't legislate or transfer to another American citizen my article of faith. What is an article of faith for me is not something that I can legislate on somebody who doesn't share that article of faith.
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And as President Kennedy said when he ran for president, he said, "I'm not running to be a Catholic president. I'm running to be a president who happens to be Catholic."

Ponrauil

Amen, Bush was so full of religious bollocks last night I couldnt stop laughing..he truely thinks hes on some kind of god-given mission to save the world :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by ponrauil

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Originally Posted by ugly_queen_from_mars

i don't think there's any real difference between these two canditates at all but if i had to choose i'd choose kerry.

when it comes down to domestic politics there are differences. as for the foreign policy what i saw is that the two canditates actually agree by disagreeing. you know what i mean?
i haven't focused on their programmes about domestic politics so i can't be sure. but i have started 'studying' (i have a paper in uni) kerry's political programme about war, diplomacy, foreign policy etc. they seem that they both want the same thing but they disagree (not all the times) on the means. that's the way i see it right now.

Kerry can't afford to propose a totally different foreign policy. Even now the polls show Americans prefer Bush when it comes to Iraq and terrorism. So if Kerry said I'll consult UN before protecting our security interests, I'll withdraw from Iraq if I get elected, etc, that would surely be a political suicide.

Keep in mind that Kerry voted for going to war with Iraq, another reason why he just couldn't pull the troops out of there.

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce

Keep in mind that Kerry voted for going to war with Iraq, another reason why he just couldn't pull the troops out of there.

He voted for the war after being misled about it, like all Americans, by Bush.
Not because of intelligence, but because when Bush asked to be given the power to go to war, he promised he had a plan, that he'll go to war as a last resort and that he'll build a strong coallition, none of which he did.
Plus he never said he'd pull the troops out of Iraq on his first day as President, he said he'd bring more strong allies back to the table to be more efficient on the ground and build a strong and safe plan, that doesn't exist today with Bush, for the reconstruction of Iraq.
If things went along like in his plan, the troops would still be in Iraq for at least four years.

Ponrauil