you are just getting silly now and i never said id didnt believe in god or that i wasnt a christian. and yes i believe in teachers and i believe they should teach the kids to use condoms.

can you answer me a serious question? apart from being told by the church not to use condoms on what basis do you think it is wrong?

oh and by the way it is a fact that the vatican knew about priests sexually abusing children in america and ireland. they did nothing to protect those children and that is wrong

i didnt say it was wrong im defending the churchs teching on it! can u tell me since it gives a gud reason in the bible can u say a resaon why that lesson is wrong? because people want it? since when do people know better than god?

What good reason? Sex between consenting adults doesn't harm anyone, and if they are incapable of supporting a child and don't wish to catch any diseases then they should use contraception. It isn't killing anything but cells which would die anyway if not used.

see i can see how u wuld think that way but just because u killed it before it enters the body doesnt make it any different ur still preventing the child from being made or born! (IMO) its just a really early form of abortion! like the pill! it is possible to have sex with using condoms and wont result in a baby being conceived!

in what way are you defending the churchs teaching on it ? with what argument are you defending it? youre not you are just repeating what you have been taught/told.

since when do people know better than god?

if god really thinks that condoms are wrong then i think that god is wrong about that. but i dont think that god does think condoms are wrong . i think that god would reason that it is a sensible option these days.

so masturbation is " wrong " ? and if so why ?

If you don't have sex the sperm cells will die inside you and more will replace them, so they die either way, and I bet there aren't many people who would agree on contraception being a form of abortion. To abort the life of a baby it has to be alive to start with.

well see the churchs just sees it as a form of abortion!!! but thats thier view and the view that st paul put in the bible! its him who all moral teaching are taken from that forms christanity!

Well I'm not sure what life was like 2000 years ago, but its very different now so living by such old rules seems stupid.

...and how are the rules and such from god if St Paul wrote them down? Did he hear voices?

inspired by the holy spirit! more are less told by god what to write!! doesnt matter how old they are if god says there true then we cant argue! they will be 3000 years old and still be relevent!

even now not one of his teaching have ever been proved wrong!