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danieldelavega 03-07-2006 07:35 PM

Nothing (Without You)
 
Do you think "Nothing" wouldīve been the next "Always"??? Lot of people think it could, is a good song with good lyrics. Too bad didnīt make it.

Captain_jovi 03-07-2006 08:01 PM

Definetely not. It's an okay song but nothing stellar, IMO.

Vax 03-07-2006 08:22 PM

I think Dirty Little Secret would play better on the radio.

But Nothing is a really good tune. No doubt about that.

SamboraQueen21 03-07-2006 09:39 PM

It is the only song out of the three that didn't make HAND that I actually like. I don't think it is anywhere near the league Always is in though. It will be interesting to see if Bo Bice releases it as a single.

Alphavictim 03-08-2006 12:35 AM

Nothing and Dirty Little Secret definitely should have made it on the record. Great songs. It's a bit more generic than Always, but then again, Always is among the best ballads of the band ever.

Rob 03-08-2006 02:15 AM

I would have put Nothing, DLS and Unbreakable on the record. I'd ship out Wildflower, Complicated and Last Cigarette.

Nothing and Unbreakable aren't outstanding but they are better that many of the album tracks, and I think DLS was actually good enough to make a good single and it puzzles me why it didn't at least make the album. Then again the last 3 albums have had good tracks missed off them. Crush was missing Nuerotica (perhaps Bon Jovi's rawest rock song ever) and Bounce was missing Standin', Alive, etc. There are quite a few good demos that were recroded for the last three albums but didn't make the cut. God knows why....?

Jonbonrocks 03-08-2006 03:06 AM

I agree with Rob - Nuerotica could have easily replaced Next 100 Years or Save The World.

I haven't heard Nothing (double negative, ha ha), but I think Dirty Little Secret could have replaced Wildflower.
I think the album would have been that much better with that song - These Open Arms has a bland chorus, and Unbreakable is a demo, nothing more - lol, because it is pretty embarassing at some points. But I like it, just not for the album.

Hopefully they'll release Nothing on a b-side or something, so I can hear it. Probably we'll just get IML live though.

Ha ha

Jonbonrocks 03-08-2006 03:11 AM

Oh yeah, I absolutely agree that DLS could have been a single. I've been trying to come up with a logical reason of why they wouldn't even put it on the album or release it as a single.

The only logical reason I can come up with is that singing it live, the notes in the pre-chorus, "I wanna come inside" and "I wanna feel alive"
would kill Jon vocally. I don't think he wants that burden.

Otherwise, I guess even though we all know it's a hit single, perhaps the band just doesn't like the song. I mean, it's hard to believe, but it is possible.

Oh, and since we all hate Wildflower, you know what that means - it'll probably be the next single. All About Lovin' You anyone?

Lol

RyanBounce04 03-08-2006 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonbonrocks
I agree with Rob - Nuerotica could have easily replaced Next 100 Years or Save The World.

Wow... I really can't believe that. Next 100 Years only has the best guitar solo since Dry County. She's A Mystery is A LOT worse than Next 100 Years.

Ryan

Jonbonrocks 03-08-2006 04:51 AM

Yeah, it has a good guitar solo, it's true, but the horns make it sound corny to me. It sounds like filler. I don't think she's a mystery is stellar or anything, but I don't mind the low-key vibe. Sort of peaceful, I think.

Save the world is pretty corny though. Not terrible, but could have been a demo

bj4ever 03-08-2006 06:06 AM

don't know if i am allowed to ask this here or not....so delete away if i'm not
but where can i find recent demos, the only one i heard is these open arms, thanks in advance for any help
and sorry for the post, if its not allowed
chao

Peter Mc 03-08-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbonrocks

Oh, and since we all hate Wildflower, you know what that means - it'll probably be the next single. All About Lovin' You anyone?

Lol

I like it and Bells Of Freedom (How will I ever live it down!!), it will never be a single though, not commercial enough. I agree that All About Lovin' You was terrible, Bounce should have been a single off that record.

Alphavictim 03-08-2006 11:09 PM

Next 100 Years is among my favourites from Crush. There are a lot of obvious fillers on the record - I Got The Girl and Save The World come to my mind immediately. With HAND, they probably should have dropped either Last Cigarette or SOML, because those two choruses are really very similar - I personally prefer LC's verses and SOML's chorus, which is why I'm not two crazy about any of the songs. I don't care about Wildflower, but at least it's different.

