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gazthomas 10-05-2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by andy_ash
right, i will have mine up tonight. I have recorded the acoustic part and i'll record the solo tonight. i've come to 2 conclusions whilst recording this, 1.I am incredibly rusty at playing wanted and 2. i ****in hate playing 12 string guitars.

lmao im only using my 6 string

Jim Bon Jovi 10-05-2006 07:38 PM

my parents are away on holiday so ive basically been a walking disaster area all week and havent been in the house all week or made it to uni once so layign down wanted has been pushed back a bit but if i can get somethign together tomorrow or sunday ill do it.

andy_ash 10-05-2006 07:55 PM

it's so much easier with a 6 string. With the 12 string you can have played the intro perfectly right until the end and then you don't catch one of the strings and it just sounds horrid because it hasn't got the octave note (sorry can't think of the technical term for it). that pisses me off so much and i just get really frustrated, then i start to play like shit.
Although, when played properly it sounds much better on the 12 string than a 6.

Jim Bon Jovi 10-05-2006 08:02 PM

i was actually thinking of looking into 12 string acoustics on the bus home today. maybe an electro acoustic for doing tom petty and cure stuff live but is it a real pain in the arse?

what do you do for strings too? im assuming you get 12 string packs but i cant ever remember seeing any....

im thinking about picking up my mandolin again and learning how to play that properly.

gazthomas 10-05-2006 08:16 PM

i was lookin into gettin a 12 string the other month bu thought about it a bit more and realised id only use it live for maybe 2-3 songs so there was no point

andy_ash 10-05-2006 08:35 PM

i buy packs of martin 12 strings, they cost about £8-9 a pack. they are funny things to get used to but i guess it just takes time. i've tried plenty of them in my time and i have to say that the easiest one to play was a £70 Stagg from ebay. the action was superb. it was the first 12 string i'd played and the first time i picked it up i played wanted spot on. for £70 quid you can't go wrong. ok it's a stagg but the tone was decent and playabilty was amazing straight out of the box. money well spent. i would love to try a martin,guild or taylor 12 string, i think they'd be awesome.

gazthomas 10-05-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by andy_ash
i buy packs of martin 12 strings, they cost about £8-9 a pack. they are funny things to get used to but i guess it just takes time. i've tried plenty of them in my time and i have to say that the easiest one to play was a £70 Stagg from ebay. the action was superb. it was the first 12 string i'd played and the first time i picked it up i played wanted spot on. for £70 quid you can't go wrong. ok it's a stagg but the tone was decent and playabilty was amazing straight out of the box. money well spent. i would love to try a martin,guild or taylor 12 string, i think they'd be awesome.

i think the martin one would be best

i still want a 12 string just want a new tele alot more

sstefazy 10-06-2006 12:56 AM

Hey guys, just strated working on the dry county solo tonight, here is my 1st attempt, start is very dodgy, as is the end, and i know some bits are not right in between, but its a good base i think. Tell me wot u think. Cheers.

gazthomas 10-06-2006 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sstefazy
Hey guys, just strated working on the dry county solo tonight, here is my 1st attempt, start is very dodgy, as is the end, and i know some bits are not right in between, but its a good base i think. Tell me wot u think. Cheers.

link ??????????

sstefazy 10-06-2006 01:10 AM

Ah yes, http://www.putfile.com/stef147

andy_ash 10-06-2006 02:57 AM

it would sound better against a backing track, if you're not in a rish then i'll be able to sort one out for you when i get back from holiday (next sun). some parts were good but some were a bit dodgy. i'm not sure what you're playing in the middle of the 2nd solo, when it goes down to the 3rd/5th fret but the tremolo picking bit after that sounds better if you play it as octaves. but obviously it's upto you.

Here's my attempt at wanted, sorry it's a bit rough, i've just not really had the time to do a great job. i've also added a pic of my baby aswell. let me know what you think
http://www.putfile.com/andyash1

sstefazy 10-06-2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by andy_ash
it would sound better against a backing track, if you're not in a rish then i'll be able to sort one out for you when i get back from holiday (next sun). some parts were good but some were a bit dodgy. i'm not sure what you're playing in the middle of the 2nd solo, when it goes down to the 3rd/5th fret but the tremolo picking bit after that sounds better if you play it as octaves. but obviously it's upto you.

Here's my attempt at wanted, sorry it's a bit rough, i've just not really had the time to do a great job. i've also added a pic of my baby aswell. let me know what you think
http://www.putfile.com/andyash1

Sounds really good, intro seems a bit off tho, the acoustic bit, sounds if there are a few lower notes missing. Solo was pretty good, few wee bits here and there but nothing major. Was that to a backing track or what, what all did u record?

Yeah, I know a few bits are a bit off, only started last night , not bad after an hour i guess. i'll get a final version and my wanted up pretty soon.

