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Beavoid 08-10-2006 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by allmike
So that give them freedom to distroy whole nation???. In Indian-Pakistan border... there is daily exchange of misiles and bomb and also there is so many people kidnapped... so will India also go and attack Pakistan??. If thats the way you solve ur problem.... u never solve anything.......

Eventually, something will have to change. In Israel's case, this was their choice of action. War and conflicts can never be eliminated because nobody thinks alike and there will always be groups of vile people like those of Hezbollah who twist things and thrive on peoples' understanding and sympathy. And they will always, eventually, have to be eliminated one way or another. Working out a peace treatie with them is like telling a lion it must become a vegan. And even if they did sign it, it would only mean more deaths later as well as acceptance of their viewpoint on Israelie extermination as legitimate, which it is not. Any treatie would be a lie becuase their sole mission is the extermination of Israel and their own rise to power. Lions can't live in the human population and they come at you, you must kill them if you can.

And, once again, Lebanon sure isn't helping in this matter. Their leaders support Hezbollah openly and their army does nothing to stop Hezbollah or condemn their viewpoints or actions or protect its people, and its people do and say nothing. Israel accepted Lebanon and Palestinian sovereinty long ago, but they continue to be attacked by them. Lebanon is a puppet government for Iran and Syria through and through.

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allmike 08-10-2006 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beavoid
Eventually, something will have to change. In Israel's case, this was their choice of action. War and conflicts can never be eliminated because nobody thinks alike and there will always be groups of vile people like those of Hezbollah who twist things and thrive on peoples' understanding and sympathy. And they will always, eventually, have to be eliminated one way or another. Working out a peace treatie with them is like telling a lion it must become a vegan. And even if they did sign it, it would only mean more deaths later as well as acceptance of their viewpoint on Israelie extermination as legitimate, which it is not. Any treatie would be a lie becuase their sole mission is the extermination of Israel and their own rise to power. Lions can't live in the human population and they come at you, you must kill them if you can.

And, once again, Lebanon sure isn't helping in this matter. Their leaders support Hezbollah openly and their army does nothing to stop Hezbollah or condemn their viewpoints or actions or protect its people, and its people do and say nothing. Israel accepted Lebanon and Palestinian sovereinty long ago, but they continue to be attacked by them. Lebanon is a puppet government for Iran and Syria through and through.

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Yeah.... so other nation threat u.. so destroy it right??. There is no other explination what Israel doing in Lebanon.... I'm sure theywill threaten by syria and Iran and go on war to destroy them too... I'm sure Israel will feel good when there is no neighours nation left......There is no way war will solve any problem...

daveyboy 08-10-2006 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by allmike
Yeah.... so other nation threat u.. so destroy it right??. There is no other explination what Israel doing in Lebanon.... I'm sure theywill threaten by syria and Iran and go on war to destroy them too... I'm sure Israel will feel good when there is no neighours nation left......There is no way war will solve any problem...

What do you suggest Israel do then?

daveyboy 08-10-2006 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by daveyboy
What do you suggest Israel do then?

Still waiting Allmike! :wave:

allmike 08-10-2006 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by daveyboy
Still waiting Allmike! :wave:

for example Like this on this below article

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-u...o_b_25822.html

daveyboy 08-10-2006 09:00 PM

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In this case, Israel could have done some bombings and then pulled back and worked with the Lebanese government and international organizations to get an effective buffer zone in southern Lebanon.
Lets put it this way Allmike. I'm standing outside throwing rocks at your house. You think it's a good idea to throw a few rocks back at me, then go inside and ring my Mum to try and get me to move back a little? Get real.

There are missiles raining down on Israel, from an organisation who use civilian areas to fire from. And you just want them to throw a couple back and get round the table again? It's just not realistic at all and not as simple as you want it to be. Be careful who you paint out to be the villains.

allmike 08-10-2006 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by daveyboy
Lets put it this way Allmike. I'm standing outside throwing rocks at your house. You think it's a good idea to throw a few rocks back at me, then go inside and ring my Mum to try and get me to move back a little? Get real.

There are missiles raining down on Israel, from an organisation who use civilian areas to fire from. And you just want them to throw a couple back and get round the table again? It's just not realistic at all and not as simple as you want it to be. Be careful who you paint out to be the villains.

Man my bro in law was in Indian army and he was in Indo-pak boarder for 5 years... there is not a single day where Pakistan missiles was not fallen on indian land and what about train blast recently in MKumbai??. Don't we all know who behind it??. So we go after Pakistan and destroy the whole nation?.

When u distroying whole nation... don't u expect people to fight back??. Don't see whats happening in Iraq??. How this is going to be different??. There defntly multi national UN force to be deployed and Israel has to stop this madness.... This is never going to make there nation any safe i can gurantee you... this just lead to be more attack on israelies though direct or indirect way....

Beavoid 08-11-2006 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by allmike
Yeah.... so other nation threat u.. so destroy it right??. There is no other explination what Israel doing in Lebanon.... I'm sure theywill threaten by syria and Iran and go on war to destroy them too... I'm sure Israel will feel good when there is no neighours nation left......There is no way war will solve any problem...

That is precisely NOT what Israel is doing. If Israel wanted to simply destroy Lebanon, they could have now or last year or at any time. The reason they are not is because they value the lives of the citizens there and do NOT want to exterminate them. Please follow the news or read the previous posts before typing a response.

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Beavoid 08-11-2006 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by allmike
for example Like this on this below article

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-u...o_b_25822.html

Even that lefty shock-jock reporter (self described as such in his bio) says Hezbollah is evil and vile and sympathy for them is ridiculous. Yet still you hold sympathy for them. Just because the Lebanese people cannot see past the Hezbollah propoganda and hatred for Israel in general or for doing what must be done, doesn't mean you must be the same way. In the article he does not offer sympathy for Hezbollah. This article also mocks your previous notion that Israel is out to wipe out Lebanon. This was a poor article to choose in support of your viewpoint.

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Beavoid 08-11-2006 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by allmike
Man my bro in law was in Indian army and he was in Indo-pak boarder for 5 years... there is not a single day where Pakistan missiles was not fallen on indian land and what about train blast recently in MKumbai??. Don't we all know who behind it??. So we go after Pakistan and destroy the whole nation?.

I will not propose a solution to this problem until I read more on it and get back to you. But I will ask: if you would just let it happen then and accept it as part of life? Many UN treaties have been signed and Israel is always the loser in the agreements here and palestinians continue to defile Israelie sovereignty.

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When u distroying whole nation... don't u expect people to fight back??. Don't see whats happening in Iraq??. How this is going to be different??. There defntly multi national UN force to be deployed and Israel has to stop this madness.... This is never going to make there nation any safe i can gurantee you... this just lead to be more attack on israelies though direct or indirect way....
If it is, those attacks were coming anyway and would have been much worse later. As I and YOUR reporter friend have stated, sympathy for Hezbollah is ridiculous. They are terrorists and people who would go after Israel for defending themselves are either Terrorists (like the syrian government or the Iranian govenment) or sheep following a herd and not examining the big picture. They should be upset with their own government for supporting Hezbollah and allowing them to gain this power and letting them continue this battle. The Lebanese government has failed.

And, again, Israel is precisely NOT destroying an entire nation of people. This would have been done weeks ago if that was their aim. Lebanon would already be obliterated.

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