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Captain Walrus 02-12-2005 08:35 PM

Chinese Democracy
 
According to a little thing I picked up in HMV today, Chinese Democracy will be released on April 25th 2005. I also hear that Appetite may be being re-recorded

Kev 02-12-2005 08:45 PM

Guns n Roses??? :?

RyanBounce04 02-12-2005 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev
Guns n Roses??? :?

Oui...

Ryan

Supersonic 02-12-2005 09:02 PM

Re: Chinese Democracy
 
Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus
According to a little thing I picked up in HMV today, Chinese Democracy will be released on April 25th 2005. I also hear that Appetite may be being re-recorded

The April rumours are going strong. But there have been so many dates so far that I really don't believe this unless I've got it in my hands.

Appetite re-recorded has already been done a long time ago before the new GNR went on tour in 2002. I've heard their studio version from Sweet Child O' Mine, Axls vocals sound, well, different, and the guitar solo sucks.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Stut 02-12-2005 09:09 PM

I believe when I see it. Although the bass player, Tommy Stinson (sic?) had said that itīll be out this year and that they might come to Europe this summer.

Mousebounce 02-12-2005 11:11 PM

All we can do is hope, but I am not counting on anything at this point.

allmike 02-13-2005 12:06 PM

Is it with orginal line up?

Captain Walrus 02-13-2005 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by allmike
Is it with orginal line up?

Lol

Its with Axl, and God knows who else by this point

Supersonic 02-13-2005 02:23 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmike
Is it with orginal line up?

Nope, only Axl Rose and Dizzy Reed (the keyboardplayer they added on the Use Your Illusion Tour) are in the current line up.

Axl Rose [ Vocals, Guitar ]
Dizzy Reed [ Keyboards ]
Tommy Stinson [ Bass ]
Brain [ Drums ]
Robin Finck [ Guitar ]
Richard Fortus [ Guitar ] ++

Paul Tobias [ Guitar ] +
Buckethead [ Guitar ] !
Josh Freese [ Drums ] *

[ Notes: ]

+ = was not touring with GN'R in 2002. Status in band is unknown. Replaced by Richard Fortus.
++ = replaced Paul Tobias in GN'R. Has recorded guitar parts on the albums.
* = has left GN'R (Josh went on tour with A Perfect Circle). According to Axl, Josh will be on the album.
! = left the band in early 2004

Copied from www.heretodaygonetohell.com

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

DevilsSon 02-13-2005 03:13 PM

Well...I should make some bets again. As the last release day was announced I won 8 Iron maiden Cds....haha.

I don't believe it will come out. I don't even hope it will come out anymore. Axl is a wreck. He hasn't got any money and Buckethead ,who I consider a genius, left...

So...Good luck!

spunkywho 02-13-2005 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon
I don't believe it will come out. I don't even hope it will come out anymore. Axl is a wreck.

I'm with you there!

Arash 02-14-2005 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilsSon
Buckethead ,who I consider a genius, left...

I agree with you that he was a genius.

Supersonic 02-14-2005 10:06 AM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Arash
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Originally Posted by DevilsSon
Buckethead ,who I consider a genius, left...

I agree with you that he was a genius.

I'm not sure if I consider him a genius. Sure, the guy can play very, very fast, but from what I've heard it's all fast technical stuff and no emotion in his playing, which makes it a bit dull for me.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

DevilsSon 02-14-2005 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic
Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arash
Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilsSon
Buckethead ,who I consider a genius, left...

I agree with you that he was a genius.

I'm not sure if I consider him a genius. Sure, the guy can play very, very fast, but from what I've heard it's all fast technical stuff and no emotion in his playing, which makes it a bit dull for me.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

That means you haven't heard any whole album.

Do me a favour and buy COLMA which is my fave Buckethead album. He could give even Mark Knopfler feeling lessons...

Dave 1986 02-14-2005 03:58 PM

I'm not bothered at all if it ever gets released to be honest. And IF it does, I'd still be in no rush to buy it. All I could say is after a 10 year delay, it better be good. :?

Calyx 02-14-2005 05:25 PM

As much as I love the music that the original line up released 15 or so years ago, Im not really sold on this being a "Guns 'n Roses" album. I'll probably buy it out of curiosity but I can't really say Im anticipating it all that much.

With only Axl being the only remaining member of the original line up, this album is really just him expressing himself and using the GNR name to make money. I'm sure if he changed the band name then not as many people would care, but because it's "GNR", then people believe its going to be something special and buy it almost believing its the same band. Without the same guys writing these songs, then how can it possibly sound the same as the earlier material.