RS8MB0R8 10-06-2006 09:29 PM

Couldn't be bothered with the acoustic part so just went for the solo instead:

http://www.putfile.com/rs8mb0r8/media

gazthomas 10-06-2006 11:45 PM

andy will you send me the wanted backing track to play about with?

gazthomas 10-07-2006 09:18 PM

heres a DC solo 2 recordin only had a bit of space on my fone so i missed the 1st solo off the sound qualiies shit cos i recorded it off my fone btw. but its still audiable

ill do a better one soon

Jim Bon Jovi 10-09-2006 07:53 PM

nice attempt gaz. i'll give credit where it's due.

do you still have that youtube solo video. the dude with the yellow doublecut doing it.

i'm choking to have a go at this one n watching it being played is usually better than using tabs. especially on a solo as busy as dry county.

Jim Bon Jovi 10-09-2006 11:18 PM

it's ok i found it:

have a look guys, he really tears it up:


gazthomas 10-10-2006 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi
nice attempt gaz. i'll give credit where it's due.

do you still have that youtube solo video. the dude with the yellow doublecut doing it.

i'm choking to have a go at this one n watching it being played is usually better than using tabs. especially on a solo as busy as dry county.


ill post a better one soon but i had to have the CD on cos i lose my timing pretty easy

backing track anyone?

bte that vid ^^ is very good thats one of the ways i used it plus i pinched a few improvs

RS8MB0R8 10-11-2006 12:54 AM

Here's my attempt at DC - the backing track I used seems to stagger/skip slightly just after the fast picking section towards the end but I tried my best! :)

http://www.putfile.com/rs8mb0r8/media

RS8MB0R8 10-11-2006 10:36 AM

I was quite impressed at your attempt Gaz, well until I listened a little harder and compared.

If you listen to the link Jim posted and the one you claim you played, you can quite clearly hear that they are in fact IDENTICAL. Every single aspect of it is the same - even the few bum notes.

Claiming that you can play something and then giving excuses as to why the submission is sub-par is one thing but claiming you played something and simply ripped it from somebody elses performance is not only reaching a new low but is also plagiarism.

If I'm wrong (which I'm 100% certain I'm not!) let's hear the better version then Gaz - or have you hurt your hand?

Jim Bon Jovi 10-11-2006 02:58 PM

goign to have to agree with r8 here when you listen they both are identical you can easilly hear the difference between r8s and the other solo but "gaz's" and the youtube one are exactly identical.

i'd like to hope you haven't stooped low enough to record something from youtube onto your mobile phone gaz.....

gazthomas 10-11-2006 04:41 PM

here we go again

this thread is gonna get unsubscribed

Jim Bon Jovi 10-11-2006 05:17 PM

gaz the tracks are IDENTICAL so far two of us have noticed that and im sure everyone else who has a listen will.

im pretty sure there are parts where you can hear you banging the phone on something trying to get it closer to the speakers.....

to be honest im not surprised. i half expected you to do this but i wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt but as soon as i saw that clip again i could tell straight away.

why do you have to lie or try to impress everyone? no one is going to get down on you for not being the best here. i know for a fact r8 and some of the others would hand my arse to me in a jam but it doesnt bother me cos none of them are going to get on my case about it and they wouldnt with you. they will however if you're constantly making up excuses for sub par efforts and then blatantly ripping off someones work to pass it off as yours.

RS8MB0R8 10-11-2006 05:37 PM

Gaz, given your recent "knackered hand" incident which meant you could apparently only play for a matter of seconds and suddenly your producing the DC solo 2 at that quality, I was a little sceptical to say the least.

I then played 'your' attempt (it pains me to even call it that) against the guy in the clip's back to back pausing his after each phrase and then listening to the equivalent phrase in 'your' rendition - they aren't just close, they are the same!!

Nobody disses anybody else or claims to be better than anyone else here but you can't get much lower than ripping somebody elses playing and trying to pass it off as your own. You've brought this upon yourself and to be honest it's rather sad. If you're not going to contribute to the post as intended and as openly and honestly as everbody else currently is, go ahead and unsubscribe - why bother posting bollocks?

Do you really get any sense of achievement out of stealing somebody elses clip and receiving the praise and compliments passed on from your peers for the quality of the playing which you know isn't your own?

Kev 10-11-2006 05:54 PM

This really doesnt surprise me in the slightest. He is always claiming to be someone that he is not. Just like the car that he claims to have, and the girlfriend with 38DD (or similar tits. If he had a girlfriend like that, he wouldnt be spending 10 hours a day on a message board. How does he ever feel like he will be taken seriously? When you lie...you get caught out. Anyone will tell you that.

Captain_jovi 10-11-2006 06:14 PM

He's allowed to say whatever he wants but as soon as someone calls him on it, it's "The groovy gang ganging up on him" so I wouldn't even bother. I just want the guy to be himself. The times I see him be himsef, he's a cool guy.

sstefazy 10-11-2006 06:45 PM

Jeepers, they do sound identical! Gaz, u can obviously play, we've heard and seen ur vids in the past, this thread is for improving our playin so dnt feel all sensitive bout ur playin going online for us to constructively encourage / criticise, we do what we can and improve upon that.

