Hey, put up a "draft" version of my solo, by no means perfect, no backing track just yet, and fluffed a few bits here and there, ending wasn't gr8 as fingers were a wee bit tierd after playin all nite lol! Appreciate any inputs u guys have, only learnt it tonight.

http://www.putfile.com/stef147

not bad for a rough draft . ill try and post my pathetic lame disabled attempt tomorra

btw who has signed your guitar plates and how did u get them signed?

That was at a g3 concert where i got backstage passes, the js1000 is signed by joe satriani, steve vai, billy sheehan, tony macalpine, dave weiner, jeramy colson , was a pretty cool experience meetin all those guys, and glad i brought my guitar with me! :)

o yeh those G3 concerts looked amazing

Good show, but not a patch on seeing either joe satriani or steve vai play a whole gig by themselves! I guess that was down to having robert fripp as the 3rd guitarist, v boring, he sat on a stool in the corner when it came to the g3 jam!

o well

i like watching som of the shows on youtube but i dont think id attend an actual G3 gig

i would get bored

Hi guys, ive put up my final never say goodbye entry "nsg2" and completely of topic i recorded one of my favourite solos, crazy train by randy rhoads its not a bad shot at it although like most of my playing i seem to do better when im not being recorded.

www.putfile.com/andymarshal

Let me know what you think

at last we're getting this "contest" of the ground. some good attempts coming in, shame you still have a freaky hand gaz. from the sounds of it, amputation is your only option. :)

I'm liking the randy solo aswell, for some reason i can't get my head round randy's solo's. they just don't seem to stick in my head. its the same with metallica solo's. i guess there's a lot of speed in them and i'm not quite fast enough yet. i can only really play solo's that i can hum back to myself. but i'm getting faster by the day. i'm trying to stay one step ahead of the game here, i know song's like wild in the streets, KTF and bad medicine are gonna come up at some point so im trying to brush up on the harder richie solos. please give plenty of notice if we're gonna do things like next 100 years, dry county end solo etc...i'll need to learn them from scratch

Hi, thanks for that to build up speed its just a case of practice, practice and more practice. I use crazy train as like a warmup lick to get my hands going, its a decent recording but i have done better in the past but as i said its usually when im not recording.

Andy

Oh, andy ash, i like your bed of roses attempt one little pointer i would give like a few other attempts is vibrato technique. Im not critisising (sp) anyone but i think the following may help peoples playing:

To me this is the way to tell a good guitarist. im not sure if you are using your fingers but i find it better to use the wrist, also by using your wrist i find it helps to keep your hand in the right place on the back of the neck. Try to rock your wrist back and forth with a little practice this should give you beter results.

As i said shakey vibrato is not good and im only trying to help.

Andy

So how hard is it to build custom guitars with stuff from Warmoth / Ebay?

It can be as easy or as difficult as you wanna make it. You can buy pickups on ebay that are already soldered to pots so all you'd have to do is wire it up to the output jack, you can get neck's that already have the machine heads fitted so no drilling needed there. just make sure you know your measurements. if you're looking to make a strat style guitar, the neck has to fit in the neck pocket as tightly as possible or else the strings aren't gonna line up porperly and could come off the fretboard when you're playing. it also affects how well the guitar resonates.

If you're not after anything special then i'd try and get everything from ebay,because warmoth can get expensive. if you can't find anything on ebay that you need then look at www.axesrus.co.uk or www.highlystrung.co.uk these have loads of parts, especially axesrus, they have everything from pickguard screws upto mid boost circuits and they do free postage.

in which part did you think the vibrato was shakey? you've got me all self conscious now. i thought i had pretty good vibrato technique, i'm not really fussed which way i do it, fingers, wrist or even the trem bar.

no way is anyone sticking things in my hand lol

ill try and upload o few licks to show you how much i can play and how resticted my playing is at the mo

ill do it now actually itll only take 2 mins

ermm crazy train intro and detroit rock city im thinkin bout

notin too strenous

stick around ill be back in 10 mins promise lol

Mate it wasnt really directed at just you but a couple of others as wel its mainly the e and a strings at the beinning. And definately use your wrist for the best effect.

Andy

oh i know which notes you mean. if anything, i thought my very last note in BOR dies out so it needed more vibrato.

heres where im up to with my hand, not perfect i know still cant hold the plec properly

http://media.putfile.com/mix-81

o and i will be posting the full detroit rock city in a min when my hand stops cramping

so stay tuned lol

just uploading my bor solo final entry as we speak so check out www.putfile.com/andymarshal. Unfornately still no mixer so just hum the backing.