It's no different than Jon releasing his solo work under the "Bon Jovi" name. As much as I like Jon's solo work, it is the band (particuarly Richie) who contributes with the songwriting and together they created the songs that this band is famous for... Jon is a member of the band but he is not
"the" band...

I'm sure Axl will be able to come up with some decent, possibly even great songs, I just think a gimmick that he is using the name of a band that died years ago to get people to buy it.

Calyx 02-14-2005 05:25 PM

As much as I love the music that the original line up released 15 or so years ago, Im not really sold on this being a "Guns 'n Roses" album. I'll probably buy it out of curiosity but I can't really say Im anticipating it all that much.

With only Axl being the only remaining member of the original line up, this album is really just him expressing himself and using the GNR name to make money. I'm sure if he changed the band name then not as many people would care, but because it's "GNR", then people believe its going to be something special and buy it almost believing its the same band. Without the same guys writing these songs, then how can it possibly sound the same as the earlier material.

It's no different than Jon releasing his solo work under the "Bon Jovi" name. As much as I like Jon's solo work, it is the band (particuarly Richie) who contributes with the songwriting and together they created the songs that this band is famous for... Jon is a member of the band but he is not
"the" band...

I'm sure Axl will be able to come up with some decent, possibly even great songs, I just think a gimmick that he is using the name of a band that died years ago to get people to buy it.

Calyx 02-14-2005 05:25 PM

As much as I love the music that the original line up released 15 or so years ago, Im not really sold on this being a "Guns 'n Roses" album. I'll probably buy it out of curiosity but I can't really say Im anticipating it all that much.

With only Axl being the only remaining member of the original line up, this album is really just him expressing himself and using the GNR name to make money. I'm sure if he changed the band name then not as many people would care, but because it's "GNR", then people believe its going to be something special and buy it almost believing its the same band. Without the same guys writing these songs, then how can it possibly sound the same as the earlier material.

It's no different than Jon releasing his solo work under the "Bon Jovi" name. As much as I like Jon's solo work, it is the band (particuarly Richie) who contributes with the songwriting and together they created the songs that this band is famous for... Jon is a member of the band but he is not
"the" band...

I'm sure Axl will be able to come up with some decent, possibly even great songs, I just think a gimmick that he is using the name of a band that died years ago to get people to buy it.

allmike 02-14-2005 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic
Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmike
Is it with orginal line up?

Nope, only Axl Rose and Dizzy Reed (the keyboardplayer they added on the Use Your Illusion Tour) are in the current line up.

Axl Rose [ Vocals, Guitar ]
Dizzy Reed [ Keyboards ]
Tommy Stinson [ Bass ]
Brain [ Drums ]
Robin Finck [ Guitar ]
Richard Fortus [ Guitar ] ++

Paul Tobias [ Guitar ] +
Buckethead [ Guitar ] !
Josh Freese [ Drums ] *

[ Notes: ]

+ = was not touring with GN'R in 2002. Status in band is unknown. Replaced by Richard Fortus.
++ = replaced Paul Tobias in GN'R. Has recorded guitar parts on the albums.
* = has left GN'R (Josh went on tour with A Perfect Circle). According to Axl, Josh will be on the album.
! = left the band in early 2004

Copied from www.heretodaygonetohell.com

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Without Slash, they can't defnetly call it G'nR :?

Mousebounce 02-14-2005 11:59 PM

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Without Slash, they can't defnetly call it G'nR
It would be nice to have him, but they are still quite good without him. :D

Javier 02-15-2005 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce
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Without Slash, they can't defnetly call it G'nR
It would be nice to have him, but they are still quite good without him. :D

I wouldn't know. Axl f*ed up again and canceled almost an entire tour because he's just to self involved and lazy.

Supersonic 02-15-2005 10:57 AM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javier
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousebounce
Quote:


Without Slash, they can't defnetly call it G'nR
It would be nice to have him, but they are still quite good without him. :D

I wouldn't know. Axl f*ed up again and canceled almost an entire tour because he's just to self involved and lazy.

Axl didn't cancel the tour, the promoters did when Axl had a mental breakdown.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

SomethingToBelieveIn 02-17-2005 02:28 PM

anyone got a recent pic of axl? heheh im very curious to how he even looks..

Supersonic 02-17-2005 02:50 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomethingToBelieveIn
anyone got a recent pic of axl? heheh im very curious to how he even looks..

