i REALLY want to see pics of this mecca you speak of.

you not interested in picking up a g&l then? seems a shame you've got all those strats and not a legacy in there somewhere.

they're different animals imo.

i've never had the pleasure of playing a G&L. i've heard great things about them though. what sort of price tag do they have?

Ive seen em on Ebay for £800

chhh £800s steep for one.

not meaning they arent worth it but because alot of people don't know who or what they are they're resale value isn't that great.

my legacy i got for 280 bangers with hardcase from soundcontrol because the idiot thought it was just some sort of crap knock off like a peavey

my asat i got for 550 with case too and that was a special with what im sure is a fairly rare finish.

deals like that don't come across too often but they are definetely out there. there was one on ebay this week from a shop in the US selling an ASAT special for £340 with case minus shipping and any taxes youd have to pay....

the one for £800 looked ecent i was thinkin about gettin one

i shop at souncontrol decent shop, which one do you go to??

didnt know thy sold G&Ls

i'm not sure the future mrs Jim Bon Jovi (if she even exists) would be so into the idea though :'-([/QUOTE]

Me and my girlfriend hve already agreed that when we get a house we're having another room for my music stuff. i had to agree to sharing it with a snake that she wants. i hate snakes but i'd padlock lock the little shit in it's tank. don't wanna be laying down my best ever solo and half way through a bloody great snake comes crawling up my leg.

As soon as its carpeted and painted i will post some pics for you.

I do ok money wise but i wouldnt class myself as rich. I have only ever bought decent guitars and i have never sold any of them. Guitars have always been my passion and i look at them as an investment. at the end of the day if i sold all my gear i wouldnt lose much money on any of it. Infact most of it would make money. Im not a pro musician or anything i am just a gear head.

I thought why save money in the bank when you can use it to invest in guitars, play them for a bit and then sell them for what you got them for?

Thats my opinion anyway

As far as g and l go i agree that they are a great guitar, very well made etc but they are not strats. Im not saying strats are any better or worse than them but to me a guitar is either a strat or not. I would probably go for one but its too close to a strat without being one. If you understand what i mean? dont think im saying there crap or anything though. If i bought one it would be a telecaster (i prefer there tele to fenders)

Ive always loved the strat as a guitar and a design icon and most of my collection consists of them.

As i said dont think im bashing g and l though. The one i tried had an ash body and kicked ass but i got an ash body strat instead.

Oh and that sambora video of his gear was great. Those sambora guitars look like crap (sorry). The "beater" looks awesome. i was dissapointed because he never really siad anything. Yeah he spoke but never actually said anything if you catch my drift.

Andy

Me and my girlfriend hve already agreed that when we get a house we're having another room for my music stuff. i had to agree to sharing it with a snake that she wants. i hate snakes but i'd padlock lock the little shit in it's tank. don't wanna be laying down my best ever solo and half way through a bloody great snake comes crawling up my leg.[/QUOTE]

At least no one would go in there and try and nick them or even worse f**** about with them.

Jim are your guitars the usa built ones or legacy (at least thats what i think there called)

Oh i forgot to mention i have some compensation money coming through soon about 10 grand so i might treat myelf to a custom shop strat. Still deciding on options etc. Theres a guy from one light burning (an american tribute band) who have actually played for bon jovi. He has a custom shop sambo strat so i might fancy one of them (do a search for one light burning)

Or norms rare guitars have a white sambora japanese strat similar to my gold one, i think he played this on the crush dvd they want 6000 USD

http://www.normansrareguitars.com/st...?categoryid=31

http://www.normansrareguitars.com/st...?categoryid=10

some nice guitars there. i love the nylon strung paisley but its not pratical.

