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Your talking crap again gaz. I posted proof that you area lier in the announcements thread. You did say 'until you are a mod' and I posted a screen capture of this evidence also. I have nothing to brag about. I close threads when you are abusive to other members of the board and will continue to do do. Deal with it. Threatened? Don't make us laugh!

So just gonna close the threads, and lower yourself?
The discussion started with 'no fun to read board anymore', but if every thread is gonna be closed where something 'bad' is said, wich wasnt really in the thread where quote came from (and wich I couldnt reply because its closed) but then again stays in the forum and still can be read, it is just the same except not 20 ppl reacting but 4, the last one of course a mod who will close it then.

If your a gonna do something do it good, now in a few days a whole forum will be full of closed threads if this is the next step.
Example; I got so many times banned at backstagejbj.com & bonjovi.com that I don't even bother to go there.
If my post would still be shown (and not deleted) I would have so much fun over there...

Cant this be dealt with for once and for all instead of a lot of chit-chat and only make it worse/complicated, now all there is been said is for nothing

(PS I can also not post in the original thread ('How do u like me'), because its.......closed, while the discussion still contineus (see other closed thread from quote)

Better to have threads closed than threads full of insults and crap.

if you decide to do something about the 'problem' (wich I still believe comes from 2 ways!), do it good and not like this, what is changed, nothing, only now people who still want to react on-topic and ignore the insulting and the insulting on the insulter they ..... can't, this means threads are not open for discussion anymore PLUS it is much more easier to ruin a thread now (more than before)

Again, if you do a something, do it good, this makes absolutely no sence now, in the contrary, if you want to destroy if for others, its much more easier now...

i think after whats happened in the last few days the mods should make a statement and make it clear to everyone what is and isnt acceptable.
its ok not having rules untill someone abuses that and imo some of what has been said in the last few days is beyond anything that should be tolerated.

So your suggestion is?

brief synopsis of what i've missed over the weekend please....

lol do a search on gazthomas

ive been studying all day i cant be arsed reading pages full of crap.....

ok well gaz has been actin the twat. calling people names using abusive language the usual stuff really. not sure when he went over the line but hes had a few threads closed and he aint allowed a sig or an avatar. and hes pretty pissed off about it. all good fun

See I can leave this (for example) thread open, and within one day it will be FILLED wkith insults of any kind all from Gaz. What is the point of it? It is going round in circles. This guy cannot be trusted, therefore he has had some rights removed. He CONTINUES to insult people and ruin threads over and over again. One of JT's policies is that, if a user starts calling names, throwing insults at one another, then a thread should be closed or locked as it used to be called on the older software.

Gaz asked this very question over the in Questions, Announcements forum and as Mousebounce said, if he continues to abuse people in this way, then threads WILL be closed. What is difficult to understand about this? Until Gaz can grow up, and STOP his CONTINOUS insults, then threads are going to CONTINUE to be ruined. The users have gazthomas to blame for the current state of affairs at Jovitalk, NOT The Moderators.

You have to understand that we have done our utmost to ensure that this message board has a high degree of freedom of speach. gaz completely ruined his chances of ever having a say due to the fact that he cannot stop acting like a child. This is not an unsult. It is merely a fact and any other person in this community will tell you the same. The moderators have (and will continue) to keep this board free of insults, just like it should be. This community is filled with a complete range of different ages, cultures and personalitires, and is difficult enough to keep every single person happy at all times. We have to go with the majority when decisions need to be made regarding troublesome users such as gazthomas. I am sure most here will agree with us that it is best to keep the board free of this kind of language, rather than to let it continue.

Any further issues or concerns, please PM one of the moderating team or admin, and we will happy to answer any questions that you may have.

Regards
Kev

I understand you reasons, well not totally but that would be just me I noticed, but sorry, closing a thread is the stupiest thing imo you can do. If the insults didnt spoil a thread for someone, closing it will do. THen just delete the post...
Plus with closing the thread, you will ruin it for EVERYBODY not just the instultposter

Also, again, now its much easier to ruin a thread, a insultpost can be deleted, or adjusted so the thread can go on, next to that it is not only the insultpost wich is irritating, but also all the responces on that insultposts.

Lets have a nice thread, 20 nice posts, Mr X comes by and thinks, 'hey that thread is going too friendly', so an insult, bam trhead closed, while other people would still like to react ON-topic.

If you like the board to be Mr X-free than ban him, block him from posting, if he comes back under another name, ban him again & again & again, eventually you don't have to anymore and I bet now you'll have to close more threads then you would have to ban

(BTW keep the thread open, delete Gaz's insulting post from these, at least it can be discussed wich you will get anyway everytime you close a thread)

I don't really agree. Moderating Gaz is kind of redundant. Why should the mods do THAT much work, constantly deleting his posts. If 8/10 of everything he says involves an insult, why bother? I don't think Peter wants to ban anyone, so we're at the point where banning is not an option. Gaz still thinks he's in the right, even when proof has been proivded he's wrong.

There is nothing more to discuss when it comes to Gaz, hence the fact why threads about him will be closed. If he chooses to ruin other discussions, then we will just delete his posts so as not to ruin it for everyone else around here. But debates about Gaz are done, as there is nothing more to debate.

Agreed. It is no problem deleting a few posts from Gaz, but then if you delete what he wrote. He will come along once again saying "Why did golem delete by thread you twat", so thats another that has to be deleted, and again, and again, and its a never ending saga. That is why it is often easier to lock the thread. We are sorry for those who's threads are ruined by gaz, but like I said above, the moderators cannot be blamed directly for this. We try and keep the board insult free. No-one should have to read his constant bullying.