Kev 10-11-2006 11:50 PM

Anyone notice that Gaz hasn't come bback online on this thread to defend himself?

gazthomas 10-12-2006 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kev
Anyone notice that Gaz hasn't come bback online on this thread to defend himself?

haha kevin

its called goin out

****s sake my life doesnt revolve around this board, unlike yours.

FYI i played along to that recording which i told jim last night, i used it to see what fingers went were, along with the tab from ultimate-guitar

FFs folks ill do it again if you want

i just need the backing to get the timing and see where im at

and kev stop shit stiring this thread was ok before you butted in

and my ggirlfriend doesnt have 33DD and yes it is my car so what, we all dont live in squolla.

you guys are so on edge

and it looks well when matt is the only one defending me

Kev 10-12-2006 08:08 AM

Why lie about this? You have been caught out. Continuing to lie will get you into deeper trouble.

Thierry 10-12-2006 11:44 AM

Alright does anybody know what kind of pickups richie uses on his USA signature strat?

RS8MB0R8 10-12-2006 12:05 PM

If you're talking about the MK1 strat, it was two Texas Specials (neck and middle positions) and a DiMarzio PAF Pro (bridge).

The MK2 strat featured Fender Hot Noiseless pickups in all positions.

The Jap Black Paisley strat had two Richie Sambora Specials (neck and middle) and a DiMarzio PAF Pro at the bridge.

The Mex models had the same pickup models as the US MK1 model (I think) but didn't have the mid-boost or trademark star inlay maple necks.

Hope that helps Thierry ;)

Thierry 10-12-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RS8MB0R8
If you're talking about the MK1 strat, it was two Texas Specials (neck and middle positions) and a DiMarzio PAF Pro (bridge).

The MK2 strat featured Fender Hot Noiseless pickups in all positions.

The Jap Black Paisley strat had two Richie Sambora Specials (neck and middle) and a DiMarzio PAF Pro at the bridge.

The Mex models had the same pickup models as the US MK1 model (I think) but didn't have the mid-boost or trademark star inlay maple necks.

Hope that helps Thierry ;)

Thanks man, I've bought a Mexican Strat. I am looking to upgrade the pickups so that it will sound slightly better. I bought a FAT strat with Floyd Rose. But it isn't delivered yet.

Do you know how hard it is to replace pickups?

Jim Bon Jovi 10-12-2006 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry
Thanks man, I've bought a Mexican Strat. I am looking to upgrade the pickups so that it will sound slightly better. I bought a FAT strat with Floyd Rose. But it isn't delivered yet.

Do you know how hard it is to replace pickups?

technically speaking it's simply a case of cutting the other pickups wires and soldering the new wires on but over here most shops will put them in for free if you buy the pickups from them so that'd be worth checking out.

Thierry 10-12-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi
technically speaking it's simply a case of cutting the other pickups wires and soldering the new wires on but over here most shops will put them in for free if you buy the pickups from them so that'd be worth checking out.

Thanks for the comment Jim, but I think I will buy the pickups from E-Bay. Since they are a lot cheaper from there.

Jim Bon Jovi 10-12-2006 01:10 PM

well if you do a quick google search you'll find a tonne of sites explaining how to do it.

Jim Bon Jovi 10-12-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gazthomas
haha kevin

its called goin out

****s sake my life doesnt revolve around this board, unlike yours.

FYI i played along to that recording which i told jim last night, i used it to see what fingers went were, along with the tab from ultimate-guitar

FFs folks ill do it again if you want

i just need the backing to get the timing and see where im at

and kev stop shit stiring this thread was ok before you butted in

and my ggirlfriend doesnt have 33DD and yes it is my car so what, we all dont live in squolla.

you guys are so on edge

and it looks well when matt is the only one defending me


so now you're claiming you played along to the youtube video as opposed to doing the sensible thing and playing along with the cd?

or are you claiming the solo you played is exactly the same as the one on the youtube video, not because it actually is the audio from the video, but because you used it to learn on?

either way, it's just more bollocks eminating from your direction. you've been sussed and we all know it no matter what you say or how you spin it.

seriously though, what is the point?

Thierry 10-12-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi
well if you do a quick google search you'll find a tonne of sites explaining how to do it.

Thanks man! I think I will go to a guitar shop and let them built the pickups into the guitar. Shouldn't be too expensive.

Jim Bon Jovi 10-12-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry
Thanks man! I think I will go to a guitar shop and let them built the pickups into the guitar. Shouldn't be too expensive.


you should read up on it at least.

im not 100% sure wether you'd need to ground them or anything but it is supposed to be pretty simple even if you're new to soldering.

i'm looking into getting a new bridge mini humbucker for my legacy actually. its a great sounding guitar stock but its single coils just can't compete with my asat's p90s

gazthomas 10-12-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev
Why lie about this? You have been caught out. Continuing to lie will get you into deeper trouble.

kevin when have you ever took an interest in this threaD???

never!

there you go so stop butting in

ill play it again with a better mix and then you can all say what you want. itll just be the same


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