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Thierry 08-27-2011 02:45 PM

Where is this performance of Always recorded (it's in the original key):


schlochty 08-28-2011 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1072340)
Where is this performance of Always recorded (it's in the original key):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBVm_...eature=related

No idea, sorry.

On a different note: every time I hear a performance like this one, I just feel like punching Jon in the face for picking up his stupid smoking habit in the first place.

Kathleen 08-28-2011 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1072340)
Where is this performance of Always recorded (it's in the original key):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBVm_...eature=related

Here you go: It was recorded on 1994-12-06

It was on the late night Leno show and it was aired sometime in January of 1995.

Bill23 08-31-2011 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by schlochty (Post 1072485)
No idea, sorry.

On a different note: every time I hear a performance like this one, I just feel like punching Jon in the face for picking up his stupid smoking habit in the first place.

Well- it was 15+ years ago too. I'm sure he was smoking (something...LOL) back then. Time moves on, that'll change voices too. At any rate, great performance.

TwinFan 08-31-2011 04:00 AM

I think the song has WAAAY more power in its original key rather than the one they play it live.

nrm123 09-01-2011 09:31 PM

just a test fro my HD camera, Intro for Hey God, Something to believe in and Sweet child o mine solo. not the best performance but i was only testing.

linnea.cfc32_jovibandana 09-01-2011 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill23 (Post 1072739)
Well- it was 15+ years ago too. I'm sure he was smoking (something...LOL) back then. Time moves on, that'll change voices too. At any rate, great performance.


Very good vocals indeed. Just feels very weird when you get to the bit where the solo is supposed to be and its not there...

Lampinen 09-02-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by linnea.cfc32_jovibandana (Post 1072890)
Very good vocals indeed. Just feels very weird when you get to the bit where the solo is supposed to be and its not there...

I find it strange how you all praise this performance, when there are a number of notes he doesn't reach and in the end he doesn't even try to sing them anymore. Good tone, as it always was back then, but definitely not his brightest moment.

Rdkopper 09-03-2011 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lampinen (Post 1072908)
I find it strange how you all praise this performance, when there are a number of notes he doesn't reach and in the end he doesn't even try to sing them anymore. Good tone, as it always was back then, but definitely not his brightest moment.

It's a different voice with a smoother tone. Even though he doesn't hit certain notes, he also doesn't sound like a cat in heat.

Alhough Jon had a great voice back then, it wasn't natural. After watching him struggle, you can see why his voice is where it is now 15+ years later. Smoking may be a factor but not the main cause.

Most rock stars lose it later on b/c most aren't natural singers. Compared to others, we actually have it good with Jons voice. I saw Whitesnake last week..... Forget it..... All I was thinking was, thank goodness for Jons voice.

the icebox 09-03-2011 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1072993)
It's a different voice with a smoother tone. Even though he doesn't hit certain notes, he also doesn't sound like a cat in heat.

Alhough Jon had a great voice back then, it wasn't natural. After watching him struggle, you can see why his voice is where it is now 15+ years later. Smoking may be a factor but not the main cause.

Most rock stars lose it later on b/c most aren't natural singers. Compared to others, we actually have it good with Jons voice. I saw Whitesnake last week..... Forget it..... All I was thinking was, thank goodness for Jons voice.

i heard that david's voice isn't good anymore,i know a lot of rockstars that lose it but there are some that are great

Rdkopper 09-03-2011 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by the icebox (Post 1072994)
i heard that david's voice isn't good anymore,i know a lot of rockstars that lose it but there are some that are great

David is also 60. But Vince, Axl to name a few are worse off than Jon.

But the obvious one is Steven Tyler who's voice is more natural and he def still has it.

But age is a main factor in itself.
The example I always give to people is, if your talking to someone on the phone, you can generally tell what age group they are in based on their voice. That's obviously because voices change with age. Jon at 50 is not going to sound like Jon at 33 when he sings Always. He is a trained singing who had an amazing tone in his youth. He lost that tone and struggles more.

I don't blame Jon for his voice issue, I blame him for writing these simple songs around his voice. He should go back to writing great music, belt them out in the studio, then worry about how he's going to perform them live later.

I'd rather get a great album with a so/so tour vocally, then him being able to sing simple new songs.

Captmorgs 09-03-2011 07:55 AM

Very nice Lie To Me. High quality stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGMvS-Ku40kg

schlochty 09-04-2011 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1072995)
David is also 60. But Vince, Axl to name a few are worse off than Jon.

I don't blame Jon for his voice issue, I blame him for writing these simple songs around his voice. He should go back to writing great music, belt them out in the studio, then worry about how he's going to perform them live later.

I'd rather get a great album with a so/so tour vocally, then him being able to sing simple new songs.

