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Walleris 02-27-2018 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1235013)
That doesn't make any sense. If you tour an area every 5 years your current demand is absolutely based on when you were there last.

That's true in theory, but in reality Bon Jovi have not historically toured there every 5 years, more like every 2-3 years. They toured most of the same places in 2000, 2001, 2003, 2006, 2008, 2011, and 2013. That's quite a saturation. Naturally, by 2013 there was quite a fatigue in the EU market, especially if you're trying to fill-in stadiums.

Now if we assume that they're not touring Europe in 2018 (safe assumption), then there would be at least 6 year break from the previous tour.

As bad as Jon is live I expect the demand to be higher than 2013 by masses. In terms of demand, time is usually kind for inactive legends. Perhaps not drastically, I'd guess back to 2008-2011 levels.

manarosi 02-27-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1235037)
That's true in theory, but in reality Bon Jovi have not historically toured there every 5 years, more like every 2-3 years. They toured most of the same places in 2000, 2001, 2003, 2006, 2008, 2011, and 2013. That's quite a saturation. Naturally, by 2013 there was quite a fatigue in the EU market, especially if you're trying to fill-in stadiums.

Now if we assume that they're doing touring Europe in 2018 (safe assumption), then there would be at least 6 year break from the previous tour.

As bad as Jon is live I expect the demand to be higher than 2013 by masses. In terms of demand, time is usually kind for inactive legends. Perhaps not drastically, I'd guess back to 2008-2011 levels.

strangely i agree with you :D:D those who don't follow the band but are casual fans (here in italy those are 95% of the crowd at concerts) don't even know about the state of jon's vocals, so they're definitely going to buy it. What i'm worried about is that the last song heard here on the radio was maybe superman tonight?? or maybe even hand, so the setlists have to be full of "old" songs, not exactly the ideal situation for jon..maybe that's why they are waiting so long, hoping for some kind of jon's throat rebirth :confused:

bonjovi90 02-27-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by manarosi (Post 1235038)
strangely i agree with you :D:D those who don't follow the band but are casual fans (here in italy those are 95% of the crowd at concerts) don't even know about the state of jon's vocals, so they're definitely going to buy it. What i'm worried about is that the last song heard here on the radio was maybe superman tonight?? or maybe even hand, so the setlists have to be full of "old" songs, not exactly the ideal situation for jon..maybe that's why they are waiting so long, hoping for some kind of jon's throat rebirth :confused:

Both Walleris and you are making good points. What I'm more worried about is, as you said, the state of Jon's vocals. If Jon progresses to sound as horrific as he does these days, a great amount of casuals won't go again after the next tour. So they essentially might have one good European run left in them if they can get a reasonably strong single on the radio.

liljovi93 02-27-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1235037)
That's true in theory, but in reality Bon Jovi have not historically toured there every 5 years, more like every 2-3 years. They toured most of the same places in 2000, 2001, 2003, 2006, 2008, 2011, and 2013. That's quite a saturation. Naturally, by 2013 there was quite a fatigue in the EU market, especially if you're trying to fill-in stadiums.

Now if we assume that they're doing touring Europe in 2018 (safe assumption), then there would be at least 6 year break from the previous tour.

As bad as Jon is live I expect the demand to be higher than 2013 by masses. In terms of demand, time is usually kind for inactive legends. Perhaps not drastically, I'd guess back to 2008-2011 levels.

Won't be touring in Europe in 2018. Confirmed by JBJ last night.

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Walleris 02-27-2018 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1235043)
Won't be touring in Europe in 2018. Confirmed by JBJ last night.

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Obviously. I skipped the word "not", my bad.

bonjovi90 02-28-2018 02:40 PM

Over one year in the making - get ready to rock with our newest project!


A film made by Damned TV and me. As always, it was fantastic to work with him as his skills are so extraordinary and motivating.
Special thanks also go to DonWaldone for the live montage of Fields of Fire!

25 years after their legendary comeback tour, we have decided to celebrate that great album with a live compilation. This video has been over one year in the making and is meant for fans to enjoy that era - nothing more, nothing less!

--- Intro
01. I Believe (Milton Keynes 1993)
02. Keep the Faith (Stockholm 1993)
03. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead (Nuremberg 1993)
04. In These Arms (Tampa 1993)
--- I Can't Help Falling in Love with You (Milton Keynes 1993)
05. Bed of Roses (Milton Keynes 1993)
06. If I Was Your Mother (Quebec 1993)
--- Piano Solo (Wembley 1995)
07. Dry County (Wembley 1995)
08. Fear (Frankfurt 1993)
09. I Want You (acoustic) (Nashua 1993)
10. Blame it On the Love of Rock & Roll (Yokohama 1993)
11. Little Bit of Soul (NYC 1992)

12. Fields of Fire (NYC 1992)
13. Miss Fourth of July (Borgata 2004)
14. In These Arms (acoustic) (Yokohama 2003)
15. Radio Saved My Life Tonight (Columbus 2005)
16. Keep the Faith (Giants 2001)
--- The Sole Truth (Outro)

kleman 02-28-2018 02:51 PM

That's f****awesome! You guys are made a fantastic job! :cool:

Burlhouse 02-28-2018 03:16 PM

Ah my favourite album, so thank you so much for your work on this wonderful compilation!


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steel_horse75 02-28-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1235175)
Over one year in the making - get ready to rock with our newest project!

Bon Jovi - Keep The Faith (Live 25th Anniversary Edition) - YouTube

A film made by Damned TV and me. As always, it was fantastic to work with him as his skills are so extraordinary and motivating.
Special thanks also go to DonWaldone for the live montage of Fields of Fire!

25 years after their legendary comeback tour, we have decided to celebrate that great album with a live compilation. This video has been over one year in the making and is meant for fans to enjoy that era - nothing more, nothing less!

--- Intro
01. I Believe (Milton Keynes 1993)
02. Keep the Faith (Stockholm 1993)
03. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead (Nuremberg 1993)
04. In These Arms (Tampa 1993)
--- I Can't Help Falling in Love with You (Milton Keynes 1993)
05. Bed of Roses (Milton Keynes 1993)
06. If I Was Your Mother (Quebec 1993)
--- Piano Solo (Wembley 1995)
07. Dry County (Wembley 1995)
08. Fear (Frankfurt 1993)
09. I Want You (acoustic) (Nashua 1993)
10. Blame it On the Love of Rock & Roll (Yokohama 1993)
11. Little Bit of Soul (NYC 1992)

12. Fields of Fire (NYC 1992)
13. Miss Fourth of July (Borgata 2004)
14. In These Arms (acoustic) (Yokohama 2003)
15. Radio Saved My Life Tonight (Columbus 2005)
16. Keep the Faith (Giants 2001)
--- The Sole Truth (Outro)

Superb work..

Captmorgs 02-28-2018 07:13 PM

Frickin’ awesome! Is Miss Fourth of July from the KTF era? I had forgotten that.


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