There's no players in the box when crosses come in because they're lazy. Most play in the Premiership which has been touted the most difficult league in the world but only because it's full of the best exciting foreign players - if it was just English players, it'd be one of the worst leagues in the world. It's the money that's the drawa to foreign players and thus it's the money that keeps the Premiership top-class.

You can count the number of one-touch passes between England players on one hand in almost any game you look at in recent times. Nobody works for each other and nobody puts in 100%. They probably just think, "Hey, we're England - we're 'supposed' to be good," and then expect to win games on that basis alone.

The whole team needs a boot up the arse but unfortunately, because the media always have the coach in their sights, the players know that they'd have to f**k up really badly for any of the attention to fall directly on them as individuals. Even the aftermath of Robinson's fluffed clearance and calamitous goal conceded against Croatia fell most heavily on McClaren. Why?

As much as he underperformed, at least Beckham actually 'worked' for the team. Gerrard and Hargreaves do too but too many players don't, eg. Lampard, Rooney and they either need to pull their fingers out or be dropped. Although, who in the English game is good enough to replace them? :roll:

I agree they cant play as a team but I do put that down to the manager. I dont rate Mclaren as a manager at all, he has his favourites like P Neville who should have been out the team a long time ago. Why take Lennon off on Saturday when he was the only person who looked like creating anything?? At least if we dont qualify for Euro 08 he will get sacked.

If I had the choice of seeing England qualify for Euro 2008 or McClaren getting the boot, I think I'd choose the first option.

I reckon we will qualify , andora is such a poor team any of our 2nd division teams would be able to beat them..... but qualifying like this doesnt mean much and wont lift the team or get the management changed.

I read today below.....more disrespect....




England manager Steve McClaren and star striker Wayne Rooney were involved in a dressing-room row after the goalless draw against Israel, according to reports.

The Manchester United forward is said to have walked out of the dressing room after being singled out for criticism by McClaren, whose team have now failed to score in four of their last five matches.

Rooney has failed to score a competitive goal for England since Euro 2004 and McClaren is reported to have told the 21-year-old star that he has not played well for his country for three years.

Rooney reportedly responded by throwing his boots and kit at the wall in frustration and it is reported the argument was so loud it could be heard in the Israel dressing room next door.

The former Everton forward endured a frustrating evening, failing to really get into the game and being shown a yellow card after a spat with Bolton defender Tal Ben Haim.

McClaren, who knows anything other than victory over Group E whipping boys Andorra in Barcelona on Wednesday will bring calls for his immediate dismissal, retains enough faith in his players to feel confident he will lead them to Austria and Switzerland next summer.

"We have to believe in ourselves. The ultimate goal is qualification. How we get there doesn't matter," he said.

"There is still a hell of a long way to go. If we had not got in the box, created chances or had shots, then I would be worried. We know we should have won on Saturday but all we can do is get on with the job.''

england thinks they got it bad! look who we have for a manager! steve stanton! man hasnt a clue! but im hoping he comes around to his senses, got a win on saturday against wales, and if we can get another on wedensday we can set ourselfs up for a chance at euro 2008

England already had a good team, last few years they really have incredible players - could be THE team of this age next to Brazil.
Somehow it just don't fit, won't get to a real team. Same problem as Holland really always had, no matter wich players you kick out (Beckham, V Bommel) it will still be the same. It's in the personality of the English & the Dutch....

and the opposite of the German...

and i thought u knew a little about football.

lampard,gerrard,terry,rooney,owen,beckham

2 play in the same position and seem never to produced for thier country, owen is always injured and even when he plays he needs to be in form, beckham was always over-rated imo.

rooney has a lot of talent and could become a world class player if he learns to stop being a twat, and terry is a good defender but england will always be a quater-final team, its only there media that build them up higher, after all they have meant to be one of the favorites for every world cup since 1966

not 1998....they played in Romania's group that year :D. We were seated and England were drawn into our group...those were the days. We also beat them 3:2 ...Dan Petrescu scoring in the last minute. Ah...how I miss those days. Mutu's generation has a good chance now. They have to qualify damn it!

Hehe! This from the BBC website:

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Lampard ruled out of Andorra game

England midfielder Frank Lampard has been ruled out of the Euro 2008 qualifier against Andorra on Wednesday due to a cracked bone in his wrist.

The 28-year-old suffered the injury during training on Monday when he was struck by a Wayne Rooney shot.

But the injury is worse than was first thought and Lampard will not feature at Espanyol's Olympic Stadium.

Stewart Downing is expected to step in to the midfield on the left, with Aaron Lennon playing wide on the right.

Ashley Cole is back from suspension and will replace Jamie Carragher at left-back, while Micah Richards is set to step in at right-back in place of Phil Neville.

Meanwhile, England boss Steve McClaren has launched an impassioned defence of his players' attitude, saying they do care about playing for the national side.

The squad have been criticised for a lack of passion after recent below-par displays.

But McClaren said: "They care. They're passionate about playing for England.

"It hurts them when they lose. It's 10 times harder playing for your country than it is for your club."

Saturday's 0-0 draw with Israel leaves England three points behind second-placed Russia and five adrift of Group E leaders Croatia - and in danger of not qualifying for Euro 2008.

McClaren added: "There's no problem with their attitude.

"They want to win. They failed on Saturday because they didn't score a goal, end of story."

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Maybe somebody paid Rooney to force McClaren's hand and drop Lampard? Saying that though, Rooney's performances have left a lot to be desired too.

Now we get to see how England play without the overrated, uninspired, Chelsea midfielder!!!

well its not going very well !!!!!!!!! The crowd is shouting there is only one Beckham !!!!!!! the booing is awful.... oops another yellow card for Rooney !!