Firstly, I agree with the fact that those people you named are worse off than Jon. However, please take into consideration that Jon, unlike many of his peers, is VERY clever when it comes to hiding his vocal shortcomings.

Secondly, why would anyone record and release a song knowing perfectly well they won't be able to do it justice in a live environment? So Bon Jovi write, record and release a bunch of kickass songs with very demanding, killer vocals. People like it and buy tickets to a live show whishing to hear those song live. The band perform the songs, but thousands of people are majorly disappointed because Jon cannot possibly do the songs any justice vocally. Disappointed customers aren't exactly very likely to come back and buy tickets for the next show or tour, are they? How can you blame Jon for not deliberately shooting himself in the foot?

Bleedingguitar 09-04-2011 12:09 PM

^^If they were being brutally honest with themselves then Richie and Jon should share lead vocals 50-50, both live and in studio. He could sing the ones that Jon can't do justice to. IMO it does not diminish Jon's importance because he is still the leader of the band and has a huge role in songwriting, and he will be playing guitar and backing vocals when not singing.

I know this will never happen but for a long time now I have been thinking it would be a good arrangement.

bonjovi821 09-05-2011 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleedingguitar (Post 1073052)
^^If they were being brutally honest with themselves then Richie and Jon should share lead vocals 50-50, both live and in studio. He could sing the ones that Jon can't do justice to. IMO it does not diminish Jon's importance because he is still the leader of the band and has a huge role in songwriting, and he will be playing guitar and backing vocals when not singing.

I know this will never happen but for a long time now I have been thinking it would be a good arrangement.

It would be an interesting arrangement. It works for KISS, anyway. It may not be exactly 50-50 but Paul and Gene switch off on quite a few songs. But I think way too many people would be disappointed with Jon not being center-stage 100% of the time...

gomora 09-05-2011 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1072993)
It's a different voice with a smoother tone. Even though he doesn't hit certain notes, he also doesn't sound like a cat in heat.

Alhough Jon had a great voice back then, it wasn't natural. After watching him struggle, you can see why his voice is where it is now 15+ years later. Smoking may be a factor but not the main cause.

Most rock stars lose it later on b/c most aren't natural singers. Compared to others, we actually have it good with Jons voice. I saw Whitesnake last week..... Forget it..... All I was thinking was, thank goodness for Jons voice.

Actually, Jon can sing naturally. It's that the stereotypical "rock" singing isn't the be all end all that a lot of people here are pretending it is. And going with that flow, like a lot of people did, has ruined his top.
When people aren't expecting the stupidities he did in the 80s (again, for worst offenders I'll refer to the falsetto that would come screamed out at the end of many old BJ songs), they may notice he has more nuance in many ways now than he ever did before. There are songs he can't reach yes, and there are songs that he sounds like he could give a **** if he ever sang again (LOAP for one, on those kinds of stuff he tends to sound like a 'cat in heat'). But what's left is far from 'simple'.
Now about writing simple songs, that's another matter.


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But I think way too many people would be disappointed with Jon not being center-stage 100% of the time...
Yes. Yes we would. Richie is an over-singer as far as I'm concerned.

Bleedingguitar 09-05-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gomora (Post 1073117)
Yes. Yes we would. Richie is an over-singer as far as I'm concerned.

?
Do you mean he is a backing singer or that he over cooks his singing?

nrm123 09-05-2011 08:41 PM

When We Were Beautiful Cover

The Rock 09-05-2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleedingguitar (Post 1073130)
?
Do you mean he is a backing singer or that he over cooks his singing?

I'm not the original poster but I presume he meant over-rated singer.

Lampinen 09-06-2011 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1073166)
I'm not the original poster but I presume he meant over-rated singer.

I presume he meant he belts out over the top (much like Sebastian Bach). That has been Richie's problem in the past, not so much in the last 13 years.

TwinFan 09-06-2011 03:53 AM


WDYG demo.

Bleedingguitar 09-06-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lampinen (Post 1073170)
I presume he meant he belts out over the top (much like Sebastian Bach). That has been Richie's problem in the past, not so much in the last 13 years.

I agree he does overdo it at times but for the most part he gets away with it because he sounds good. If most people (e.g.Jon) did that the result would be terrible.

Kev 09-06-2011 06:47 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQvvm...ayer_embedded]

Video Description and Uploaders Story:

Jam session with JBJ and some fans at the End-Of-Tour-Private Party that the Band had in Lisbon, the day before the last show of the tour.

This event was to celebrate the end of the "The Circle 2010-2011 world tour" (a massive 18 months long tour!) and was attended by the entire crew and band; special commemorative Slippery When Wet necklaces and medals have been given to the crew during the event.
Some fans (each one from a different European country) and a few brave Italians have been invited as well.