As you will see in many threads in the past three-four weeks especially, I have deleted a LOT of gaz's single posts and added a 'uncalled for behavior' note to say WHY the post had been deleted. Depeneding on just how many times he decides to insult innocent people, and how many arguments arise from each of his 'attacks', will determine whether we feel the thread should be closed completely or just single posts removed. Either way, we are not going to please everyone by doing this, but we can promise you, we have the majority of the boards users best interests at heart.

wasnt debating Gaz, was debating how his posts and those threads are handled... where indeed deleting his posts (as said) is better than just closing the threads for the obvious reasons

When he starts a stupid thread about How U Like me or whatever, he is leading people into a debate about him. These are the types of threads that will be locked, because as I have said, there is nothing more to say.

no ban - no bother to delete posts - just close whole threads? Easy target for him, yeah that keeps this board nice...

wasnt debating Gaz, was debating how his posts and those threads are handled... where indeed deleting his posts (as said) is better than just closing the threads for the obvious reasons. But then again you give him (and everybody else) a very easy way to keep hassling you...

Keep trying to lead us into yet ANOTHER discussion about this. Ain't happening today, sorry. :)

its exactly THE SAME discussion so it did already happen, but nevermind....

I can see why they banned you on other boards.

Ice

first of all, IT is exactly the same discussion, second of all, believe me that was for other reasons. third of all, thread started with the fact that every thread will be closed when Gaz posts something Gazzie no matter if others wanted to reply on-topic, wich just didnt make any sence, and I think I had a good point

fourth of all i was waiting for you to come with a reaction wich absolutely adds no value and IMO is just as anoying as Gaz if not only there to provoke someone into insulting

fifth of all, I'm done, read thread first if you want to know what I ment

I don't care about freedom of speech, or questions of morality or whatever. This is a message board, we come here in our free time to be entertained, and with Gaz acting like an idiot, I am not enjoying myself, and he is ruining this board for a large portion of people. Keep your questions about freedom or morality for issues such as war or Government. This is a message board.

Keep up the good work mods. I know you're in a difficult situation but you're handling it correctly.

it takes 2 to tango

anyway

give me my stuff back and change my status thing and put me on a 1 week trial period

if in that week im a prick you can ban me with my permission without even contacting peter

on the other hand if im feelin generous and am well behaved i promise to maintain that behaviour tll i get board with this board and move on

So DEAL OR NO DEAL

well see you after the break

No thanks. You have proved you cannot be an adult on this message board. You will not regain your signature, avatar or PM status, however much you beg, as you abused your position of having them in the first place. This is not up for discussion gaz. I tried to do a 'deal' with you via PM (as shown in the other thread) however you refused to co-operate. You make your bed, you lie in it. Deal with it.

so i will never gt my avatar sig or stats back


and whos the childish one now eh???

Nope. If you acted like a normal human being in the first place. This would not have happened. Like I said. This isn't up for discussion. Your new status is permanent. Think about that.


Still you, it would appear. Never mind. Some things don't change.

some things shouldnt have to change................

anyway ill just make a new account lol

thatll take all of 3 seconds

Do you really think we won't recognise you? First you would have to grow up enought to learn to spell and write proper English.

If you can do that, and if you can act like a reasonable human being for a week - you wouldn't have had these recent problems.

Kathleen

I've been following this controversy for a few weeks and I'd like to say the mods here have shown admirable restraint. Good job guys, where I mod I would've banned the kid in seconds. Keep up the good work and thanks for the effort.

Adrian

after thinkin abou this

im not goin to make a new account cos thats what youd want

and as forthe spellin

no actually just press the ignore button if you dont like me and are so clever

kev supposedly pressed it about a week ago now but he still replies to my posts cos he loves me that much.

This is such a good example.
Thread went only about how something its being dealt with, doesnt matter could've been a different one


Gaz posts
Kev replies
Gaz replies
Katleen replies
Gaz replies
Normall Ice would've already replied
And then Gaz would reply again

Instead of 1 anoying off-topic (well 2 if you count Ice his earlier) post there would be at least 7 anoying post of wich 4 are from different person and only giving the chance to reply.... AGAIN



That's how all threads are ruined!

You forgot the part where TD2005 complains about people replying and replies himself.

And you really should stop including me in your assumptions, seeing that you've got nothing to back your ideas up with. You insisting that you know better is getting old really fast. The moderators here know what they're doing and they're doing the right thing. This is not your board, and you've made your opinion clear. Now stop adding it to every thread and ruining them that way, ok?


Ice

speak for yourself................

Well i just started to look at Gaz's postlist and almost on every so called anoying post he does, there is you, always you.... wich is way more anoying
Just quoting themnow and putting them in a word file, will take a while though because lots of examples to back it up.


Ironic?

Which was exactly the point. As long as he would keep posting crap, I would post crap about him.

Don't bother. You won't find any posts by me about Gaz after I said I'd ignore him. Unlike you, who says everyone should stop answering him, but still you keep answering every single thread about him and pushing your views, which everyone already knows and have decided to pass.

Nope. I posted my opinion once. That's enough. You've posted yours about a dozen times in a single thread. That's stupid.

Ice

and yet its still going on, give it a rest

see and i havent caused any trouble

Lol, how many times did you posted your opinion to and against Gaz??
still working on the quotes thing, already 6 word pages full.

If you try to be a smart-ass, do it good, you making yourself unreliable

Read my post above. If you understand what you read, it should be very clear. And again, I'd like to point out that you're doing exactly what you critisize others about.

Ice

Yes and your doing the exact same also, damn your strange.
You tell me not to repeat my opinion constantly, while you constantly do the same.
And yes I read your post, I know your reason, geuss what my reason is? Am I anoying yet?
Same goes up for doing exactly where I critize other about, WHY do you think I continue doing it??? Am I anoying?
Let me tell you one think, I will continue doing it (like you - understand it now????)