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Martin 10-30-2004 12:45 PM

New Bin Laden Video...
 
hi there...
as you may have heard a video tape from osama bin laden has been aired at al-jazeera.... he said (more or less) that he plans further attacks on the US- apparently this video should influence the election result and i'm sure it will influence the result. the problem is only that it supports bush far more than kerry cause most of the US citizens are gonna say "bush invaded afghanistan after 911 and he proved to be a strong leader who haunts the terrorists down" and i honestly can understand that... there was once an article which said that al-quaeda needs bush as much as bush needs al-qaeda... guess what would have happened if there hadn't been al-qaeda, no 911, no "war against terrorism"... everybody, even the US citizens would have seen that bush is a morron and one of the species "homo" way back in evolution and that he should be taken for biological research rather than for the president seat :roll:

Dawn 10-30-2004 03:25 PM

I reckon the video will go against Bush as it poroves that with all of Bush's military forces they were still unable to track down the bin man ! Who I reckon is camped out in Pakistan. Bring Kerry on and give him a chance to wipe the whiskers from the bin mans head :mad:

Dawn

peter 10-30-2004 03:38 PM

I also think the video will help Bush.
Esp. when Kerry can't afford to say he will examine the roots of terrorism (US policy) and make some changes there.

It's also funny how this latest video makes Bin Laden look more ratinal than Bush or Kerry. He says he will only attack countries that attack him and Kerry for example keeps repeating the very pathetic line "we will hunt down, capture or kill terrorists". Hello, how can you keep saying you will killl someone and be liked for that?!?

Thomas Anderson 10-30-2004 05:09 PM

It could work either way. It could help Bush because he could say that they shouldn't change leader when there is still such a threat to the world, and it will work for Kerry in the way he can question why Bush didn't already find Bin Laden.

Adrian 10-30-2004 05:16 PM

Well, now we finally know for sure that it was bin Laden who was behind the 9/11 attacks. I was always doubtful, and now he's admitted it.

Adrian

Jim Bon Jovi 10-30-2004 06:13 PM

he's said he doesn;t care wether it's Bush or Kerry who wins he'll still attack.

i just wish they'd be honest and say it's because we're white Westener infidels and not spout bollocks about foreign policy.

spunkywho 10-30-2004 07:19 PM

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everybody, even the US citizens would have seen that bush is a morron
love that.


I am afraid it will help Bush more than Kerry, as people will say 'oh he is threatening us again - we will not be bullied by terrorists - we'll show you taht we can't be bullied and vote Bush into office' --- of course, my theory in all this is that this is Bush's own publicity stunt as I believe he and the Bin Laden family to be personal family friends anyway :) making money off each other and thus truly needing each other. "You help me get away, I help you with another term........."

Martin 10-30-2004 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spunkywho
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everybody, even the US citizens would have seen that bush is a morron
love that.

i wrote that very quickly and when i re-read what i had written it also occurred to me that it sounds a bit strange- it's not to be taken (too) seriously :lol:

i honestly don't think that the 250.000.000 american citizens are all idiots- over here we just get the idiots on tv and in the newspapers all the time cause it's boring to see normality so nobody would care about it- and bringing stupid americans onto the screen is more reasonable than showing stupid europeans (including austrians) cause otherwise we'd see how much morrons we have living next door to us (or how much of idiots we are ourselves)... so we laugh about you guys thinking that we're better and everybody's happy :wink:

peter 10-30-2004 08:19 PM

Here's the transcript:

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You, the American people, I talk to you today about the best way to avoid another catastrophe and about war, its reasons and its consequences.

And in that regard, I say to you that security is an important pillar of human life, and that free people do not compromise their security.

Contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims -- that we hate freedom --let him tell us then, "Why did we not attack Sweden?" It is known that those who hate freedom don't have souls with integrity, like the souls of those 19. May the mercy of God be upon them.

We fought with you because we are free, and we don't put up with transgressions. We want to reclaim our nation. As you spoil our security, we will do so to you.

I wonder about you. Although we are ushering the fourth year after 9/11, Bush is still exercising confusion and misleading you and not telling you the true reason. Therefore, the motivations are still there for what happened to be repeated.

And I will talk to you about the reason for those events, and I will be honest with you about the moments the decision was made so that you can ponder. And I tell you, God only knows, that we never had the intentions to destroy the towers.

But after the injustice was so much and we saw transgressions and the coalition between Americans and the Israelis against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it occurred to my mind that we deal with the towers. And these special events that directly and personally affected me go back to 1982 and what happened when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. And assistance was given by the American sixth fleet.

During those crucial moments, my mind was thinking about many things that are hard to describe. But they produced a feeling to refuse and reject injustice, and I had determination to punish the transgressors.

And as I was looking at those towers that were destroyed in Lebanon, it occurred to me that we have to punish the transgressor with the same -- and that we had to destroy the towers in America so that they taste what we tasted, and they stop killing our women and children.

We found no difficulties in dealing with the Bush administration, because of the similarities of that administration and the regimes in our countries, half of which are run by the military and half of which are run by monarchs. And our experience is vast with them.

And those two kinds are full of arrogance and taking money illegally.

The resemblance started when [former President George H.W.] Bush, the father, visited the area, when some of our own were impressed by America and were hoping that the visits would affect and influence our countries.

Then, what happened was that he was impressed by the monarchies and the military regimes, and he was jealous of them staying in power for tens of years, embezzling the public money without any accountability. And he moved the tyranny and suppression of freedom to his own country, and they called it the Patriot Act, under the disguise of fighting terrorism. And Bush, the father, found it good to install his children as governors and leaders.

We agreed with the leader of the group, Mohammed Atta, to perform all attacks within 20 minutes before [President George W.] Bush and his administration were aware of what was going on. And we never knew that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would leave 50,000 of his people in the two towers to face those events by themselves when they were in the most urgent need of their leader.

He was more interested in listening to the child's story about the goat rather than worry about what was happening to the towers. So, we had three times the time necessary to accomplish the events.

Your security is not in the hands of [Democratic presidential nominee John] Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands. Any nation that does not attack us will not be attacked.

Mousebounce 10-30-2004 11:31 PM

Of course they are over analyzing it on the news now. Some say it is a ploy to keep Bush in office while others say it is a ploy to get Bush out. Regardless, it will only help Bush in the end as Kerry's poll numbers regarding terrorism are quite low.


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