I reckon that gibson l5 rocks
or the black sambora with rosewood neck and stars
or the anderson
Andy

the g&l's are both the US ones.

coincidentally theyre both dated to around november 1996. they didnt start making the tributes (korean builds) till a few years back.

i shop at sound control glasgow gaz but it was the 2nd hand section i just happened to come across a g&l in.

little side note. my bro runs gigs and got talking to a guitarist the other day. apparently this guys bass player has some sort of G&L but never gigs with it. the guy was so jealous when my bro told him i had 2 and he got to play them whenevr he wanted.

very nice

wish i had £3000 though lol

i want an anderson guitar simlilar to the one on the link

id also love a guitar richie owned just so i could brag

i dunno really im not the best guitarist in the world, prob not even in the top 5 in this thread but i love to play quality guitars.

im more of a show off and poser myself, kinda like jbj but with talent lol (guitar wise btw)

I would say that one of richies guitars would be amazing build quality etc would be top notch.

Gaz im not the best guitarist in the world either probably not in the top 5 as well but you cant beat a quality guitar. Sorry to mention it again but the playability of my jap aztec gold sambora strat makes it hard to put down.

im pretty happy with my standards at the moment although im always striving to get better. Luckily one of my best guitar moments i managed to capture. www.putfile.com/andymarshal click on andy ballad once i have finnished my house im going to start practising properly again.

Andy

i dunno if i'd dig an anderson or anything too fancy.

i like good nice guitars as much as th enext man but there's a thing such as too nice y know?

i dont want a guitar im scared to take out of the case. thats why i dont get people who shell out big bucks for a les paul or really nice fender and don't let it leave the house.

you've got some nice tone on that recording andy and some hot playing.

i intend to start learning and practicing properly once i get home from my busking trip (if i ever want to look at a guitar again that is) i've kind of rested on my laurels for the past few years with regards to improving or doing any substantial work on my chops.

actually thinkin about it im prob in the top 3 no offense lol :p

no good job man!

why is an anderson too fancy jim??


anyone know the cost of one lol???

andersons cost a coupla of grand +

they just seem like fancy strats and thus i think they're more for people who are bothered about how they look than how they play and ive always had an idea of them being fragile for some reason.

Some of those high end guitars are beautiful like anderson and prs my prs is awesome. i would never be afraid to play any guitar but i know what you mean. some collectors see guitars as furniture though.

Thanks for the compliment on my track. It really is the best guitar ive ever played it took me ages to set up the recording gear to get that elusive mix. That mix was my 7th or 8th try back then i was practising up to 4 hours a day. Now im luck to get 4 hours a week, although im banging away through my pod as we speak.

Practise definately pays off. another tip is i dont consider practise to be playing something you can already nail over and over agian. you need to aim higher and undertsand the scales where the song come from and even try your own solo. you need to maybe try sweep picking for one week then like shredding the next week then chord structures the week after and then nail it all together but keep practising tougher and tougher solos. It pays to spend a lot of time on vibtrato, try to kind of rock your wrist back and forth as opposed to shaking your fingers of any other crap. You van tell a good guitarist by his vibrato or string bending technique. For example watch that youtube smabora lesson where he bends the b string on the 12th fret and then vibratos it, thats what to aim for.

I does take me at least an hour to get into the zone of speed and accuracy ie bending perfectly and vibrato very few people can grab a guitar and instantly nail perfect bends etc. cant wait to start playing properly again.

Andy

Ok guys why not start a competition who is the number one guitarist on the board? (not saying i am). But maybe we can submit some songs on the board and let the people decide.

Who would be up for that?

Andy

i learned DC the other week and it took ages but now i can sit back and play it all the way through no problem, i can see myslef playin that song for a while now...which means i wont progress as much.

but hey all i do in the band is play a few licks, and chords, a few solos and sing plus make myself look good.

ill try an get a few of duffs demo tapes and ill show you good, he shreds at like 240bpm like its nothin

yeah man thats what i mean, ive rested on my laurels.

back in the day my band were one of the biggest and best unsigned ones on the scene here so i just kind of got into a comfort zone and thought, this doesnt require me to be able to nail sultans or anything like that so why bother spending time practicing when i can get by being this good/at this level?

when i get back im going to try and hammer into some these days solo's.

i would but i dont know how the stuff to do it with, unless i lend it......... but still yeh

or we could pick a solo and see whos the best, this would be alot better IMO for tecnique and to have a guide line as to 8 people lpayin different stlyes and havin the odd bt of luck lol

wer you talkin to me then jim???

