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UKjovi 11-09-2004 12:08 AM

How important
 
How important do you think it is to teach the younger generation about the world wars in respect of poppy or rememberance day which ever you like to call it?how long should we remember the wars? now? or untill the last serviving war veteran has died. Or do you think we should honour their sacrifice forever?

Kathleen 11-09-2004 12:22 AM

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
George Santayana

Kathleen

Living_on_my_Hair 11-09-2004 12:35 AM

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"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
George Santayana

indeed.

Get this. my girlfriend of 2+ yrs, i got talking about D-day etc and noticed a kind of lost look on her face.. it turns out she didnt know 1)what d day was 2)what year either world war was 3)leader of britain during the war 3)that the japanese were in the same war 4) that other countries contributed to the war

:shock: :shock: i could not believe it. i was actually very annoyed.. and her older sister (shes 23) didnt know either (she got the dates right and knew d-day was ''saving private ryan'') my girlfriendss 19 and studying LAW at Uni :? :?

like come on man :?


ktf
andi

Thomas Anderson 11-09-2004 12:44 AM

How far back to go though? I mean there where wars hundreds of years ago, so do you think about them or just about ones that happened last century? I hear people complain when some don't know about the wars of the last century, do you know about wars in centuries gone by?

I'm not being desrespectful to anyone who fought in the 2 world wars, just I think it's rather unfair to just focus on those wars and those who died in them, and not others.

UKjovi 11-09-2004 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Living_on_my_Hair
Quote:

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
George Santayana

indeed.

Get this. my girlfriend of 2+ yrs, i got talking about D-day etc and noticed a kind of lost look on her face.. it turns out she didnt know 1)what d day was 2)what year either world war was 3)leader of britain during the war 3)that the japanese were in the same war 4) that other countries contributed to the war

:shock: :shock: i could not believe it. i was actually very annoyed.. and her older sister (shes 23) didnt know either (she got the dates right and knew d-day was ''saving private ryan'') my girlfriendss 19 and studying LAW at Uni :? :?

like come on man :?


ktf
andi

OMG how could you not know that? i'm sorry to put your girlfriend down but that is so sad and shows the decline in our education system especialy when it comes to history

Living_on_my_Hair 11-09-2004 01:04 AM

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OMG how could you not know that? i'm sorry to put your girlfriend down but that is so sad and shows the decline in our education system especialy when it comes to history
yeah its quite sad, but its not her fault. she never did history in school, and, lets me honest, alot of guys do and then watch their war films etc etc

mind you, she did think Joseph Stalin was the guitarist from The Who :?

and b4 anyone slams the love of my life, shes a straight A student studying Law.

Anyone ever find that some people can be very smart but suck at general knowledge?


ANYway, to get back on topic, i dont ever think that the sacrifices people make for freedom etc should ever be forgotten, i know its easy to but we wouldnt be where we are today if it wernt for the actions of these people.
id hate to think millions of people have died for nothing



ktf
andi

UKjovi 11-09-2004 01:18 AM

I'm not saying its her fault and not for one minute would i insult her . i personnaly agree with you that we should not forget the sacrifice that these people gave to give us the life we have now

*ºÇåptäîn¤Çrä§hº* 11-09-2004 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Anderson
How far back to go though? I mean there where wars hundreds of years ago, so do you think about them or just about ones that happened last century? I hear people complain when some don't know about the wars of the last century, do you know about wars in centuries gone by?

I'm not being desrespectful to anyone who fought in the 2 world wars, just I think it's rather unfair to just focus on those wars and those who died in them, and not others.

Well, there's a reason why the both wars are called 1st and 2nd WORLD war - because there were none before them! With their global involvement, their millions of deads and their unprecedented massive cruelty of mankind, with all that and much more, they are the symbols that each and every war is evil.
It's not about being unfair to victims in former wars, quite the contrary.

jenn1189 11-09-2004 03:18 AM

I think all students should have to learn about wars that were fought in the past. And not just the ones that pertain to their own country. I don't think they need to know every date of every battle by heart, but a good idea of what went on in the past to get the world where it is today would be nice. It's amazing what kids are not learning in school these days.

spunkywho 11-09-2004 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Living_on_my_Hair
mind you, she did think Joseph Stalin was the guitarist from The Who :?

and b4 anyone slams the love of my life, shes a straight A student studying Law.

Anyone ever find that some people can be very smart but suck at general knowledge?

I don't think that is the problem here. Certain historical dates aren't general knowledge - it is acquired knowledge. Knowing that you fall if you step off a roof might be general knowldedge. lol.

The fact that she is a straight A student studying law pretty much shows that she is doing a great job at learning and studying the material presented to her. Unfortunately, history has not been presented to her. Not her fault.

What I find outrageous is that history isn't a required class in your school system. It should go along with math, language, and science.

Of course this coming from someone who had history as mandatory class from elementary to high school and even at the university I had to take one history class (I could choose the timeframe or country I wanted to learn the history of, but it had to be a history class). I could never imagine someone going through school without history classes. Makes me appreciate my schooling even more :P


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Originally Posted by Thomas Anderson
How far back to go though? I mean there where wars hundreds of years ago, so do you think about them or just about ones that happened last century?

333 Issus Keilerei - ---- hehehehhehe ---- only date I remember :P (333 BC Alexander the Great - battle of Issus)

yes - all the way back ---- like I said, history class should be mandatory like math or language...


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