Wildflower 03-09-2006 08:03 PM

Nothing is a good song,i really like it...BUT Always is Always....
Wildflower as next single???NO WAY!!!!To me they should show to the world Last man standing...THAT WOULD BE GREAT!!!

Belle_of_Freedom 03-09-2006 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildflower
Nothing is a good song,i really like it...BUT Always is Always....
Wildflower as next single???NO WAY!!!!To me they should show to the world Last man standing...THAT WOULD BE GREAT!!!

I disagree. I think LMS sounds too Bon Jovi and wouldn't introduce new fans. It sounds like "Just Older" & "It's My Life" had a lovechild. I don't think this would work as a world wide single.

"Story of My Life" or, even though it sounds like a WB Show's theme, I REALLY like and think that, "Welcome to Wherever You Are" would do well.

But, I'm curious. Why do you think that LMS would be the next great single? I'm just not seeing it. I'm not saying any of this to be bitchy, I'm just not seeing it & if you can explain WHY, maybe it'll occur to me, is all. Thank you.

Captain_jovi 03-09-2006 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Belle_of_Freedom
I disagree. I think LMS sounds too Bon Jovi and wouldn't introduce new fans. It sounds like "Just Older" & "It's My Life" had a lovechild. I don't think this would work as a world wide single.

"Story of My Life" or, even though it sounds like a WB Show's theme, I REALLY like and think that, "Welcome to Wherever You Are" would do well.

But, I'm curious. Why do you think that LMS would be the next great single? I'm just not seeing it. I'm not saying any of this to be bitchy, I'm just not seeing it & if you can explain WHY, maybe it'll occur to me, is all. Thank you.

hmmm. I've never heard anyone compare it to Just Older. To me it sounds nothing like either of those two. To me, I think it'd be a different choice for them to release just because it rocks really hard. The tempo is so fast, way faster than anything they've released recently. I dno.

Belle_of_Freedom 03-09-2006 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
hmmm. I've never heard anyone compare it to Just Older. To me it sounds nothing like either of those two. To me, I think it'd be a different choice for them to release just because it rocks really hard. The tempo is so fast, way faster than anything they've released recently. I dno.

Okay. I can see that. It's just that the lyrics are so....I'm not a fan of the lyrics, but, I never thought of the actual tempo. That's what I was going by, though, the lyrics. Both "Older" & LMS are all, I'M GETTING, and, granted, we don't see things as they are but as we are, 'We've been around for a while and we're good'. That's the message I get from both.

Alphavictim 03-09-2006 09:45 PM

Last Man Standing is about Bob Dylan.

romy 03-09-2006 11:05 PM

definitely several bonus tracks should have been on common playlist - DLS, unbreakable

Nothink is great but donīt think it would have a chance to become such a hit as always :???:

Rob 03-10-2006 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonbonrocks
Yeah, it has a good guitar solo, it's true, but the horns make it sound corny to me. It sounds like filler. I don't think she's a mystery is stellar or anything, but I don't mind the low-key vibe. Sort of peaceful, I think.

Save the world is pretty corny though. Not terrible, but could have been a demo

I wouldn't drop Next 100 Years. I'd take out She's a Mystery before anything else, then Save the World and Mystery Train. I think Next 100 Years is a decent album track.

Wildflower 03-10-2006 10:56 PM

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But, I'm curious. Why do you think that LMS would be the next great single? I'm just not seeing it. I'm not saying any of this to be bitchy, I'm just not seeing it & if you can explain WHY, maybe it'll occur to me, is all. Thank you.
Ok,i'll try to explain myself.
Last Man Standing it's a ROCK song,the tempo is so fast and the lyric is more than just amazing.People is complaining all the time that BJ are realising always the same kind of songs (It's my life,Everyday and Have a nice day)and that's a completely different kind of song and of message.It's about a generation of musicians that are slowly fading away...well,at these days,i think we can count REAL musician on the top of one hand.....It's against that new generations of "singers" that are everywhere and that suck!
It's great,i mean....have you ever heard Jon talk about it???You probably would understand a lot of things....

aerosmith_bonjovi 03-11-2006 01:25 PM

So was Nothing (Without You) one of the bonus tracks for HAND?

bjcrazycpa 03-11-2006 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aerosmith_bonjovi
So was Nothing (Without You) one of the bonus tracks for HAND?

No it was not.

deb

aerosmith_bonjovi 03-11-2006 01:49 PM

Is it just an unreleased song then? I've never heard of it before.

Solid Sambora 03-11-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbonrocks
Oh, and since we all hate Wildflower, you know what that means - it'll probably be the next single. All About Lovin' You anyone?