ill tell you what

who has MSN then invite each other into the convos its ****in alot faster than this and the recordings can be donw live

nah i was talking to andy about practicing.

case in point: i played "rythmn" in my band ie no solos though i did get to play lots of little cool licks and stuff and wasnt just resigned to chords so to be honest i'd get my arse kicked at solo-ing on here in most probability but for rythmn i'd hold me own.

ok shredding is great but its not really my style. i can shred but i dont really focus on it too much. i prefer a more slow and soulful approach a bit like my track. I dont think the objective of playing the guitar is to go as fast as you can as much as you can but i agree it is an art. Just not me. Look forward to the tapes being posted.

I have some randy rhoads solos i can post from the same era as my ballad if anyone is interested in them. Im quite proud of them as this was the way i practised by learning randy solos, they are a little more technical than richies so i figured if i can nail randys theni can nail richies.

Andy

ok guys choose a solo?

ive never liked shredding at all as in the weedly weedly shit thats all over the 80s thats why ive never really got into "fast" soloing.

i'd rather play something cool like a stones or bowie solo that has a bit of feeling and you can really dig into than just weedle away for 3 minutes but if you guys set the challenge ill take it up when i get back from busking.

I hear you, i wasnt getting any better by keeping playing richie solos over and over again, after all they are mainly pentatonic based. that why i took up randy rhoads stuff, definately helped.

As i said before its all about the feel of the guitar, string bending and especially vibrato is a huge part of capturing the feeling.

Andy

to me rythmn is easy its just learnin how to formulate chords and different patterns, but im not dissin it cos im a rythmn player and its cool, but i get to play easier solos eg some bon jovi , most bryan adams and early 70's and eighties whereas duff plays all our own originals and more challenging stuff that requires 2 guitars (eg kiss)

its sort of a give and take thing duff has no problem in takin a back seat as a lead guitarist and lettin me have abit of lean way, which is why i wanted him in my band, he doesnt so much show off and try and steal the limelight he just does a hell of a job and gets on with it.

anyway who the **** knows how to spell rhythum??? lol

we need a decent TAB or somethin for it first

Bed of roses anyone , we gotta start small

in these arms gets a vote from me, ive always liked that solo.

maybe just older

One of my favourite richie solos is i believe a very simple and effective solo.

Its not about as many notes as you can as fast as you can, its more about knowing when not to play, thats more of a skill than playing scales all over the board.

Oh and jim, i quoted form the wromg post, but you get what i mean.

Andy

ill make a thread on it on announcement ok?

we need a good tab for it btw

well only if you want everyone to nail the solo bang on as it is in the recording.

i think it could be much more interesting if we had the basis of the solo but you could work around it just like richie (and most other guitarists do) live

i mean how exactly are we going to differentiate if they're all the exact same?

Bed of roses is a good start. i will try to knock up a downloadable backing track, for you guys to solo over by the end of the week. there should be a good tab on the web.

andy

yeh but what im sayin is we want everyone to have the basis not just say play the solo to everyday and have someone playin it in standard tuning

i can tab most of it, its just the fast(ish) bit in the middle where its hard to transcribe. but we should be able to make somethin up

im not even sure how to get recordings from my desk onto my laptop so i dunno how feasible getting a backing track from the laptop onto a track on the desk would be :-(

i might have to be doing this one "a capella" guys

I see your point Jim, but as soon as i heard the backing i think it would be difficult to restrain from slippimg into the original solo.

Does anyone have a suitable random backing track we could use. I cant find the one i solod over. I dont think people would mind what key it was in.

We could have say 2 months to practise and nail it if you like or i dont mind an immediate one. Its up to you guys

Andy

same here

tbh i think our best bet is to do it all acapella on msn or somethin cos itd be live an raw, i mean we wouldnt want anyone flukin it now would we lol

I can see it being a problem people recording stuff as its quite difficult to do. nd people shouldnt be judged onn the quality of there recording just the guitar playing.

andy