Axl Rose in 2003:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../Axl2003-5.jpg

Yes, he had some work done.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

SomethingToBelieveIn 02-17-2005 03:14 PM

thanks heaps for that

spunkywho 02-17-2005 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic
Yes, he had some work done.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

he was on one of those shows about the XX people with too much plastic surgery done - right behind Michael Jackson and Cher. Too bad, cause he wasn't really ugly before, now he is. :roll:

Alex 02-17-2005 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spunkywho
he was on one of those shows about the XX people with too much plastic surgery done - right behind Michael Jackson and Cher. Too bad, cause he wasn't really ugly before, now he is. :roll:

Yes, that's really too bad. :( Besides that; I can't take him seriously as a rock star anymore. Rock stars are supposed to look wasted and should not have some plastic surgery done.

Supersonic 02-17-2005 09:07 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkywho
he was on one of those shows about the XX people with too much plastic surgery done - right behind Michael Jackson and Cher. Too bad, cause he wasn't really ugly before, now he is. :roll:

Yes, that's really too bad. :( Besides that; I can't take him seriously as a rock star anymore. Rock stars are supposed to look wasted and should not have some plastic surgery done.

Too much plastic surgery? Are you sure?

Axl in 2002
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...end/axlick.jpg

:?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

spunkywho 02-17-2005 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic

Too much plastic surgery? Are you sure?

Axl in 2002
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...end/axlick.jpg

:?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

what's your point? you don't think he had any done? :?

PedrinhoSSM 02-17-2005 10:26 PM

I am waiting for that album for so long. :twisted:

Iceman 02-17-2005 10:55 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...end/axlick.jpg

"ooh, I'm mistel China-man! You want some lice with that? I lecold a new lecold! It's called 'Chinese Democlacy'! I lelease it when Mao lets me!"

Ice

spunkywho 02-17-2005 11:02 PM

LOL!

Supersonic 02-17-2005 11:20 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkywho
what's your point? you don't think he had any done? :?

No I was being sarcastic, and it's true that he had too many work done. That's why I posted that picture. Because he looks awful on there.

Quote:

"ooh, I'm mistel China-man! You want some lice with that? I lecold a new lecold! It's called 'Chinese Democlacy'! I lelease it when Mao lets me!"
:D

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Jovimimi 02-17-2005 11:29 PM

I am not seing that much change between 2002 and 2003 for Axel rose .; he doesn't have that much plastic surgery done in my opionion .. but he does not look that great ... he would say he didn't get older well ... and he looks fake thouygh i don 't see so much plastis surgery .. maybe something in the eyes .. his eyes look dead and his skin is awfully pale ....

spunkywho 02-17-2005 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jovimimi
I am not seing that much change between 2002 and 2003 for Axel rose .; he doesn't have that much plastic surgery done in my opionion ....


All the stuff he had done took longer than merely a year --- compare it to the real Axl from 88 or so.

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/000252.html

Jovimimi 02-18-2005 12:06 AM

ok I understand then why i didn't see anything it was DURING THE SURGERY PROCESS.. or maybe is it just the alcohool and rug process through the years than destrayed him that much ... he is kinda ugly and he wasn't at all in 1988 :shock:

Mousebounce 02-18-2005 02:18 AM

To be honest, it looks to me like he just had botox. I don't see that much of a difference. :? Plus, you would have to compare it to quite a few pictures rather than just one or two.

allmike 02-18-2005 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce
Quote:


Without Slash, they can't defnetly call it G'nR
It would be nice to have him, but they are still quite good without him. :D

But they can't call themself G'N R....

allmike 02-18-2005 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkywho
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovimimi
I am not seing that much change between 2002 and 2003 for Axel rose .; he doesn't have that much plastic surgery done in my opionion ....


All the stuff he had done took longer than merely a year --- compare it to the real Axl from 88 or so.

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/000252.html

New Axl got more girlish look :?

And anyone know why the hell he decided to spoil his look??

Mousebounce 02-18-2005 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmike
Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkywho
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovimimi
I am not seing that much change between 2002 and 2003 for Axel rose .; he doesn't have that much plastic surgery done in my opionion ....


All the stuff he had done took longer than merely a year --- compare it to the real Axl from 88 or so.

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/000252.html

New Axl got more girlish look :?

And anyone know why the hell he decided to spoil his look??

I suppose the same reason most people do, to look younger.


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