Andy

gaz yours dont work

you have to donwload something so you can watch gaz's stuff.

nice playing from both of you.

andy did you get the backing track i sent you for BOR?

Ok guys, got a new version of NSG solo with a backing track, i can never get it perfect tho when i'm recording! ending was especially dodgy in this one imo. Welcome ur inputs!

http://www.putfile.com/stef147

my playing sucked on that vid

to veiw my video you have to install quicktime from download.com

ITS FREE!!! lol

Hi mate, dont put yourself down too much you are nearly there. I would avoid the tremelo dips and just play normally until you can master it then introduce the trem use.

andy

Thanks for the compliment, i did get the track but im waiting to get an alesis usb8 an 8 track usb mixer until then i have to go solo only im afraid. Still there is no hiding behind a backing track so maybe its a good thing.

Anyway some good news to make this competition a little more exciting, the store i use for string pickups effects and basically most of my music gear is www.themusicking.co.uk and ive grown quite a friendship with the owner and i was telling him about this competition and convinced him to give us some free stuff to who he thinks did the best playing of the solo. Its up to him to judge it (dont worry he wont be biased).

So the first thing for the bed of roses competiton will be a set of dunlop guitar strings and a mystery gift to who he thinks did the best shot. All he asks is you check by his website before you buy any music gear and mention him to your muso friends. Seems fair to me.

How do you feel about this?

Andy

just downloaded quicktime and gaz's still dont work :sad:

Cheers m8, the trem dips are prob the most difficult part imo tho, well 4 me newyas, getting them slightly wrong makes it sound horrible. The ending def needs a bit of work, i think i play it a wee bit different to what i seen u guys posting, its basically the same , but the trills on the 13's and 15's there are a few 17's thrown in, which make it a bit trickier.

damn


heal hand heal

wheres uri geller when you need him!!!!!!!!

i think next time we should play a different song other than jovi ones cos im a bit bored ofthem now lol

maybe something inthe same genre just a bit different

kiss, leppard. crue, poison etc?

anyone else?

isn't that sort of the point on being on a jovi forum, nothing stopping us adding other solos on to putfile just for people to listen to and comment.

point andy.

i dont even listen to anything similar to bon jovi from the 80s never mind know any solos.

that's wicked. i'm not really a competitive person but if there's freebies to be had, then this is war.(friendly war obviously)

that's a good attempt man. not sure about the trem dips at the start of the solo though, doesn't sound right to me.

i've tried doing the dips in my attempt but it was on a strat and my trem isn't really set up to dip easily so it sounds a bit of in parts.

Hey, yeah, didn't get them quite right, they are def there although richie doesn't seem to do them live all the time, its getting them just right tho and ur right, they were a bit off in that attempt, it sounds like a pretty easy solo until u actually sit down and play it, u realise, ahwait a minute, u dnt happen to have a backing track to BOR as well, or know anywhere onlie that u cangrab some backing tracks. Ur solo sounds pretty good! Not criticising but to make it 100% perfect, add the art. harmonic at the start i'm not sure but the bends on the 5th fret g string after the first wee part and the 21st on the e i think have 1 less string bend than on ur solo, we all hear different things i guess in each person's solos, will be recording a new version pretty soon , hopefully with better recording than the 1st time. :)

i thought the dips in the 2nd part of the solo were great, i just can't really hear them in the first section on the the orginal version. i can e-mail you the backing to BOR tonight. do you just want the backing for the solo or the entire track?

Yeah i know i added in a extra bend here an there when i recorded it. i was doing it from memory. i was thinking about re-recording it with the correct bends.

The bit for the solo will do well, cheers. I think the dips are there, mb not just as pronounced tho and it is pretty hard to clearly hear them, but there is def something going on for by just playin it imo.

As for the bends, i tended to stick extra ones in at the start as well, just seems more natural i guess.

im gettin pissed off cos i wanna play and then when i try i make things ten time worse

it's not as if this is gonna be a short thing is it so just give it time gaz. did you go see a doc?

i've re-done my nsg solo, i.m really happy with this version(without the extra bends). a bit pissed off though cos it all goes well until the very last note. but stil i don't think it's too bad.

here's the link
http://media.putfile.com/never-say-goodbye-78

Good job m8, sounding better again! wouldn't worry too much bout that last note bit, sounds ok. cheers 4 the backing track to BOR

not a problem, thanks for the compliment. still not 100% accurate though. from all the efforts i've heard yours is probably closest to the original, i.e. the dips at the beginning ( i can hear them now) and in the middle.