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kjfoxx2k 03-22-2006 08:53 PM

When was the last time...
 
Yeah, quick question for curiosity's sake. When was the last time BJ ever played anything from their first two albums, OTHER than Runaway? (and apparently Tokyo Road is common in Japan, someone said once). My guess is they probably were able to stop playing their old stuff circa KTF?

Does Jon really hate his old stuff that much or can he just not sing it anymore? Listening to their first two albums, there's still a few songs on their that fit within his 'new' vocal parameters... Shot Through the Heart (that would be a suprise to everybody expecting 'YGLABN',) She Don't Know Me (who cares if Jon didn't write it? he's worked with outside writers since day 1), In and Out of Love (he's GOT to still bust this out every now and then, right?), Only Lonely... SILENT NIGHT... have any of these been performed since like... 1993 or so?

I'm just curious and I figure some of the diehards here would know.

KJ

Captain_jovi 03-22-2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kjfoxx2k
Yeah, quick question for curiosity's sake. When was the last time BJ ever played anything from their first two albums, OTHER than Runaway? (and apparently Tokyo Road is common in Japan, someone said once). My guess is they probably were able to stop playing their old stuff circa KTF?

Does Jon really hate his old stuff that much or can he just not sing it anymore? Listening to their first two albums, there's still a few songs on their that fit within his 'new' vocal parameters... Shot Through the Heart (that would be a suprise to everybody expecting 'YGLABN',) She Don't Know Me (who cares if Jon didn't write it? he's worked with outside writers since day 1), In and Out of Love (he's GOT to still bust this out every now and then, right?), Only Lonely... SILENT NIGHT... have any of these been performed since like... 1993 or so?

I'm just curious and I figure some of the diehards here would know.

KJ

Worked with outside writers, sure. But She don't know me is the only song to be COMPLETELY written by someone else. For this reason alone, they vow to never play it live.

kjfoxx2k 03-22-2006 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
Worked with outside writers, sure. But She don't know me is the only song to be COMPLETELY written by someone else. For this reason alone, they vow to never play it live.

Neither was Treat Her Right, Shout, Peace Love and Understanding, Won't Back Don't, Drift Away, Sympathy for the Devil, etc etc etc... i know none of these songs were on their albums but that's just a little anal... especially considering that a couple songs on These Days sound like Desmond Child's 1992 Aerosmith outtakes that Jon and Ritchie tweaked a little (Referring to Damned, Hearts Breaking Even, .... songs i LOVE, btw, but the sonic and structural similarity is rather uncanny to songs like 'Crying' and 'Crazy')

KJ

Bongo VII 03-22-2006 09:23 PM

when I perfect my mind control techniques they're going to start using "Shot Through the Heart" as an intro to "Bad Name"

Captain_jovi 03-22-2006 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kjfoxx2k
Neither was Treat Her Right, Shout, Peace Love and Understanding, Won't Back Don't, Drift Away, Sympathy for the Devil, etc etc etc... i know none of these songs were on their albums but that's just a little anal... especially considering that a couple songs on These Days sound like Desmond Child's 1992 Aerosmith outtakes that Jon and Ritchie tweaked a little (Referring to Damned, Hearts Breaking Even, .... songs i LOVE, btw, but the sonic and structural similarity is rather uncanny to songs like 'Crying' and 'Crazy')

KJ

Eh that's pushing it a bit far. Those are cover songs that had NOTHING to do with the band, hence them playing it. The record company never forced them to put those songs on the record. The band just isn't fond of the first two records is all it is.

Mike 03-22-2006 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
Worked with outside writers, sure. But She don't know me is the only song to be COMPLETELY written by someone else. For this reason alone, they vow to never play it live.

They used to play it live however

Captain_jovi 03-22-2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
They used to play it live however

They did in the early days, yah, when they didn't have enough material to choose from. Im sure as soon as they had enough songs to pick from, that was the first one to get the boot, heh.

Bleeding Purist 03-22-2006 11:48 PM

Besides Tokyo Road and Runaway, none of the songs from the first two albums have been played since the Jersey Syndicate tour. In and Out of Love, Tokyo Road, Breakout and Silent Night had slots in the setlist on the Slippery tour. Silent Night was replaced by Never Say Goodbye during the first part of the tour.

Alphavictim 03-22-2006 11:53 PM

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especially considering that a couple songs on These Days sound like Desmond Child's 1992 Aerosmith outtakes that Jon and Ritchie tweaked a little (Referring to Damned, Hearts Breaking Even, .... songs i LOVE, btw, but the sonic and structural similarity is rather uncanny to songs like 'Crying' and 'Crazy')
Desmond had no hand in writing Cryin', so that's pretty unlikely.

Jonbonrocks 03-23-2006 06:53 AM

Anyone notice that the instrumentation in These Open Arms from HAND sounds like Hole in My Soul?


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