Am I the only one who likes Wildflower? It's really grown on me, reminds me of my girl.

It's interesting reading others views on the Crush tracks, it's an album I really enjoy listening to just now, even more so than when it was released. Personally, I love I Got The Girl but I know quite a few people who don't, and I think Next 100 Years and Mystery Train are great. I agree about She's A Mystery, I would drop that, but perhaps more controversially, I would consider dropping One Wild Night and Say It Isn't So - any backers?

Solid Sambora 03-11-2006 02:45 PM

I haven't heard Nothing, just like I've never heard Neurotica (which I really want to). Were they bonus tracks in different countries?

Sambo-Chris 03-11-2006 03:08 PM

Neurotica is on the Japanese Crush-CD. Nothing is not published, at least not by BJ. It is published by Bo Bice though.

aerosmith_bonjovi 03-11-2006 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sambo-Chris
Neurotica is on the Japanese Crush-CD. Nothing is not published, at least not by BJ. It is published by Bo Bice though.

Does this mean that Bon Jovi don't actually sing Nothing Without You? They just wrote it?

Stut 03-11-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aerosmith_bonjovi
Does this mean that Bon Jovi don't actually sing Nothing Without You? They just wrote it?

Yes. Thereīs Bon Jovi song called Nothing and Bo Bice song Nothing Without You. Different lyrics here and there.

Alphavictim 03-11-2006 04:27 PM

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Last Man Standing it's a ROCK song,the tempo is so fast and the lyric is more than just amazing.
I can't wait until Ice finds this one. Anyway, how is LMS a fast song? It's midtempo. "Rats In The Cellar" by Aerosmith is a fast song, or Motorbreath by Metallica, but not Last Man Standing.

Sambo-Chris 03-11-2006 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Stut
Yes. Thereīs Bon Jovi song called Nothing and Bo Bice song Nothing Without You. Different lyrics here and there.

The Bon Jovi song Nothing is not published officially. It has seen the public in an illegal way though, it is floating around. But not on a CD.

bjcrazycpa 03-11-2006 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Sambora
Am I the only one who likes Wildflower? It's really grown on me, reminds me of my girl.

Nope you are not the only one. I think Wildflower is a great song. I love it.

deb

Adam D 03-12-2006 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim
I can't wait until Ice finds this one. Anyway, how is LMS a fast song? It's midtempo. "Rats In The Cellar" by Aerosmith is a fast song, or Motorbreath by Metallica, but not Last Man Standing.

Let Ice find this one, just so he can tell everyone (for the hundredth time) how dumb we are for liking Jovi's newer records. Been there, done that.

LMS IS a fast song tempo-wise compared to the majority of stuff on the last two records. It's a ROCK song through and through and without the "gonna live my life" lyrics that we have all grown tired of. I believe the original poster was comparng LMS aganist Jovi's recent works, not to a 70's song by Aerosmith or an 80's song by a hard rock band called Metallica.

Captain Walrus 03-12-2006 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JBJEveryday
Let Ice find this one, just so he can tell everyone (for the hundredth time) how dumb we are for liking Jovi's newer records. Been there, done that.

LMS IS a fast song tempo-wise compared to the majority of stuff on the last two records. It's a ROCK song through and through and without the "gonna live my life" lyrics that we have all grown tired of. I believe the original poster was comparng LMS aganist Jovi's recent works, not to a 70's song by Aerosmith or an 80's song by a hard rock band called Metallica.

A metal band called Metallica ... the clue is in the first 5 letters of their name

Adam D 03-12-2006 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus
A metal band called Metallica ... the clue is in the first 5 letters of their name

Very true but that just further illustrates my point. You cannot compare the tempo of LMS to Motorbreath considering they are in two completley different styles of music. I don't recall Jovi EVER being as hard as Metallica.

Wildflower 03-12-2006 10:49 PM

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Am I the only one who likes Wildflower? It's really grown on me, reminds me of my girl.
No,you're not the only one.....take a look at my nick ;)
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I can't wait until Ice finds this one
Why???what's wrong this time???at this point i think that this guy really hates me!everytime i write something to him i've said the dumbest thing on earth!UFF!!!

Captain Walrus 03-12-2006 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildflower
Why???what's wrong this time???at this point i think that this guy really hates me!everytime i write something to him i've said the dumbest thing on earth!UFF!!!

It's really not just you ...

Wildflower 03-13-2006 06:13 PM

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Anyway, how is LMS a fast song? It's midtempo
Yes,maybe you're right...but i'm used to compare it with the first version which was REALLY slow!


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