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well i know im not one for following all th eteachings!!
as for oppressed life i dnt really think i have one! as free as anyone else maybe more!! lol have plent of hoobys thats why iv been on this nearly a year and just about 200 posts!! if ur so sure that god doesnt exist go ask some that actually knowsd more about it than me!! u mite find ur ideas about religion r wrong but god forbid that!!!! |
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he doesnt say u have to have a child lol |
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well maybe u want to do something say sex with random but since religion is against that then u dnt believe in that!! i dnt know using it as an example i know wat i believe and if others dnt that is fine by them!!! after all were all jovi fans in the end the only thing that shuld really matter on this site! |
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you have to free will to accept religion or not!! lol its up to u!! again for the last time im only defending treaching and not preaching!! im only 19 for feck sake!!! dnt know it all and my defense of the chruch may not be right!! u shuld try some religious site if u want to argue properly about god and the ways of the world!! i go to mass each sunday and thats about as much with religion i have each week!! lol i just defend it not preach it! |
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lol god is a creation of man?? can u prove that fact!!! its comes down to ur opwn belief but u have no eveidnece to say tha god doesnt exisit and u have more to say that he does i dnt really care if u do or not lol |
What?! You have no evidence to say that god does exist
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i live a very gud life and the only thing i care about these time is getting a bit of a workout dne during the day cause iv a new part time job in a club were i have to be topless and i dnt need flab showing lol!!!!!
religion isnt really 2 hi on my list of things but i will defend it wen it comes under attack!! just cause u believe god is a man made thing again doesnt make it right!! but thats ur belief and ur happy about it! i say u gotta live ur life why not that way i live mine my way!! and i wuldnt fall out with anyone over thier beliefs! |
i dont know an awful lot about the catholic religion but from everything i have observed it seems like a guilt ridden belief. my point about asking you why you believe was that you werent born with these beliefs. the things that you believe have been taught and learnt. you believe it because youve been told it is the truth. if you had been born in say pakistan you could well be a muslim.
ive formed my own beliefs/morals based on life not on something i was ever taught. we used to have a chapel at school but i damned if i can remember anything they told me. all im saying is imo you believe what you do because youve been told to. |
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there is evidence but none which says he does for def same as u dnt have any that says he dnt for def!!! |
there is really no evidence to suggest that god indeed does exist!
also, i find it kind of funny how you keep telling people they needed to accept your views, yet you tell them their (not) believing is wrong. you can believe what you want, but in my opinion its not right to try to convert people towards your belief in god. who are you to say everyone else is wrong? |
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lol i was thinking the same thing
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do i live by alll the rules hell no but iv have my faith whci helps me day to day and thats why i believe in god! |
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Well really it is easier to disprove god than to prove it. I'll ask im to show himself before me right now, and since he is everywhere he'd hear right and do it? If he doesn't then he mustn't exist. He didn't show up, so he doesn't exist Now, where is this evidence that says he does exist? (don't say the bible) |
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lol a man prays to god for his wife to be cure of cancer and she was god exisits! lol |
since its being discussed i just wanna quote something bill hicks said cause i just think he was right about everything.......
"The whole image is that eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions God's infinite love. That's the message we're brought up with, isn't it? Believe or die! 'Thank you, forgiving Lord, for all those options" |
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like you said you dont have all the answers. id give up now if i were you (friendly advice) |
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sometimes i thank god for answered parayer i believe is a song!!! again just cause we ask for something doesnt mean we get it when u were younger did u always get what u want?? |
no whats your point?
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Sure miracles happen, it doesn't mean that it was caused by divine intervention. If it was then bad people who get cancer would die, and good people would live.
In the grand scheme though someone could rape and murder people, and then say sorry and get forgiveness and get into heaven, but someone who doesn't believe/believes another religion, wouldn't get in. Now of course that matters little to me anyway since I don't believe it, but as jbjhand says it is a message of "believe or die" |
Also, just to add, you said you don't follow it completely - isn't that pointless? If you don't go all the way you are just basically saying "OK I like that bit, I'm ok with this, oh no, I can't go along with that..." etc I think it was in one of Dan Browns books, the phrase "buffet table religion"
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as iv said theres a lot of answeres for ur questions which im not fit to answer!! u all going on as if u won an argument with me on religion but wud u have dne with someome a lot more experienced in religion than me i dnt know!! all i know is a lot more good has come out of believeing in god than not believeing |
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maybe they wud ask them wen u die lol i know this argument culd go on for days with different arguemnts coming all the time!! i believe this threads topic as changed i dnt know how many times lol u may have a question and the religious person may have the answer and a question of his own!! im a noraml lay person in terms of religion!!! ill have to teach in school after i qualify in a few years time! another question culd be did any harm come to any of you from learning about god???lol i dout it |
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again im bord and keeping the thing going lol theres so many questions asked so may to answers to use lol!!! it all gud in the end i ant following out wif any of u nope its the same no lost respect for anyone plz be the same for me lol |
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ok but do u not think there are many more lives that the catholic church has helped?? a friend of mine died in a car crash just over a month ago and his mother was tottally devisated as any mother wud be. she started going to mass everyday after that accident and she told my mother that it thelped her alot to get threw that time! and she still goes to mass everyday still! we all have exampls of one or the other!! i also no girls who are totally ****ed up about sex to it happens! |
i know the chuch helps people to get through life and im not saying that is a bad thing.what i think is bad is that someone of your age believes that condoms are wrong. if you were uneducated and you lived in a hut in africa somewhere then ok. there is no reason for you to think that as a rational human being.
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im in uni living the way any other guy does!! granted i now have a gf (why i dnt know lol) iv about 4 bottle of poteen lying in wait for the start of nxt term!! i know wat some of the churches teaching r and im just giving there view point! not saying i obey all the laws!!! not a hippacrit cause im not preaching just given there view point lol!!! like saying wat my best friends view on something is and why he believes it!! |
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hey i know that happens as well!! people find comfort in different ways!! but i think its a better thought that my friend is in heaven living it up! than just in the ground rotting! IMO |
thats why i say you are on the wind up cause you dont even obey "the laws"
youre just having a laugh fair enough. im going out b4 i go blind looking at this screen |
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