The guys from Italy have been invited because of the massive choreography that most Italian Fan Club organized in Udine, on July 17 (check out some of my videos of it). We've been lucky enough to represent Italian fans to this special event!

Max, man in charge of the entire choreography, President of BJCI (Bon Jovi Club Italy) and great friend, this one is for you!

The party was held in a theatre in Lisbon and lasted all night long with dinner, lotta drinks and live music with Bobby Bandiera, Hugh McDonalds and some other musicians.

As far as I remember that's the story behind this video:
...I was having a drink with Kurt, JB's guitar tech, when I heard "Max, Luca, Italian friends...come up on stage!"
Jon Bon Jovi was on stage, with Bobby, Hugh and Obie O'Brien (on the drums) and was calling some fans to sing "Gloria".
I left Kurt and jumped on stage, off course! We were 5 or 6, I guess, but as the song went on, everybody was on stage! I was actually the only one with a microphone close to me (Hugh's one) and started singing backing vocals to JB and Bobby, just like I do with as guitar player in my Bon Jovi Tribute Band (by the way: check us on You Tube and Facebook: Sex Sells Bon Jovi Tribute)

As a proof of that (especially for my keyboard player that believes I'm not a good singer!)...I included subtitles of my short chat with JBJ! Make sure to turn them on on the video

Bleedingguitar 09-06-2011 09:30 PM

wow Kev great video, what a privilege.

kety 09-10-2011 08:29 PM

I googled little bit and found Saturday Night Live show from 2007. I have seen only few parts from it.
How band got the name is funny :) I hope it is ok to put this link here
http://gorillavid.com/zq3hnqo72npe

kety 09-10-2011 08:32 PM

Kev, thank you fo the video :)

linnea.cfc32_jovibandana 09-13-2011 05:08 PM

Have been listenin to this all day for some reason,

TAALS/como yo nadie te ha amado from buenos aires 95.

Very passionate performance!


nrm123 09-13-2011 05:18 PM

just found this...first ever Bon Jovi show MSG 1983..not very good quality though...
http://www.geneshaw.com/rock-n-roll-...1983-g_245.jpg
full size image - http://www.geneshaw.com/rock-n-roll-gods-and-garage-band-kings/jon-bon-jovimadison-square-gardennyc-1983-g_245.jpg

faith1985 09-13-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by linnea.cfc32_jovibandana (Post 1073707)
Have been listenin to this all day for some reason,

TAALS/como yo nadie te ha amado from buenos aires 95.

Very passionate performance!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQgIg...eature=related

Wish I was born earlier....

linnea.cfc32_jovibandana 09-13-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1073709)
Wish I was born earlier....


Oh me too. I was 7 here...

nrm123 09-13-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by linnea.cfc32_jovibandana (Post 1073711)
Oh me too. I was 7 here...

7 is better than 1 lol

faith1985 09-13-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nrm123 (Post 1073713)
7 is better than 1 lol

I was 10 :-)

linnea.cfc32_jovibandana 09-13-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1073717)
I was 10 :-)


Lol well none of us were at that gig so I think its pretty much even when it comes to this haha. Regardless...epic performance!:D

faith1985 09-13-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by linnea.cfc32_jovibandana (Post 1073718)
Lol well none of us were at that gig so I think its pretty much even when it comes to this haha. Regardless...epic performance!:D

True! The first thing I will do when they invent a time machine is to go to a bj concert from the 90's ;)

linnea.cfc32_jovibandana 09-13-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1073719)
True! The first thing I will do when they invent a time machine is to go to a bj concert from the 90's ;)

I was thinkin that too. Milan 93 comes to mind.

Living_on_my_Hair 09-13-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by linnea.cfc32_jovibandana (Post 1073721)
I was thinkin that too. Milan 93 comes to mind.

I was at both, im freakin AWESOME.

Andi

faith1985 09-13-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by linnea.cfc32_jovibandana (Post 1073721)
I was thinkin that too. Milan 93 comes to mind.

Exactly my thoughts ;) plus Tampa '95, Hammersmith '90, Wembley '95, Milton Keynes '89 and '93.....

kety 09-13-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1073717)
I was 10 :-)

LOL I was 9 :) Sometimes I wish I was older :D I have missed soooo much.
I love Como yo nadie te ha amado. Amazing song

linnea.cfc32_jovibandana 09-13-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Living_on_my_Hair (Post 1073722)
I was at both, im freakin AWESOME.

Andi

U freakin liar andi :eek: lol.

nrm123 09-14-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1073719)
True! The first thing I will do when they invent a time machine is to go to a bj concert from the 90's ;)

i wish i was born in the late 60s/70s...then i could grow up with the good music, watch the likes of Bon Jovi, ACDC, Guns N Roses, Queen all grow...way better than the justin beiber crap on todays radios!


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